I feel like I am the only one who likes the ending.(SPOILER!!!)

[Lauren]

It was realistic for Tris to do what she did for Caleb; it wasn't necessary, for either her character development or the plot, for her to actually die doing it. That was stuck in there just because she had correctly accepted the possibility of dying and she had earned a powerful ending. It was an author choice instead of an organic plot choice - the plot didn't actually need her to die. That's a big reason for why so many people are annoyed by this ending - she didn't actually have to die. If she actually did have to die, if the story and the plot would not be able to work out the same way if she didn't, those people would have been fine with it. There would have been no other way. It would have been necessary. But this wasn't. It was arbitrary. :(

[Katelyn]

It would have been good for the plot if she would have went tin there and only had to face the serum and survive. That would have made a lot for developments in the plot.

[A]

*I'm quoting the following from the review*

The ending was poorly executed. Tris’s death did not make sense. She sacrifices her life on the notion to save her backstabbing brother’s life and to honour her parent’s sacrifice. See, I don’t find anything beautiful/symbolic/awesome here in fact I find the message given by Roth here to be very very disturbing. If your loved ones sacrifice their lives for you the best way to return them their sacrifice and be grateful to them is by living your own life happily. I would sacrifice my life to see you sacrifice your own in the future to “honour” me—said no parent ever. If Caleb had a chance to redeem himself why the hell did she take that opportunity from him only for him to live forever with the guilt of letting his sister sacrifice her life for him?
Her death was contrived. I found it hard to believe that David would kill the daughter of a lady he loved, even though he was only motivated to continue the experiment, he was not shown to be all bad and evil. Tris was trained properly during Dauntless initiation but then why couldn't she even think or try to disarm David who was on a wheel chair? Why in the first place does she even forget her own gun? How the hell did she survive the death serum which was believed to be fatal even to the GP? If Cara, Caleb, Tobias etc. could retrieve guns and protective suit for the suicide mission why didn't they ever think of getting a bullet-proof vest too? Tris wore one while she went on a mission to The Fringe and maybe with the help of Amar they could've got it. I don't understand how Cara, Caleb and Matthew survived the memory serum when everyone else in the Bureau became a victim of it when Tris released it. This is such a large plot hole that I can drive a car through it.

Please, I don’t want to hear the excuse that Roth has written whatever she wanted too and the ending was realistic and that I must get over it and blah blah. As a published author, Roth had some responsibilities towards her fans. Those who loved Allegiant will call her brave but I refuse to call her that. She was selfish to write a conclusion that “she” wanted to write. If she were a good writer, she would’ve taken the expectations of her fans into account and would’ve delivered a satisfying conclusion. She has written an awful book, ruined what could become an amazing series and is now sitting with millions of dollars in her pocket. Also, if I wanted to read something realistic I would’ve read newspaper or stuck to non-fiction instead of picking a sci-fi/dystopian book. This is not history, its fiction and it’s not bound to realism.

I don’t mind any kind of ending until unless it satisfies and brings justice to the story. I’m a fan The book thief and it had a sad ending, I loved Monsters of Men and it had a partially unresolved ending, I also loved Between shades of grey which had a bittersweet ending. If the ending alone has ruined the series for you, so be it. I fully understand that many readers have seen a lot of despair and failure in real life and they read fiction and relate to the characters. They root for their favourite characters to triumph so in a way they may find hope to fight their own battles. And of course, it pains to see everything crashing down with their heroes still struggling in the end.

[Jordan]

Ayesha wrote: "*I'm quoting the following from the review*

The ending was poorly executed. Tris’s death did not make sense. She sacrifices her life on the notion to save her backstabbing brother’s life and to ho..."

I totally get what you are saying, but as you said, she has to think about what would satisfy her readers, but she also does need to think what satisfies herself. A story is often thought of as someone's "baby" because they created it. This ending satisfied her, and brought her closure. She didn't fail all of her fans, because there are quite a few of us who liked the ending. There are a lot of posts on this discussion about how much some people loved it. So I know that it sucks and that you wanted to root for Tris, I did too, but I don't think that Veronica Roth should get all this hate. Because saying that you wish you never picked up the trilogy…. Well I don't think I would be able to say that because this trilogy was amazing.

