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Name:David P.Favorite Books: The Martian Chronicles, Snow Crash, & The Lovely Bones.
Favorite Genres: SF of course, but cyber-punk, suspense/thriller, horror, fiction in general.
Favorite TV shows: Dexter, Cowboy Bebop, & Home Movies.
Favorite Movies: Big Trouble in Little China, Oldboy, Castle in the Sky & Open Range.
Favorite Food: Kettle corn & stir fry.
Day Job: Security Guard (don't call me Paul Blart).
Hobbies: Video games, reading, writing, volunteering at Cinefamily, hiking, & trying new things.
Other: Married, live in L.A. and hate it. Will pick up a book or TV show at the slightest recommendation. Love Halloween and would love to hear about any local indie haunted houses happening as my fave (Sherwood Haunt) is closed this year.
And I like to talk. A Lot.
Hi everyone! My mind always goes blank when I'm asked my favourite X but here goes ... (oh, you noticed that little 'u' in favourite? Yes, I'm in the UK!)Name: Jemima Pett
Favorite Books: Anne McCaffrey's Crystal Singer series, her Brain ships series, and the Pern series, loads of scifi/fantasy that isn't really SO, like Fred Pohl, John Brunner, Fritz Lieber, although I guess Poul Anderson is... I read a lot of Heinlein, but not sure I'd go back to it now... and I haven't read any scifi tv/movie tie-in books, although I do own the Star Trek Encyclopedia :)
Favorite Genres: when I'm not reading scifi, spec fic, or fantasy, I'm often found reading crime, steampunk and middle Grade books (esp. historical and time travel). I'll do ecopunk as well. And Weird.
Favorite TV shows: I loved Star Trek and still can go for TNG reruns (its really funny in German!) and adored DS9 the first time round and couldn't stand the reruns! I grew up on Dr Who, adored Chris Eccleston and haven't got into the later ones.
Favorite Movies: To confuse you: Those Magnificent Men in the Flying Machines, Local Hero, 2001 and for cheese, Independence Day :)
Favorite Food: veggie curry or anything with cheese. Toasted cheese sandwiches especially.
Day Job: (cough) author. Actually, no, daytime job is publisher.
Hobbies: spare time job, author... also gardening, birdwatching, and skygazing, day or night.
Other: I went to Svalbard for the total eclipse in March 2015. It was seriously awesome, in the real sense of the word. Get yourself on the path of totality for the eclipse in the USA August 2017. Plan it now!
I'm also a Mod on the Great Middle Grade Reads group, so if anyone also is into kids books (esp kids scifi) come and chat there.
Jemima wrote: "Hi everyone! My mind always goes blank when I'm asked my favourite X but here goes ... (oh, you noticed that little 'u' in favourite? Yes, I'm in the UK!)Name: Jemima Pett
Favo..."
I loved Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines but haven't seen it in years. Saw it at a drive-in with my family when it first came out.
I really love early aviation stuff, as well as space stuff. It's all the romance of flight, after all :)
David wrote: "Favorite Genres: SF of course, but cyber-punk,..."Welcome David! Cyberpunk, eh? Not quite steampunk, but I'll take it :-)
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Jemima said: "...Favorite TV shows: I loved Star Trek and still can go for TNG reruns (its really funny in German!) and adored DS9 the first time round and couldn't stand the reruns! I grew up on Dr Who, adored Chris Eccleston and haven't got into the later ones..."
Welcome Jemima! You sound like my daughter.
Jemima wrote: "I really love early aviation stuff, as well as space stuff. It's all the romance of flight, after all :)"Indeed. I would welcome more WWI air war stuff on TV, even if it is mostly CGI.
Jemima wrote: "I really love early aviation stuff, as well as space stuff. It's all the romance of flight, after all :)"Agreed. That's why I love nevil Shute's books. He talks about real aeroplanes, but if he used spaceships his books would be classic SF.
R. wrote: "Jemima wrote: "I really love early aviation stuff, as well as space stuff. It's all the romance of flight, after all :)"Agreed. That's why I love nevil Shute's books. He talks about real aeropla..."
