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Esquire's 75 Books That a Man Should Read
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The list of authors ..."
I can't help thinking of "the most interesting man in the world" from the Dos Equis beer commercials when I think about who reads Esquire. It's always been for 'manly men' or those who want to be. With that in mind, the list seems about right.
Speaking of Dos Equis, Flannery O'Connor has 2 'X' chromosomes, and Slaughterhouse Five made the list, though it's surprising to see Catch-22 missing.
I have to say, I am a regular sports radio listener (at least daily) and so my reaction to this list is somewhat tempered by my understanding those who still flip through this magazine (I don't kid myself that anyone still reads it) also buy last-minute pajamagrams for their wives and girlfriends because they have forgotten it was christmas/valentines day/anniversay. And to digress from there, the idea that anyone who flips through the magazine is actually looking for suggestions about what to read next is kind of laughable. I think the list must have been written in the 80s, and updated with one or two more contemporary authors to make it look like these guys still read. Studs Terkel? Really? Not that I have anything against the guy, but no one reads Studs anymore.
Patty Im surprised to hear you hating on esquire as if it's playboy
esquire has morphed over the last couple decades into sort of a straight guys version of GQ
the ads are all of the 'husky well put together man glowering at the camera in some fabulous european port of call' mold, and they devote many many more pages to a well chosen scarf or accessory or the proper way to char a steak than they do to the female form (if any, it really is minimal to non existent now)
and there's usually a couple great articles per issue, as well as some regular short columns from writers like Chuck Klosterman or AJ Jacobs
btw in the current issue they list 5 upcoming must-read collections of short fiction including ones by Karen Russell and Jess Walter (and they loved Beautiful Ruins)
esquire has morphed over the last couple decades into sort of a straight guys version of GQ
the ads are all of the 'husky well put together man glowering at the camera in some fabulous european port of call' mold, and they devote many many more pages to a well chosen scarf or accessory or the proper way to char a steak than they do to the female form (if any, it really is minimal to non existent now)
and there's usually a couple great articles per issue, as well as some regular short columns from writers like Chuck Klosterman or AJ Jacobs
btw in the current issue they list 5 upcoming must-read collections of short fiction including ones by Karen Russell and Jess Walter (and they loved Beautiful Ruins)

I missed Catch-22 not being on the list. That is a surprise. It's the great American WWII novel, so very male. O'Connor probably was prim as southern woman can be, but her work does seem macho. And I 2nd Matt's assertion that Esquire does run good writers--Charlie Perce for instance.
Robert
mmmm. well, to be honest, i was really just trying to rationalize away the offesiveness (to me) of the list by chosing to believe that the artice was not intended for actual intelletuals. if you are telling me that i am wrong about this periodical, and that it actually is intended for intellectuals, i guess i'll just have to settle for being offended by their absurd list.


Tangential response to a throwaway line from Patty. My work here is done
So Spin Magazine went out of publication and it was so cheap I was subscribed through 2018. They transferred my subscription to Esquire! I haven't decided yet if I shall cancel and get my $$ back or not. Since I do have a boyfriend now (who is moving in with me soon, incidentally) maybe I should keep it for him?
Patty wrote: "mmmm. well, to be honest, i was really just trying to rationalize away the offesiveness (to me) of the list by chosing to believe that the artice was not intended for actual intelletuals. if you ar..."
Harpers Feb 2013 issue - page 37 ad: "'Spoil Her' send her a pajamagram"; page 86 ad: "athena pheromones can increase attractiveness"
meanwhile is esquire intended for intellectuals? no of course not - but it isnt just quite maxim either
Harpers Feb 2013 issue - page 37 ad: "'Spoil Her' send her a pajamagram"; page 86 ad: "athena pheromones can increase attractiveness"
meanwhile is esquire intended for intellectuals? no of course not - but it isnt just quite maxim either
no personal offense intended, e-, if you happen to be a reader of esquire. i don't read it, hence my ignorance about its audience. i simply likened its audience to sports radio's audience, of which i am a member, and for which the content is also not meant to be intellectual, but which sometimes does actually offer recommendations for books and movies and television.
i'll continue to feel comfortable with my rationalization, then. shall i?
i'll continue to feel comfortable with my rationalization, then. shall i?
no worries patty - but I was pretty amused on the plane today when I came across the pajamagram ad in harpers
hooray! i don't know anyone who has ever sent or recieved a pajamagram, do you?
i know you haven't yet been able to make it to a dorkapalooza, e, but i have to tell you that in the context of the fiction files, the word pajama just instantly triggers a whole set of mental images for me, many of them involving giraffe nighties and drunken johnny. :)
i know you haven't yet been able to make it to a dorkapalooza, e, but i have to tell you that in the context of the fiction files, the word pajama just instantly triggers a whole set of mental images for me, many of them involving giraffe nighties and drunken johnny. :)
Patty, pajamagram made me think of bananagrams and Ben kicking all our asses at that game over and over again until about 3am. PEEL! PEEL! PEEL!
The list of authors is all male, mostly American, mostly white. Not as dead I as I thought. This group may applaud the inclusions American Pastoral. I was surprised that the list lacks Heller, Vonnegut, Brautigan, and Dick, but I guess one filter was, nothing too weird. Lists like these say more about their creators than the books, and I am sure this was put together to be provocative. But I am provoked ... maybe other members of fictionfiles will be too.