[Lauren]

Well, I personally wish I hadn't bothered with the trilogy not because of the ending, but because the story direction she chose in Allegiant proved that she really didn't have this series planned out when she started and was just making it all up as she went along. I found it hard to buy into the premise in the first book but I went along with it because I believed she must have a great idea behind all of this nonsense. After all, what kind of author would build such a high-concept premise without knowing what the hell they were talking about? This kind of author, apparently. This isn't just my interpretation, either; she has admitted that she was pretty much playing it by ear book by book and she didn't know what was outside the city, why the people were here, what being divergent really meant. She scrambled for explanations for all of this only when it came down to writing this last book, which is something I would advise any writer to NEVER, EVER DO IN A MILLION YEARS. And I could even forgive the unforgivably lax story planning if she'd managed to come up with a backstory that actually made sense, but it didn't. It was preposterously bad and negated the whole story in the first two books and conjured up additional twists that poked more plot holes in the story. It ruined the story. I was convinced, after the brilliant cliffhanger in Insurgent, that yes, she knows that the concept for dividing people into factions and whatnot is a ridiculous way to live but there's a reason why it doesn't make sense because it turns out that's not the real reason they're here. They were sent here to become a better version of society but it all backfired now and the horrible irony is that they're just as bad as any other society that has ever lived. Brilliant! But then she wrote Allegiant and gave us an entirely different explanation, tossing the cliffhanger out the window by saying, "Oh, well, that wasn't actually true. Never mind!" She tries to play it off like this is part of the story. Maybe it's because I read a lot or because I write also and so I can cut through another writer's bullshit, but it's painfully obvious that she had one vague idea for the larger story when she wrote Insurgent and then dropped it in favor of this stupid genetic explanation that she decided to do instead. She had no idea what she was talking about all this time. I believed she knew what she was doing. I was duped. And so I feel like I wasted my time reading this series and believing in her story because she never had a story to begin with. She was just talking out of her ass and hoping we wouldn't notice. The worst part is, what she came up with in the end is SOOOO bad that you can actually tell just by reading it that she was making it up as she went along. And that's pretty damn bad.

I wouldn't have minded Tris dying if it had been executed well, and if it had occurred at the end of a properly thought out story. But knowing that Veronica just pulled this entire plot out of thin air with it having nothing whatsoever to do with the story laid out in the previous books, it makes the death even more ridiculous. It feels like she killed off the main character, the monumental game-changing moment of the series, at the end of a fake story.

[Keisi]

Totally disagree, killing the main character doesn't make the book special and more interesting. The only reason i still say i like the book is because the history is quite interesting, but there's no reason to like an ending which was really stupid. She made a big deal of the fact that Tris didn't want to die anymore when she sacrificed herself in erudite headquarters, but now she just: went to kill herself again -.- so yeah i think you should feel as you're the only one who liked the ending!!!

[Katlyn]

I liked the ending, but I would rather Four died then Tris.

[Fallen]

Jordan wrote: "Now, don't get me wrong. I love Tris and I definitely was crying my eyes out when she died. But I also think it was a very smart decision of Veronica Roth because no one kills off the main characte..."
She tried something newish. I have read a lot of books and this is the only series that ended like that.

[Katelyn]

♥Kate (Sunsplash) ♥ wrote: "I liked the ending, but I would rather Four died then Tris."

But I don't see how Veronica could have done that with the current plot.

[Emma]

Katelyn wrote: "♥Kate (Sunsplash) ♥ wrote: "I liked the ending, but I would rather Four died then Tris."

But I don't see how Veronica could have done that with the current plot."

I think it would have been believable if Tobias had died trying to stop his parents from destroying the city. In fact, him dying trying to stop them would have been a good catalyst for his mother deciding to stop fighting. It would have made a lot more sense than her saying, "Oh, okay I'll just stop trying to get the power that I have been fighting for almost my son's entire life, that caused me to abandon him in the first place, just because he asked nicely." His death could have actually accomplished something. It could have brought about the peace that him and Tris were supposedly fighting for. That could have prevented the Bureau from needing to send the memory serum. Him being "genetically damaged" and yet still sacrificing his life to achieve peace could have proven how wrong they were about GDs. That would have made a whole lot more sense than Tris' contrived death.

[Gisele]

you know i love Tris i really do! But she needed that ending because she is such a strong character and fought so hard and been through so much that she doesn't the 'running off into the sunset with Tobias' ending.(Even though I would love to see her happy like that.) She deserves a stinger more powerful ending than that,she had to die so she could finally be at peace. She's done all she cane and needs to do for the world, and helped it tremendously.

[Lauren]

In what world does a 16-year-old need to find peace in death? See, this is the problem with the death and looking at it as something Tris "earned" - it treats death as some sort of reward, some ultimate achievement. This ending only makes sense if you happen to view death as a triumph. Few people do.

[Allison]

I liked the ending. Although I did think it was predictable. Its just the kind of person Tris is she NEVER would have let Caleb go.