Oh, boy - Neville Shute <3
Jemima wrote: "R. wrote: "Jemima wrote: "I really love early aviation stuff, as well as space stuff. It's all the romance of flight, after all :)"Agreed. That's why I love nevil Shute's books. He talks about r..."
Oh good, another Shute fan! My father worked on the airfield at Farnborough, and there was a distinct similarity between his lab and Theodore Honey's in the movie.
Name: Micah R. SiskFavorite Books: Hyperion, Dune, All of PKD (he didn't do space opera, though), Revelation Space series, Culture series, much of Peter F. Hamilton
Favorite Genres: SF of most any kind (no zombies, vampires, werewolves, supernatural or super hero stuff)
Favorite TV shows: Uh...mostly Brit comedy (Peep Show, The Office, Vicar of Dibley, Alan Partridge, and old Python related standards)
Favorite Movies: 2001, Clockwork Orange, and a bunch of old non-SF (I'm very picky on my SF movies and TV)
Favorite Food: Japanese, Thai, Indian (Those are the top 3, depends on the day which one's favorite), Vietnamese, Tex-Mex/Salvadoran/Spanish...pizza (for my sins)
Day Job: Application Systems Engineer (glorified database analyst)
Hobbies: Building electronic music synthesizers, playing/composing/recording electronic music (although I've just about give all this up for writing)
Other: Sex, sex, sex...where were we? Oh, I wrote a space opera once. It will not be published. Not in anywhere near its current form. Huge job to re-write it. Probably will never happen.
Well, OK:Name: Jorg
Favorite Books: Reynolds, Banks, McAuley, Stross, Sterling, Nagata
Favorite Genres: New Baroque Space Opera, Hard Science Fiction
Favorite TV shows: Firefly, lots of Scandinavian noir
Favorite Movies: Europa Report, but mostly non-SF
Favorite Food: Thai, sushi, beer
Day Job: System/network admin
Hobbies: Too many--from music to medieval history via astrophysics and evolutionary biology, climate physics, and multivariate statistical methods
Other: see above. I spend my spare time wandering about medieval sites and writing statistical software and playing with astrophysical software packages and listening to jazz and northern European trad music.
Jorg wrote: "Well, OK:Name: Jorg
Favorite Books: Reynolds, Banks, McAuley, Stross, Sterling, Nagata
Favorite Genres: New Baroque Space Opera, Hard Science Fiction
Favorite TV shows: Firefly, lots of Scandi..."
Any specific style of jazz or just jazz in general.
Micah wrote: "Other: Sex, sex, sex...where were we? Oh, I wrote a space opera once. It will not be published. Not in anywhere near its current form. Huge job to re-write it. Probably will never happen...."Welcome Micah! Hah! We've all got those scary first manuscripts lurking in our desk drawers, kinda like the God of Guilt in Douglas Adams' Hitchhiker series :-)
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Jorg wrote: "Favorite TV shows: Firefly...
Yay! Another Browncoat! [*fistbump*] Welcome Jorg!
"Any specific style of jazz or just jazz in general. "NOT smooth jazz. :)
Most of my favourites besides the old classics are European, and most live on ECM and ACT labels.
Anna wrote: "Welcome Micah! Hah! We've all got those scary first manuscripts lurking in our desk drawers..."Actually, I think it's a really, really good story. Full of big space battles, big science surprises, the Hero's journey, metaphysics, mythology, sibling rivalry, empire vs empire clashes, and hidden bigger threats.
The problem with it is...I went way over the top in my writing style. Way too melodramatic and High Fantasy style language. Ugh. New writer trying to sound important. I'm constantly thinking about revamping it...but it would be a BIG project. I think it's about 155,000 words (not counting the 50,000 I wrote in its follow-up story--takes place in the same time as the first book so not a prequel or a sequel but a . . . concurrquel? as in concurrent to the original story).
