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Masoud Nabi If feel that in the book the conflict is usually external conflict(mainly) because he is stuck on Mars, he is fighting nature when he tries to survive.


Patrick S. There is internal conflict in the book because Mark is fighting for his sanity.


Edwin.Florez I agree.


Masoud Nabi true


Nicholas Moscati I disagree with Masoud in the sense of the book being represented by external conflict. It is completely internal conflict with (like Patrick stated) himself in the fight for his own sanity.


Papaphilly It is a combination of both. Mars is trying to kill Mark and he is trying to survive. Earth is trying to decide what to do if they should even go back and get him. The ship commander must decide what to do and that is an internal struggle along with Mark having to keep himself from despair.


Nicholas Moscati This book is going nowhere. It seems as though he will never overcome his internal conflict on Mars.


Papaphilly Nicholas wrote: "This book is going nowhere. It seems as though he will never overcome his internal conflict on Mars."

sounds like you are having a tough time with the book. Keep at it.


message 9: by CD (last edited Dec 14, 2015 04:44PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

CD Ummm, folks, this is not internal conflict!!!

The Martian is a straight up Man v Nature type story line.

An unusual treatment that makes it intriguing, but other than having to make the initial decision to survive, our 'Martian' is fighting natures inevitable attempt to kill him. Any, repeat any, indecision on the part of Mark will cost him unrecoverable assets. Any overarching appearance of struggling with sanity is miniscule and a simplistic momentary diversion. The only part of Mark's world that is a personal struggle is with Disco music. I feel his pain in this . .

The ground control and the returning shipmates are involved in Man v Man for political reasons and rules developed to prevent conflicts over decision making processes that would result in conflicts that would most likely kill the other astronauts. When they, 'the Martian's', fellow astronauts go a bit off the reservation, they are not having internal moral quandries, they in fact have made the decision for all but one of them to potentially die in order to save Mark. Pretty clear cut stuff.

The nature of the struggles in fact are so defined that the real surprises and story line lies in the suspense of the eventual outcome.


Papaphilly CD wrote: "Ummm, folks, this is not internal conflict!!!

The Martian is a straight up Man v Nature type story line.

An unusual treatment that makes it intriguing, but other than having to make the initial d..."


You have it half right. Every survival story including survivors at Auschwitz all tell of the will to live. The will to live through the worst is all about dealing with the internal. The fight of not giving up.


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