[Jordan]

Allison wrote: "I liked the ending. Although I did think it was predictable. Its just the kind of person Tris is she NEVER would have let Caleb go."

Yeah, I didn't think that she would let Caleb go either, but I didn't think that she would die.

[Laney]

tbh i hated that she died and i still do, and i know people said it was brave and stuff, but you don't have to kill of your main character to be brave, and i know people say we had it coming, but she could have not done it and surprised people even though she set it up so almost perfectly, and if you say it made the novel better im not sure how, because it wasn't refreshing, i was already half dead after uriah died, and it wasn't exactly refreshing with the whole dystopian theme and the corrupt government and the female protagonist and the love interest.

and there it is! The love interest, TOBIAS. I heard that Tris was going to die via divergent wiki (thanks alot) before i had even finished, so even through all the mardy sad terrible stuff that happened in allegiant i still read it, wanting to find out what happened to tris and how she died. As i read i knew se would die to like save the civilization, and stuff, like to get rid of the mix between GDs and GPs but i had always thought she would die in Tobias' arms. That she would die purely out of love, and that Tobias would be devistated and holding her and screaming and he would show that side that he kept hidden from everybody. But NO VERONICA ROTH DECIDED LETS HAVE TRIS DIE THEN HAVE TOBIAS SOMEWHERE ELSE WITH HIS PARENTS UNAWARE THAT THE ONLY PERSON THAT MATTERED TO HIM AND THAT HE LOVED DEARLY HAD DIED.

i will say it once more,
VERONICA ROTH I HHHHATEEECHUUUU.

ps i plan on writting an alternate ending and posting it onto my tumblr regardless of my terrible writting skills, as you can tell.

[Alice]

I hated it when I first read it, I cried and if I am really honest I didn't understand why Veronica Roth did it. But then I read her blog post about the death and the reasons why it happened and it started to make sense to me. I still wish she didn't do but I understand why she did it, and in a way I think it makes the book more realistic, I won't say better because I would probably be much happier if it didn't happen. But it was real and she was brave to make the decision to kill off a much loved character like Tris.

[Laura]

Honestly from reading the past 3 books you know Tris would never let her brother sacrifice himself. If he did then she would've been doing exactly what he did to her. She constantly struggled with selflessness in the trilogy, being one of the reasons she left abnegation for dauntless. She finally realizes that being selfless out of love is important and takes that opportunity, even if it means she won't come back. It's the most realistic ending she could've written. I personally loved it, even though my eyes are swollen. It was worth the read.

[Linda]

I liked the ending all be it sad :(.The thing with dystopian book series is that stuff has to go really bad before it can go really good again.

[Kristin]

I had so many issues with the first 3/4 of the book, that the ending redeemed it for me. I felt like it fit with the series, as opposed to so much of the rest of Allegiant. I honestly think that if we had been given a happy ending where Tris and Tobias lived happily ever after it wouldn't have quite seemed right. I think Tris sacrificing herself for her brother was completely in character for her. This is NOT a happy series, people. Roth's writing in the last few chapters was wonderful. Tobias' grief felt like my grief and I cried like a baby.

[Lauren]

Oh, if only there was any logical reason on God's green earth for the whole situation to even happen in the first place. If only Roth didn't make Tris survive the actual sacrifice to prove that she really didn't want to die only to randomly kill her anyway for no reason other than the fact that her journey was over now that she knew who she was. If only anything in this book made sense.

[Melanie]

Sierra wrote: "I predicted the ending the second I knew Tobias had a POV."

That is exactly what I thought. As soon as she set up a POV for Tobias there was no question Tris was going to be dead by the end of the book, therowise he would have had a POV the whole series.

[Ella]

Tris was a great character. Actually, let me rephrase that... Tris was an amazing character. When she died, yeah I cried, I didn't want to believe it, I hoped that it was one of those "false deaths"... But, I don't hate the ending at all, honestly. I thought it was really Dauntless (see what I did there?! Yeah, that was lame) of Veronica to do what she did in the end. Divergent was an epic trilogy, that I will always love and respect. I don't care if you think otherwise, and disagree with my opinion. It is MY opinion, after all...

[Kendall]

Keisi wrote: "Totally disagree, killing the main character doesn't make the book special and more interesting. The only reason i still say i like the book is because the history is quite interesting, but there's..."

I think that is the opposite of point Veronica Roth was trying to make. In insurgent, Tris wasn't ready to die. She was looking for the easy way out of life. In allegiance, she imagined her mother telling her she was finally ready. In Insurgent she was about to die from selfishness that did not benefit anyone, hardly even herself. In Allegiant she wasn't tired of life, she had fulfilled her "life's goal" or whatever you call it. The hype was never about her death, but her death's purpose.