Name:EricFavorite Books:Dune, Starship Troopers, The Ethos Effect(anything by L.E. Modesitt jr. really)
Favorite Genres:Science Fiction (duh), Fantasy, Historical Fiction or Non-Fiction
Favorite TV shows:Star Trek, Firefly, New BSG, The Flash, Mad Men
Favorite Movies:Star Wars (IV V VI). Even numbered Star Trek movies. And umm...lots more.
Favorite Food:Pizza
Day Job:Waiter
Hobbies:Bird Watching, Bicycling, Camping, oh and READING!
Micah wrote: "...it would be a BIG project. I think it's about 155,000 words (not counting the 50,000 I wrote in its follow-up story--takes place in the same time as the first book so not a prequel or a sequel but a . . . concurrquel? ..."Hah! I've got FOUR of those sitting in my drawers. I've been rewriting and getting out the first batch which I broke into 5 books of between 175,000 - 350,000 books apiece. I write the really epic fantasy stuff (with a smattering of space opera .. hey ... my world). The trick is to print it out and go through it with a highlighter to flag all the stuff you like, dump it into plot cards, and then figure out what you can use. You probably have some really great cinematic moments you'll want to save, and then some truly awful stuff that you'll want to toss. From there, you can start filling in.
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Eric wrote: "Favorite Books ... anything by L.E.Modesitt Jr., really..."
Yay! Another Modesitt fan! I love his Haze novel. Some say it isn't his best, but the society he built always stuck with me vs. the evil corporations. Welcome to SOF.
Thanks Anna. You might want to try The Parafaith War and it's squeal The Ethos Effect. Much better than Haze in my opinion.
After a 14 year break from Sci-fi I think I'm hooked again.Name: John
Favorite Books: Thrawn Series, Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy
Favorite Genre: Non-Fiction, Sci-Fi
Favorite TV Shows: Big Bang Theory, Game of Thrones
Favorite Movies: Empire Strikes Back, Guardians of the Galaxy
Favorite Food: Thai & Sushi!
Day Job: Ecologist
Hobbies: Cycling, Watching Rugby, Gaming, Travel.
Thanks for the group, here for tips on future reading.
Hello fellow opera-ers. My reading preference is entirely science fiction. I have trouble reading a grocery list if there isn't at least mention of a space battle off Gamma Four. Aisle nine, spices, baking soda, and imminent catastrophic depressurization. Confession time: I like the idea of Douglas Adams' books more than actually reading them.
The very definition of space opera screams my choice of reading.
TV: Firefly, Star Trek, BG Farscape, RD1, TWD, Forever, too many more to name (only 11500 characters left).
Authors: Peter F. Hamilton, James S.A. Corey, Niven, Bujold, Scalzi, Banks, Jack McDevitt, Dan Simmons, Hannu Rajaniemi, Neal Stephenson(which has always sounded more of a demand than a name), Stephen Baxter(sparingly), Richard K. Morgan, C. J. Cherryh, Allen Steele, Douglas Adams, Walter Jon Williams, but wait, that's not all you get...
My general rule when stalking the SF/Fantasy aisle is that if there's a sword, a crown or a throne on the front cover, you've lost me. All three and I will hunt you down.
Politics: Whoa. Did I just almost go there?
Films: Shakes The Clown, The ninth Configuration, Guardians, ST, SW, Serenity; man, pretty much all of them.
Glad to be here. Hope you are too. Cheers.
And as always, remember to copy your posts before posting, in case the system mysteriously turns your words to ether. :)
Kent wrote: "remember to copy your posts before posting, in case the system mysteriously turns your words to ether."
or use Lazarus add on. That one is for Firefox; it's also available for Chrome.
or use Lazarus add on. That one is for Firefox; it's also available for Chrome.
John wrote: "After a 14 year break from Sci-fi I think I'm hooked again...."Well welcome BACK John :-) I tend to rotate through favorite genres, even taking little detours into thrillers or romance or cozy mystery once in a while, but then it's always back to my two favorite biggies, epic fantasy (the more epic, the better) and a great, big galaxy-busting space opera :-) Once you get used to juggling all the plot twists and characters, it gets really hard to read a 'normal' book.
