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how do the villain and the hero reveal each other?

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message 1: by Gail (new)

Gail Martin (gailzmartin) | 3 comments Mod
You could argue that a hero and a villain are two people who bring out the best/worst in each other. Would a villain be quite so villainous if not frustrated by a hero? Would the hero be a hero without a villain? (Gee, this is sounding like the plot to Dr. Horrible's Sing Along Blog). So how do your favorite villains briing out the best/worst in the hero, and vice versa?

message 2: by vorbore (new)

vorbore | 2 comments As, naturally, a well written character is never just white or black - since it makes them more alive and real - they have to be occasionally tempted, as any regular person would, by their shady spots. Then along comes the villain, and tempts/pushes the hero some more, but the hero decides (after an inner struggle of arbitrary length) that he will not give in, because that is not the person the hero wants to be. That was how the villain brings out the best in the hero and makes the hero develop and grow.
The hero brings out the worst in the villain simply by not accepting the villain's ways, by not succumbing to his own weaknesses, as the need for ultimate control is each villain's essence. Hero achieves extra points in the "Bringing Out The Worst In A Villain" game by showing mercy to the villain.
But the villain can also score points bringing out the worst in the hero, if the villain provokes the hero into exaggerated violence by, say, harming someone of great importance to the hero.
I honestly have no idea how would a hero bring out the best in a villain, where this villain would remain a villain in the process.

message 3: by Chris (new)

Chris Jackson (chrisajackson) | 2 comments Agree with Vorbore about all characters... all good or all bad is just plain bad. A truly reprehensible and irredeemable villain is not impossible, but some idea of how that character evolved into that kind of creature must be at least hinted at. As for the "hero", I have real issues with "squeaky clean" types, and love to read, and write, the conflicted or morally ambiguous type of hero who, through the course of interacting with the challenges of the story, including the stones thrown at him/her by the villain, turns a corner and becomes a different person. All characters, heroes and villains, must evolve throughout the story.

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