[Hannah]

My feelings for the end are very... Neutral. On one hand, it completely makes sense that Tris dies. She dies in a way that fits with her character, and we honestly should have seen it coming. On the other hand... Well, there isn't really another hand, I just like happy endings. I was mad at first (I was mentally preparing myself for Tobias to die, not Tris), but then I realized I did the exact same thing with a character in one of my books... I guess I can't be mad; I kill off a lot of my favourite characters too.

[Hannah]

Montanna wrote: "So many people complain that it wasn't necessary for Tris to die, but I think it was only realistic and it really made the book better. There are so many frustrating books where you can tell the ma..."

Completely agree!

[[deleted user]]

I LOVED the ending!
I mean, of course, I wish Tris was alive, but then, it's better off that she's dead. For the readers, anyway. It teaches people something. It's so intense!
It taught me that life isn't all happy, u know?
Books aren't always meant to have a happily-ever-after ending.

[Lauren]

Funny, most people who hate the ending for the sadness of it say it's because they already know that life isn't happy, and that they read books to get away from that reality, not to slap them in the face with the hard truths of life that anybody who's ever walked out their front door already knows.

[A]

Fiction is not bound to realism.

[Kristin]

I think the ending was awful because I love happy endings which is one of the reasons I read young adult and fantasy stories because they often have a happy ending instead of a sad one like in Allegiant.

[Lauren]

I truly don't mind a sad ending, even in a story where genre convention would cause me to expect a happy ending. I like a story to surprise me. If there's one thing I hate, it's knowing almost everything that's going to happen on almost every page because the story is just that damn predictable. That said, I still need a story to make sense. I am fine with a story that has an unexpectedly tragic ending if the actual story leading up to it supports the event. I do not appreciate a story that uses a tragic ending for no reason other than to suit the author's personal opinions on how a story is made more powerful or what her personal idea of what that character's best conclusion should be, regardless of how it fits into the overall plot. I don't like when I can actually tell that the plot was twisted specifically to create this tragic ending. It doesn't feel like it's truly organic to the story. It feels like it was put there on a "just because" basis, because the writer wants to force some theme or point or something.

[Pamela]

I like the ending. Obviously I was sad that Tris die, I was. But when she saw her mother there with her, I don't find it so sad anymore. She was happy to see her, to be with her again. I will say that the reason I was sad about the death of Tris is that Tobias can't be with the girl that he loves and adore, but he shows us that he is going to be ok. The epilogue, for me, was the best part of the book.

[Lauren]

Ack, her mother "appearing" was the worst part of that scene for me. Even putting aside my anger and frustration at how pointless the situation was because the entire plot that created it was contrived beyond all believability, in the actual moment as she was shot I forced myself to get into the moment, Tris's last moments, the very real last few seconds of her life. And then Veronica Roth has to cheese up the place by having a vision of Tris's mom appear and bring her into the light or some other dumb shit. I was almost ready to cry a little before that, but then I just rolled my eyes. For a second there I thought this was supposed to be realistic. Why are we talking to dead people?

[A]

Lauren wrote: "Ack, her mother "appearing" was the worst part of that scene for me. Even putting aside my anger and frustration at how pointless the situation was because the entire plot that created it was contr..."

Roth did it for shock value.

[Lauren]

I think in her head that part of the scene was supposed to convey the "point" of why this happened. It was for her parents, after all. Whatever. I think the biggest problem is that, being 25 years old with no children of her own and likely having not experienced much loss on a personal level, Veronica is just not mature/worldly enough to grasp the deep ideas she tries to execute. It's far too shallow and a bit deluded.

[A]

Yes. I agree. Not to mention how preachy this book was.

[Lauren]

Oy, I know! Setting aside the complete and utter randomness of it at all since it had nothing to do with the story or theme of the previous books, the whole "prejudice is bad" theme was so annoyingly heavyhanded and immature. The whole thing read like she just looked up "racism" on the Wikipedia. And it wasn't even presented as a theme; it was the actual plot of the darn book. I really couldn't believe that the entire story came down to something so stupid. You know how a story seems to take itself way too seriously, as if it thinks it's the first story that ever came up with the ideas it's talking about? That's what this felt like.

[Lauren]

Hilariously enough, that was the one detail that I liked. In theory. I would have preferred Tris to be ironically killed by a simple gun in the context of a much less stupid storyline.