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Kent wrote: "...Confession time: I like the idea of Douglas Adams' books more than actually reading them..."
Welcome Kent! I enjoy Douglas Adams dry humor, but it's very '1970's British Sitcom' if you ask me. Funny, but after a while you want to get up and make a sandwich.
As for the stuff you stalk in the SF/Fantasy aisle ... yeah... [*smiles*]
"I enjoy Douglas Adams dry humor, but it's very '1970's British Sitcom' if you ask me. Funny, but after a while you want to get up and make a sandwich."Consider that he wrote for Monty Python, and it all makes sense.
OTOH, I can watch Monty Python for hours. Well, I *used to could've* :) Now I know all of them by heart, so they do not work as well.
John wrote: "After a 14 year break from Sci-fi I think I'm hooked again.Name: John
Favorite Books: Thrawn Series, Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy
Favorite Genre: Non-Fiction, Sci-Fi
Favorite TV Shows: Big..."
What got you hooked again?
Welcome, Jorg, John, Kent and Eric. Multivariate statistics as a hobby... okay.... Birdwatching, yes, climate physics, yes, ecologist yes... Sounds like a great bunch of people to get to know!
Name: Tim EastmanFavorite Books: Starship Troopers, Dreamcatcher, The Dark Tower series, The Hobbit, The Rings trilogy
Favorite Genres: Sci-fi, Fantasy, Horror, Political Thrillers
Favorite TV shows: Don't do too much TV
Favorite Movies: The Dark Knight, Law Abiding Citizen, The Rings trilogy, The Hobbit, The Hunger Games Trilogy
Favorite Food: Mexican, Chinese, Italian, and good old cheese burgers
Hobbies: Reading, Writing, Video Games, and watching movies
Tim wrote: "Favorite Books: Starship Troopers, Dreamcatcher, The Dark Tower series, The Hobbit, The Rings trilogy.."Welcome Tim! It sounds like you're in the right place :-)
Welcome Tim, Jorg, John, Kent and Eric. And the others I missed :(Oooohhh, cheeseburgers... and Shakes the Clown? Haven't thought of that film in ages. I think it's time for a movie night (after I add Haze to my reading list).
Jorg wrote: ""I enjoy Douglas Adams dry humor, but it's very '1970's British Sitcom' if you ask me. Funny, but after a while you want to get up and make a sandwich."Consider that he wrote for Monty Python, an..."
Anna wrote: "John wrote: "After a 14 year break from Sci-fi I think I'm hooked again...."
Well welcome BACK John :-) I tend to rotate through favorite genres, even taking little detours into thrillers or roman..."
Anna wrote: "John wrote: "After a 14 year break from Sci-fi I think I'm hooked again...."
Well welcome BACK John :-) I tend to rotate through favorite genres, even taking little detours into thrillers or roman..."
Thanks for the welcome!
Hey I am Jack,My favorite books are Star Wars books, Battlestar Galactica, Malazan Book of the fallen, Game of thrones
Genres, Fantasy, SF, Thriller, and historical fiction
Hobbies
Soccer, across Country, Track and Field, Applying to College (if you consider that a hobby considering it has taken me about all of my senior year so far lol,)
Writing, Board Game designing and reading.
Jack wrote: "Hey I am Jack,My favorite books are Star Wars books, Battlestar Galactica, Malazan Book of the fallen, Game of thrones
Genres, Fantasy, SF, Thriller, and historical fiction
Hobbies
Soccer, acr..."
Welcome Jack! Another BSG fan :-) Board game designing, eh? I've got a friend who does that. She uses us as guinea pigs :-)
A warm hello to all you Space Opera members my name is Rose and I live on the beautiful Oregon coast…..it was a gorgeous day today.Favorite Book: hmmm, that will be difficult because I have lots but my first and still favorite sci-fi is the RAMA series by Arthur C Clarke (Rama, Rama II, Garden of Rama, Return of Rama). I was introduced to this series in the 80’s and now am trying to find the audio version. I have the first book but the rest are UTL. I’ve never forgotten the thrill and intrigue Clarke offered me from the first word to the very last. After that I would have to say War of the Worlds multi cast audio with actors from Star Trek: Next Generation. I read (meaning listened) to this last year and it was fantastic. Two new sci-fi books The Warm Hello by Dylan Brody and The Truth Beyond the Sky by Andrew Crusoe top my lists this year. The Truth… would be a great teen book. Feel free to read my reviews of both.
