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If you've read both Jane Eyre and Wuthering Heights - Rochester or Heathcliff?

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message 301: by Breea (new) - rated it 4 stars

Breea Rochester for his compassion not only in love but humanity too.


message 302: by Maria (new) - rated it 5 stars

Maria Velb it depends on your personal type. if u've an uneven temper and crave for adventures and mad passion in life - your choice id Heathcliff.
if you're a romantic nature - Rochester for sure


birdy Rochester is the least bad heheheeh...he is weird but he is a sourful thing hehehe
Jane and him were needy for affection..
But emotional dependency is not love !

I don't like Heathcliff he has Narcissistic personality disorder ..he is the typical obsessed lover..
those sociopaths.. ( folks thinks they are just killers.. ) no no most are obsessed Narcissistic people
and that is not love ..
Cathy was another obsessed person too..
they did not love each other...to me that was not love!
it was a sick obsession..


message 304: by Julie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Julie Griffin I confess that I have never made it through the entirety of Wuthering Heights even thought I have tried several times. I get annoyed at the breathless obsession that passes for love. I don't like either Heathcliff or Cathy very much for that matter. I prefer the slow unfolding of Jane Eyre and the fact that Jane has an independent life and is her own person BEFORE she meets Rochester. Heathcliff is a boy, and Rochester is a man. I prefer the character of Rochester because he is written more in depth and developed more fully.


message 305: by Audrey (new) - rated it 5 stars

Audrey I have made it all the way through Wuthering Heights before and I always feel like slapping or choking Cathy and Heathcliff!


Jacquelyn Rochester! He treats Jane as an equal, everything she ever wanted. Heathcliff is a spoiled little brat who abuses everyone around him and ruins everyones lives because his love wouldn't have him.

Rochester all the freaking way.


Jacquelyn fabby wrote: "heathcliff because he was passionate he knew what he wanted and dint waver Rochester was in love but not enough to tell the truth and he was just to tame"

Heathcliff was an abusive jerk. To Catherine, Isabella, Hindley, Hareton, Linton... Everyone! I feel bad for him, for the childhood he had--but it doesn't excuse his terrible behavior. And Rochester, though sometimes mean-spirited, treated Jane as an equal and truly loved her for allowing her to choose her life.


message 308: by Indira (new) - rated it 5 stars

Indira Sarkar Rochester no doubt, though i believe every individual has his own way of showing his affections, at times they are Heathcliffs and at times he is Rochesters.


message 309: by Maria (new) - rated it 5 stars

Maria Rochester of course!


message 310: by [deleted user] (new)

Why do I even bother keeping up with this discussion? It's all just Rochester, Rochester, Rochester!


message 311: by Amy (new) - rated it 4 stars

Amy Parker I prefer Heathcliff as a character to read about, but if I had to spend time around either of them, I'd definitely regard Rochester as the least bad option. Heathcliff is fascinating and dramatic, but he's also abusive, vicious, and literally kills puppies.


message 312: by Apurva (new) - rated it 1 star

Apurva I think I would choose Heathcliff over Rochester .True,Rochester is more virtuous but Heathcliff's love for Catherine is soooo deep...Heathcliff wins hands down in that department...


message 313: by Brolie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Brolie I think Jane has gone through more trials and had a worse upbringing than Heathcliff but she didn't turn into a horrible excuse for a human being. There are no justifications for his character, he's just a bad person. Stay away!


message 314: by Rita (new) - rated it 5 stars

Rita Siavelis Rochester for certain. I could never understand Heathcliff's apeal


message 315: by Amouna (new) - rated it 5 stars

Amouna Mr. Rochester is the best.. As for the protagonist of Wuthering Heights, I really did not like him, though I live the novel to the extent that I have read it so many times..