[Madison]

I'm not sure. I didn't like the book as a whole. It was a let down after the first and second books. At first I was pissed about the ending, but then I realized that is was the best part of the book. So I have mixed feelings

[Prabh]

it wasn't "lived happily ever after" kind of ending though...i wasn't expecting it

[Emma]

Lauren wrote: "Ack, her mother "appearing" was the worst part of that scene for me. Even putting aside my anger and frustration at how pointless the situation was because the entire plot that created it was contr..."

I also thought that was very cliched and absurd.

[Katie]

I think the ending of the book is amazing it's sad but so good! I love Tris so much but everybody dies in the end and Allegiant is probably the best book out of all 3 because of mostly the ending it was really good!

[Shannon]

Lauren wrote: "The idea that she died because she figured out what sacrifice really meant and, since that was the reason for her journey, she no longer needed to go on anymore - that is utterly, unfathomably prep..."

You hit the nail right on the head! I never understood the reasoning that she was doing this for her parents...like you said, they died so that she could LIVE!
This book just made me angry and still frustrates me, I really need to get over it!

[[deleted user]]

Jordan wrote: "Now, don't get me wrong. I love Tris and I definitely was crying my eyes out when she died. But I also think it was a very smart decision of Veronica Roth because no one kills off the main characte..."

Okay, at first I was incredibly mad that she decided to kill of Tris, because I wanted a more Hunger Games style ending, but now that you bring it up, I do think it is brave. I also thought about it, it's realistic too.

[Madison]

Shannon wrote: "Lauren wrote: "The idea that she died because she figured out what sacrifice really meant and, since that was the reason for her journey, she no longer needed to go on anymore - that is utterly, un..."
I agree with both of you. At first I just thought how pointless it was, but a sad ending is a good ending sometimes. At first it's painful, but then you notice the bravery and it is realistic. I also like how she dies. It's almost ironic that after everything, she's killed by a crippled man with a gun.

[Lauren]

I don't mind that part, being killed by a boring old gun by a boring old man who can't even get up, but it was still contrived to me even then. I didn't really buy that David would even kill her, given their connection through Natalie, given his obsession with studying genetic purity and knowing that she is somehow super-duper pure and seeing, now, that she is so pure that she can even withstand the death serum. I just didn't really buy that he would so easily sacrifice that for the sake of protecting his precious experiment. I didn't really buy the kill shot. Unless he was just crazed and out of his mind and not thinking clearly beyond "I have to save my science!!!1!" I don't know, too many plot points in this book require you to accept that the characters are a lot dumber than they probably are.

[Madison]

Madison wrote: "Shannon wrote: "Lauren wrote: "The idea that she died because she figured out what sacrifice really meant and, since that was the reason for her journey, she no longer needed to go on anymore - tha..."

Good points! I really didn't enjoy the book nearly as much as the first two.

[Lauren]

I like the ending for the reason that you said. I thought it was a different type of ending.

[Elena]

Don’t get me wrong I get that it was bold move to kill Trish but it was not well executed. She survives so many things and her death is just stupid. Also! The way she describes dying OMFG! A great opportunity ruined. If you are going to kill your main character do it right. Like in I am Legend! i accepted that he had to died. i was so peaceful to accept that he didn’t have any other choice that he was the foreign on the planet and outsider it was just beautiful! Well back to the main issue, they deserved to be happy, together!!! And I’m not even saying well they live happy ever after! They had they ups and downs! But never the less they could built a new life together but fine if you need to kill someone I was better accepting if you killed Tobias, Trish could handle it she was different than Tobias, he had suffer enough!! But NOO add more suffering and emptiness and desolation to it.
Hell! Kill them both I could accept that! And this is not about Trish I liked her but I liked Tobias more and I just couldn’t stand the suffering he went through!

[Elena]

Brynn wrote: "Elena wrote: "Don’t get me wrong I get that it was bold move to kill Trish but it was not well executed. She survives so many things and her death is just stupid. Also! The way she describes dying ..."

Ohhh WOW thank you so much for pointing that Out!

[Lonneke]

I absolutely loved the book actually. The way Veronica Roth made the world look and the way Tris, Tobias and everyone else from Chicago reacted on it was so good!! Also the explanation why they were in Chicago was good, it was pretty vague, but it had a reason that was understandable, I was really happy about that. Then of course Tris death. I really hated that she didn't talk with David any time longer because at the time she decided to go for it she was not even halfway thorough everything she could confront David with! I feel like she should have waited longer so that she maybe had a bigger survival chance. But I guess that's just the image I made up in my head. Also I loved the way Tobias reacted on her death. It was so heartbreaking and beautifully written. So I really loved it. It's true, the ending is very, very depressing. But I think the story is really great.