Favorite Genre: History, Historical Fiction, “Space Operas,” Fantasy, Classic Literature call to me most often but on occasion I find others that peak my interest.
Favorite TV: Don’t have tv anymore but Star Trek (all) was always a hit. Lillie (a Masterpiece Theatre series on Lillie Langtry)
Favorite Movie: Star Wars, The Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Beauty & The Beast (Disney….oh, wasn’t there some kind of tv series on that-the first season was good), Ghost, DaVinci Code, Night at the Museum, Stigmata, Avengers, etc.
Day Job: Listening to and then fixing space aliens...multiple tentacle fractures are really a pain......hehehehe
Hobbies: Designing and sewing reproduction western and victorian clothing as well as other “fun” costumes for competition, local museum, stage, fashion shows and friends. Hiking, camping, canoeing, competition shooting, star gazing, writing, scrapbooking, painting, gardening......the list goes on and on....
Other: I only read with audiobooks as I just don’t have time to sit down with the written word; doing so has increased my reading from about one book a year to up to and over 100 books each year. Lovin’ it!
Freeman wrote: "Loved your post, you sound like a fascinating person. I agree with your take on "Rama". Fare well."Happy to meet you here in cyberland. Thank you. I just realized I think that The Return of Rama is actually Rama Revealed.....I must have been thinking of The Return of the JedI.
Powder River Rose wrote: "A warm hello to all you Space Opera members my name is Rose and I live on the beautiful Oregon coast…..it was a gorgeous day today...."Welcome Powder River Rose! Historical western/victorian costume? Are you into Steampunk? I used to sew costumes, though now I have no time :-(
Hi allMy name is Jim and I've been reading Science Fiction ever since I was a teenager (which is a lot longer ago than I care to remember). Back then, it was the likes of Clarke and Asimov that got me into the genre, but since then, I've been an avid reader of Niven, Pohl, Brin, Benford, McDevitt, Reynolds, Vinge and, more recently, William Gibson and Ann Leckie. However, Iain M Banks is my all time favourite (RIP). Also (although he's not really Space Opera) Terry Pratchett's (also RIP) Discworld novels.
Favourite films: Blade Runner and 2001: A Space Odyssey (joint first), but also Alien, Interstellar, Twelve Monkeys... far too many to mention, to be honest. If it's set in Space or involves Time Travel, I'm all over it.
Books I'd love to see made into a film: Gibson's Neuromancer, Joe Haldeman's Forever War, Niven's Mote In God's Eye, any Iain M Banks SF.
Favourite TV: The usual suspects - BSG, Farscape, Firefly, Babylon 5, Star Trek, but I also like conspiracy type thriller series - Edge Of Darkness and State Of Play. Life On Mars as well (although perhaps I should point out that it's the original UK versions of these).
Day job: Retired, but used to teach English and Media at a secondary school (13-18).
Hobbies: Reading (using an e-reader), football (as in soccer) and writing novels (but that's all I'm going to say about that here!)
So do you have a particular team you support. As to your list of authors given your location I was suprised not to see Michael Moorcock on that list.
Team - Tottenham Hotspur (I was born only 3/4 miles from the ground). As for Michael Moorcock - not really. I just can't get into fantasy at all and there's too much of it in his work for me.
I liked the Elric and Hawkmoon books myself, but couldn't get into the Jerry Cornelius series. Would like to try the Martian trilogy he wrote eons ago and I note it is back in print. Indigo/Chapters has them on its website. At least your team is doing better than my pick when I started following UK soccer (I figured if I was going to follow it, back in the day when it was Division 1, 2, 3 and 4, I might as well have a favourite). Forest was great once but they have fallen on hard times since.