She_wolf Jane Eyre and Wuthering Heights these two books are on the top of my list for all times .


message 317: by Yvonne (new) - rated it 5 stars

Yvonne ROCHESTER!!! Always and forever! I've read earlier in the discussion that people commented on liking Dr. John/Graham from Villette (which I'm currently in the middle of) and I truly cannot understand it! I think he's such a tease; I'm over him. :P


message 318: by Anita (new) - rated it 5 stars

Anita Anderson I would choose Rochester for his sensible love and tender feelings, however, I would much rather like to have a man who would love me like Heathcliff loved Chaterine. He did not kill her, she died from not being able to turn back time, and choose him instead of Linton. That is what I call bad choice. If you love a man you should be happy with him regardless of his fortune. Mr. Rochester lost everything at the end, but he gained Jane. Heathliff was rich at the end but he lost Chaterine. Rochester was luckier, but Heathcliff was struggling from the start, he was not rich, he was not like everyone else. Here Chaterine made a mistake, not him.


Rameesha Siddique Rochester. Heathcliff was extremely selfish. Rochester on the other hand was dutiful, even if it hurt him like he was to his wife.


message 320: by Rachel (new) - rated it 5 stars

Rachel Rochester hands down. Heathcliff just can't compare...sorry Heathcliff fans!


message 321: by Amr (new) - rated it 5 stars

Amr ☯Emily wrote: "Many people are raised with cruelty, but are not cruel. They don't want others to suffer as they suffered. What Heathcliff did to the second generation was unconscionable. That is what makes him..."

Totally agree with you, Heathcliff's revenge was brutal and had reached innocent people. Many people feel sorry for what'd happened to him, I do sometimes but only a bit, but that can never be an execuse for his horrible deeds.
Rochester on the other hand had just lied, but only because he loved Jane, though it's still a lie and a betrayal to the trust she gave him.
If their love to their beloved ones were compared, we can't say that one's love was more intimate than the other.
If they were compared as persons I'd go for Rochester.


message 322: by Josie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Josie Passarelli Oh definitely Rochester. The story of Jane Eyre was much more compelling to me on the whole.


message 323: by Lisa (new) - rated it 5 stars

Lisa Levine Definitely Jane Eyre and Mr. Rochester. I have read both and just have a hard time liking Cathy and Heathcliff. Their obsessive love negatively affects all of the other characters in the novel.


Bielaxiangqin to compare between both Rochester and Heathcliff, I would choose Mr.Rochester.Rochester is not violent towards the person he love.but i don't know.it's just my opinion.i really admire the chemistry that was built between jane and mr.Rochester.LOVE IT! hehe


message 325: by [deleted user] (new)

Heathcliff for me every time - there's something about his darkness, complexity and passion that sets him apart from most male protagonists. However, Rochester isn't exactly what I would class as a 'boring' option...there's a lot to be said for his rationality and the love between him and Jane is far more stable and healthy. Catherine and Heathcliff are volatile, and even though I think I enjoyed the experience of reading about them more, I certainly wouldn't want my own relationship to be like theirs!


//claire Rochester. Heathcliff was unforgiving and didn't want to change for the better. He was obsessed with revenge. Rochester on the other hand was willing to change for Jane and did not obsess over revenge. and he spent like 3 pages in a row professing his love for Jane...


message 327: by Ana (last edited Jun 11, 2013 02:32PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Ana Beatriz Rochester. I can imagine having him as a partner in life,not merely as a lover. But Heathcliff? He is temperamental,wild and violent. Let's say I wouldn't want to meet him in a dark alley.


message 328: by Blayz (new) - rated it 4 stars

Blayz Rochester...as a character he had much more depth and was far more believable.


Heather Blackwood I'm with everyone else. I'd take Rochester for certain. Heathcliff is a sociopath, albeit a fascinating one.


Incitanemxx HEATHCLIFF


message 331: by Ellie (new) - rated it 4 stars

Ellie Rochester,did not like Heathcliff at all.Way too moody!


message 332: by Neon (new) - rated it 4 stars

Neon Rochester but then if Heathcliff loved as mush as he loved Catherine then i would choose Heathcliff. He never tortured or abused Catherine. Did he???? Both are equally good. Sighhhhhhhh


Ana Lu Defitenly Heathcliff


Jacquelyn Brolie wrote: "I think Jane has gone through more trials and had a worse upbringing than Heathcliff but she didn't turn into a horrible excuse for a human being. There are no justifications for his character, he'..."

