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GENERAL BOOK DISCUSSIONS > the giver question! how do they create a perfect society?

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message 1: by K (new)

K (aznek) i also have another question:
"Utopian society that relies on euthanasia and suicide to create the perfect community"
i dont see that in the book (i'm only a blissfully unaware teenager, so i obviously wouldn't quite yet haha) and how do they use suicide to create a perfect community? i am extremely confused. although that is very interesting, how DO they create a perfect society? please explain!


message 2: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan (lisavegan) Kenza, You already asked this in another thread and I just posted an answer.

A full answer would be a spoiler for those readers who haven't read the book so I hope nobody answers in detail.


message 3: by K (new)

K (aznek) oh, huh. well i suppose that's right, so maybe you could just message me about it?


message 4: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan (lisavegan) Kenza, Well, the other thread is going strong so maybe we can let others post in that thread. As I said, it's been years since I've read the book so I'm not sure.


message 5: by K (new)

K (aznek) Lisa wrote: "Kenza, Well, the other thread is going strong so maybe we can let others post in that thread. As I said, it's been years since I've read the book so I'm not sure."

ah. i see :)


message 6: by Julia (new)

Julia | 62 comments It's been years since I read it as well, but thematically, utopian societies by their nature are dystopian.

Why that would cause banning I can't say. Perhaps if there were a true utopia then one wouldn't yearn for heaven?

P.S. Ursula K. LeGuin has a short story with very similar themes to the The Giver "Those that Walk with the Omelas."

Julia


message 7: by K (new)

K (aznek) Julia wrote: "It's been years since I read it as well, but thematically, utopian societies by their nature are dystopian.

Why that would cause banning I can't say. Perhaps if there were a true utopia then one..."

yea i remember talking about that with my friends...and when i looked up some sites they said the exact same thing. and im not sure why its banned either, i was wondering.



message 8: by Kelly (Maybedog), Minister of Illicit Reading (new)

Kelly (Maybedog) (maybedog) | 939 comments Mod
I'm moving this to another folder because this folder is for discussing the books we're reading as a group.


message 9: by K (new)

K (aznek) Kelly wrote: "I'm moving this to another folder because this folder is for discussing the books we're reading as a group."

mmk....


message 10: by Kelly (Maybedog), Minister of Illicit Reading (new)

Kelly (Maybedog) (maybedog) | 939 comments Mod
Np, just keeping everything orderly so people don't get confused. :)


message 11: by Wes (new)

Wes (pricerightbooks) | 33 comments ok


message 12: by Simon (new)

Simon Jester (simonjester) | 3 comments We already have the perfect society.


message 13: by Kelly (Maybedog), Minister of Illicit Reading (new)

Kelly (Maybedog) (maybedog) | 939 comments Mod
You really think so? I think we are extremely fortunate but I really don't think our society is perfect by any means. I don't think the 4 cops who were shot and murdered in a coffee shop while drinking coffee two days ago would agree. Nor would those who are unemployed and have run out of benefits or those without healthcare.


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