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message 1: by Isabella (new)

Isabella | 7 comments In a lot of romance/erotica books, the first time the heroine and her love interest have sex usually contain some dubcon elements. And of couse she always enjoys it.

I can't help but wonder, if any one has experienced being somewhat forcefully takken in the heat of the moment and enjoyed it, or if this is more like a porno for women (nice to fantasise about, but unlikely to be enjoyable in real life)?


message 2: by Melani (new)

Melani Dubcon in real life is called rape. If you are 100% enthusiastic and into the moment then YKINMK and you do you. BUT if you're being forcibly taken in the heat of the moment and it's not something you actually want, it's rape.

I'm not really all that fond of the trope as it exists in romance novels either. I tolerate it, but it's not my favorite.


message 3: by Isabella (last edited Dec 08, 2015 01:11PM) (new)

Isabella | 7 comments Exactly! Whenever something like that happens in romance novels, I lose something for the heroin ( and her love interest is suddenly not dreamy anymore). But since it happens in sooo many romance novels, I was starting to wonder, whether or not a lot of people were into this, or if I belong to the minority who doesn't see the appeal - i.e. Fifty shades of Grey. I do not like those books.


message 4: by Peggy (new)

Peggy Cawley (RosieDerivator) | 4 comments The only time something like this is done/ok (in my book, I'm obviously not an authority) is a situation called "consensual-nonconsent." It's a type of BDSM play where "NO" is communicated to not necessarily mean "NO," there's an open ended "come take me whenever/whereever" agreement, etc. It's usually a communicated "rape" fantasy... but again, this is with ALOT of pre-communication and agreement and there are always safe words. My assumption is that this is the type of fantasy that authors are playing into, without actually knowing what they're talking about... ALA Fifty Shades of Grey. I think your "porno" description is dead on.


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