Here, here!!


message 335: by [deleted user] (new)

Megha wrote: "Rochester but then if Heathcliff loved as mush as he loved Catherine then i would choose Heathcliff. He never tortured or abused Catherine. Did he????"
Nope, never did.


message 336: by Emily (new) - rated it 4 stars

Emily Lonsdale Rochester all the way he is actually kind under all the naughty behavior and Heathcliff is vindictive and mean. I do think Jane is a bit to hard on him to be honest. But then that is the high morals of the time isn't it?


message 337: by Marte (last edited Jun 21, 2013 04:15AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Marte I despised Heathcliff, he was just an evil little twat, just like his Catherine. Mr. Rochester all the way!


message 338: by Mind (new) - rated it 3 stars

Mind Bird Ahem,as a Heathcliff person, I am chiming back in, as this overwhelming approval of Rochester is unwarranted. Wasn't Rochester busy flirting with, and leading on, a nasty woman who wanted to marry him when Jane first appeared? Wasn't he going to marry Jane even though he had a wife in the attic? Can anyone imagine what Jane's position would have been when it eventually came out, at that time, in that society? Heathcliff would never have done any of this--he didn't have that deceptiveness in him. It was his unshielded heart that made him such a beast later in life. Had Catherine been the equal of Jane in character, it would have been a short simple and boring novel of a great love.


message 339: by [deleted user] (new)

Mind wrote: "Ahem,as a Heathcliff person, I am chiming back in, as this overwhelming approval of Rochester is unwarranted. Wasn't Rochester busy flirting with, and leading on, a nasty woman who wanted to marry ..."
I love this. I really love it. Sooooooo true. I am speechless.


Aisling For me Rochester wins hands down. Heathcliff engaged in too much of the "sulky teenager" act, though I did feel sorry for him - but I couldn't be doing with a man I felt sorry for.


message 341: by T.k. (last edited Jun 21, 2013 07:38PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

T.k. Guerrero For me it would be Rochester, he had some compassion and tried to help people.Heathcliff was an ass! consumed by hate and only thought of revenge no matter who he involved to get it.


message 342: by Hamy (new) - rated it 4 stars

Hamy Bakir Rochester, definitely


Lovetoread47 Rochester


message 344: by Lisa (new) - rated it 5 stars

Lisa Rashid Heathcliff is my favorite, he was a victim after all, and his heart was full in love and sadness in same time ...
I believe that he become so hardhearted because all what he suffered.


message 345: by Judy (new) - rated it 5 stars

Judy Floyd Heathcliff for all that he was given was not grateful for any. Rochester is the better man.


message 346: by Teresa (new) - rated it 3 stars

Teresa Fallen Oh my lord, neither.


message 347: by Chloe (new) - rated it 4 stars

Chloe (Paint and Butterflies Books) I know that I shouldn't like Heathcliff best but I do I just can't help it...


message 348: by TC (new) - rated it 5 stars

TC Rochester without question. Heathcliff is a sociopath, and on top of that a wife beater and kidnapper.


message 349: by Peg (new) - rated it 5 stars

Peg Rochester, without a second's thought. I didn't care much for Heathcliffe not his actions/attitude.
"Jane Eyre" is one of my very favorites.......


message 350: by Grace (new) - rated it 5 stars

Grace Mr. Rochester. Heathcliff was just irredeemable. I kind of had a love/hate thing for Heathcliff because it always seemed that he was on the verge of a change for the better, but he never did.
Mr. Rochester had many flaws, yet he still remained redeemable
because he lied out of true love for Jane. On top of that, he eventually admits that it was wrong of him to try and force Jane to be his mistress and deceive her into a dishonest union.
Heathcliff, on the other hand, is merciless and cruel. I think that he is more obsessed with Catherine than in love with her. After all, he selfishly goes to see her to fulfill his own desires when Nellie tells him that the very sight of him in Catherine's condition could kill her (which it does). Heathcliff doesn't seem to truly empathize with any character, and he selfishly tries to make Cathy's decisions for her from the very beginning. He's also an abusive, manipulative mean-spirited, and sociopathic man. Heathcliff could be redeemable if he just let go of his past injustices, but he can't. Heathcliff's grudging nature is perhaps his fatal flaw.


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