Allegiant question

I hated the ending it was the worst ending of any book I have read

I was a huge fan of Divergent, kinda liked Insurgent, but Allegiant... I didn't like it. And the fact that we suddenly had Four's POV made it obvious to me that she was going to die. It seemed like her death was for shock value, that Veronica Roth couldn't find another ending that wasn't too boring.

To me, it is a matter of HOW SHE SHOULD HAVE died. I think that how she died was very vague and when it is hard to explain it to my friends. I think, in terms of writing, that it would have improved the Tobias had accidently shot her or something along those lines, because then Tobias would have known how Tris felt when she shot Will, and it would have been a perfect way to wrap up the book. (Of course, I would have wanted to kill Tobias!)

For me it wasn't a matter of being a SHOULD she have died. Because she often felt so reckless regardless of what and HOW Roth tried to say that Tris was learning and growing throughout the series. I will admit there were some moments that I saw that. But more times than not I felt she was totally reckless and would have an early demise at some point anyway.

I think the fact that Tris died proves that Tris is not invincible and she is only human, its certainly not an ending I expected, and I still don't really know what to think of it. Like Laura I both like and hate the ending. I hate that Tris had to die, but I like how human it makes her.

No, I hated the ending. I hated the WAY Tris died, I hated the fact that whether or not her mother was alive was not explained. I hated that David basically received no punishment other than losing his memory? That was stupid, as he was still an elected official at the end of the book anyway. I disliked how Peter basically didn't change after the serum. All we know is that he was no longer killing people. But then he wouldn't really need to kill people in a peaceful world so we have no way of knowing whether he actually changed. Tris should not have died, she was arguably the only interesting character and as a reader I invested time into seeing her succeed. Basically, she performed a brave, heroic, act all 3 books. What would have been wrong with actually punishing David, and letting her live in peace with Tobias? She didn't need to be a martyr. Her mother and father had already died. It's not like the reader would have been tricked into thinking everything was fine at the end had she lived.

Am i the only one that smiled when Tris died or...?

I hate the ending of Allegiant. It was very sad.

Sometimes I feel like I was the only one who liked this book as well as the ending. Allegiant was a well rounded novel which surprised me greatly with what happened to Tris. It wasn't about being fair and that's what makes it good. It had a realistic sense to it. The happily ever after is always so predictable and overused, so it was nice to experience something else for a change. I loved Tris as a character and I was bothered and initially upset by her death but looking back on the book and the series, it was both fitting and unexpected.

Sandy wrote: "I dont think that Tris should have died, it had me thinking about if it was fair"

I think you should change the name of this discussion because that is a huge spoiler in the title.

I'm neutral on the subject as to whether Tris should have died or not, but she should most definitely not have died in the horribly contrived way she did. If she simply had died from the "death serum" (plain old poison gas would have been less straining on our disbelief) that would have been better, as it would still have shown she was not superhuman, while surviving the death serum subverts the message of equality that ran through the course of the book, while getting sit right afterwards is, to quote another reviewer "giving the middle finger to readers everywhere."

I hated that Tris died. I didn't see it coming - I thought it would be Four - but(after I dried my eyes)I was ok with it. After all, their lives were fraught with danger & people died all the time. Why not Tris? She was often reckless. I wanted them to ride off into the sunset together but really ... that was never going to happen.

I'm sorry to say this, but I thought that the story sort of needed her to die. It was such an unbelievable twist as it had caught us in surprise, however that was what made the twist remarkable. The story had needed to end with some sort of closure. It was great to read a POV of a person that always attempts to be so brave. However it sort of seemed like she was carelessly living without any consequences. She was pretty reckless at the most part. Tris had escaped death SO MANY times that it was unbelievable to the point where I had felt like the story was hinting that it will eventually all come to an end. However her death had shown that she is human even though she had seemed invincible.

It was an ending that struck a nerve....but the impossible girl could be defeated...so it was quite believable. I think it was a good step in showing Tris to be human. I liked and hated the ending.

Sandy wrote: "I dont think that Tris should have died, it had me thinking about if it was fair"

That's why I liked it. It's NOT fair. That's the point. There is no fairness in death. Tris shouldn't have died, from a moral standpoint. But from a writing standpoint, that's what makes it great.

I dont think she should die. is not fare for anyone. is the only thing in the book that im not agreet with