James wrote: "I've been reading Science Fiction ever since I was a teenager (which is a lot longer ago than I care to remember). Back then, it was the likes of Clarke and Asimov that g..."Welcome James! I loved Blade Runner, especially the end when the replicant makes the 'Tears in the Rain' speech.
Hi. I'm Cari Silverwood. A pen name though. I mostly write erotic and kinky stories. Hit the NY Times Bestseller list via a collection of books, which is a very sideways method to do it. So now I have a pretty tagline for books that I don't really think of as real.
Favorite Books: I've read so many genres and have a lot of favorites. China Mieville's Un Lun Dun. Robert Heinlein's Glory Road. Terry Pratchett's - most of them. Jacqueline Carey's Kushiel's Dart series. Musashi. Phillip Reeve's Mortal Engines series. Iain M Banks. Use of Weapons and some others of his. Jim Butcher's The Aeronaut's Windlass.
Favorite Genres: Epic fantasy and steampunk now. Scifi used to be.
Favorite TV shows: Firefly. Game of Thrones. The Walking Dead. Vikings. Red Dwarf.
Favorite Movies: Serenity. Lord of the Rings series. Lonesome Dove. Dogma.
Favorite Food: Chocolate ;)
Day Job: Writing I guess. Though I have a supersecret quasi-medical professional job that I'm 99 percent retired from. Because I write dark erotic stories I don't reveal it. I'm a bit like Batman in a way :)
Hobbies: Gym, swimming. writing used to be. Reading again, soon, I hope.
Other: I'm a bit of fish out of water in most goodreads groups as writing shut down my 2 to 3 book a week reading habit.
If I read anything now it's fantasy and steampunk or books author friends ask me to review (I don't make a habit of that though) I go way back with space opera and scifi. EE Doc Smith. Robert Heinlein. The Dune series was an absolute favorite. I haven't read hard scifi for so long I forget who and what I read. Tau Zero was one. I don't find I enjoy it anymore. Edited as I remembered - Arthur C Clarke, & Asimov, of course. Read most of their books once upon a time.
I looked at your definition of space opera a few weeks ago, and mostly agree. To me it's melodrama in space where the rules of science can get tossed aside if the author so chooses. EE Doc Smith is space opera and he never paid much heed to the science. His books were fun, rollicking, full power to the laser cannons/ blasters/ whatever he made up, and damn the physics.
I joined this group after talking to Laz the Sailor who's a member. I've written a series that is what I call space opera but it's terribly erotic so I may get stoned.
Thank you. Sorry for the long post :P
Oh! And as above. Blade Runner is awesome. I read the book it's kinda based on long before the movie - Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep.
Actually Smith published in an article in Astounding entitled "Catastrophe" that explained how is Lensmen books were scientifically possible. Smith was a scientist by training having an earned PH.D. in chemistry.
I havent read them for thirty years. I seem to recall lensmen. How was that scientifically possible. Werent there paranormal elements? I also think saying all the super devastating weaponry was worked out using science would be stretching a long bow. Its akin to saying we can make gunpowder therefore we can destroy the sun.Do you have a link?
You made me go google. Yes, the lensman had telepathy and various mind merging and mind melding abilities. Proving all those abilities are scientifically possible is a little difficult. You might establish some core principles are possible but it's a huge leap to being a lensman. Having a Phd in chemistry doesn't make him able to create planet-obliterating technology. That doesn't detract from my enjoyment of his books. They were amazing for their time. I think I would still enjoy them today, though I can see from reviews that some find them stilted.I think I'm derailing this thread.
The "paranormal" capabilities were derived from the Lens that they wore. I haven't read the article in question, mainly because it is the only thing by Smith that has never been reprinted. Not surprising since outside of possibly Hubbard's original Dianetics articles I don't think any of Astounding's articles have been republished. The Spaced-Out Library might have had a copy of that issue but I never thought to check.
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