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How to select the January Laser pick

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message 1: by Tom, Supreme Laser (new)

Tom Merritt (tommerritt) | 1008 comments Mod
Empress Veronica has bestowed upon me right and title to dictate the book pick for January.

While we are pleased with this power, we also wish to at least nod in acknowledgement to the wishes of the people.

We have come to understand that a conspiracy has developed to petition for Burning Chrome to be selected. In its favor, we note that it is a selection of short stories which is new and interesting. To its deteriment it is written by an author we have read before. Repeating authors, while it can be done, causes rage and anger to rise in the humors of our Empress and is not advised without careful consultation.

Democratically, Old Man's War is at the top of our Listopia - http://www.goodreads.com/list/show/20... and has been petitioned on its own by the Nick-ites.

Less Democratically I -- er-- me--- er-- WE want to read more Philip K. Dick or Stanisław Lem

What say you, people of Swordlaseria? Let your voices be heard-- or written-- or rather typed --- HERE and we shall consider and rule.


message 2: by [deleted user] (new)

I think it's time Nick was given his reward for faithful service.

Old Mans War!


message 3: by Rainer (new)

Rainer Dela Cuesta (delacuesta) | 28 comments I have not read a lot of sci-fi, so I'm really glad the January pick is going to be a laser book!


message 4: by Kevin (last edited Nov 16, 2012 05:36PM) (new)

Kevin Xu (kxu65) | 1081 comments I would love to read Burning Chrome because it would be something different. Old Man's War has been read by other groups.


message 5: by Leesa (new)

Leesa (leesalogic) | 500 comments OMW! !!!!

!!!!!


message 6: by Rob, Roberator (new)

Rob (robzak) | 4971 comments Mod
Old man's war


message 7: by Phil (new)

Phil | 921 comments Old Man's War


message 8: by Karly (new)

Karly (karlyko) | 79 comments I think this should be the month we read Old Man's War. Not only do I want to read it, but poor Nickites, right? He's been petitioning it for a long time and you and Empress V have teased him for months.


message 9: by Rick (new)

Rick | 2002 comments Well, we've read Scalzi too... Fuzzy Nation.

My personal preference is to read things that might be new to people who are dipping into the subgenre (Laser or Sword) and that:

a) Aren't widely read/popular already. I get reading The Hobbit and even Cloud Atlas, but both of those books were going to already be in peoples' faces due to the movies for each. I love discovering new things and exploring them here (Robin Hobb was an example for me)

b) aren't the start of a series arc* (episodic series are fine)

c) Bring attention to an author that people might not already know. I like Scalzi a lot, but he's someone who any SF Laser fan will know of even if a given book in his ouvré might not be widely known. I think it would be cool if we introduced lesser known authors to the S&L group.

We're also big enough that we could potentially help get a talented writer some meaningful sales. This doesn't necessarily mean a new author... Lem would be one as would someone like Walter John Williams. On the Sword side Robin Hobb might be well known to dedicated fantasy fans but wasn't familiar to me at all.

Examples on the Laser side :
Moxyland or Zoo CIty by Lauren Beukes
The Quantum Thief, Hannu Rajaniemi
Crystal Rain by Tobias Buckell
Vurt or Channel Sk1n by Jeff Noon.
This Is Not A Game, Walter John Williams

On the Sword side:
Sixty One Nails, Mike Shevdon
Servant of the Underworld, Aliette de Bodard
Child of Fire, Harry Connelly
Hounded, Kevin Hearne


*by series arc I mean where the story spans the volumes of the series vs something episodic where each novel is self-contained even if they take place in the same universe. First books where the story spans the series or most of it seem to have pacing issues for some people.


message 10: by Everitt (new)

Everitt | 56 comments Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?

I'm with you on more Lem, but PKD would be great as well. While I'd rather read something like The Man in the High Castle, I'm more than happy to read DADES? It is also right below Scalzi's books in the list so I know I'm not alone here.


message 11: by Jeff (new)

Jeff Namadan (jnamadan) | 218 comments Let's do it: Old Man's War!


message 12: by Warren (new)

Warren | 1554 comments I'm flexible.
Any book that involves people dropping out of space craft
and blowing things up would be fine.


message 13: by David(LA,CA) (new)

David(LA,CA) (DavidScharf) | 327 comments Everitt wrote: "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?"

I second this nomination, if only to perhaps encourage it to be included in some kind of vote between top contenders.


message 14: by Sean (new)

Sean O'Hara (SeanOHara) | 2321 comments Tom wrote: "Less Democratically I -- er-- me--- er-- WE want to read more Philip K. Dick or Stanisław Lem"

I'm currently reading a rather Lem-like book about the Cold War as seen through the eyes of the Soviet space-dogs and their descendents.


message 15: by Adam (new)

Adam Gutschenritter (Heregrim) | 96 comments The Sparrow


message 16: by Procrastinador (new)

Procrastinador Diletante | 104 comments I vote for Old Man's War too. Just finished reading it last month and I think everyone should have a chance to read it, since it's awesome.

André


message 17: by Leesa (new)

Leesa (leesalogic) | 500 comments @Sean, I was fortunate to get that same book at CapClave this year. Nick Mamatas was recommending it. I look forward to reading it.


message 18: by Alex (new)

Alex Ristea (alexristea) | 654 comments Old mans war!


message 19: by Ruthifred (new)

Ruthifred | 5 comments I vote for Stanislaw Lem this time around!


message 20: by Tassie Dave, S&L Historian (new)

Tassie Dave | 2130 comments Mod
We haven't read any Philip K Dick, so he gets my vote.


message 21: by Tamahome (new)

Tamahome | 5088 comments Give the Nick what he wants.


message 22: by John (john) (new)

John (john) (DowdyKitchenMan) | 122 comments January's my birthday month, and I request we read PKD. (Lemme guess - Nick's is January too, right?)


message 23: by Pickle (new)

Pickle | 192 comments Tassie Dave wrote: "We haven't read any Philip K Dick, so he gets my vote."

PKD gets my vote


message 24: by Anish (new)

Anish | 4 comments My Vote's for Philip K Dick!


message 25: by [deleted user] (new)

Would love to read Old Mans War.


message 26: by Andrew (new)

Andrew | 31 comments I would also like to throw a vote in for Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?


message 27: by Pickle (new)

Pickle | 192 comments Andrew wrote: "I would also like to throw a vote in for Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?"

id like to see a different PKD being read...my choice would be Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said or Martian Time-Slip


message 28: by Sam (new)

Sam | 33 comments January I'll be ready to jump back in to a group read/discussion, and I recently picked up some sale priced PKD on Kindle - A Scanner Darkly, Ubik, and The Man in the High Castle. Any one of which would be a fine choice.


message 29: by Laura (new)

Laura (conundrum44) | 94 comments I have to go with Old Man's War - for the entirely mercenary reason of it being a book I have but have not read yet.


message 30: by Dara (new)

Dara (cmdrdara) | 1950 comments Ether Old Man's War (never read and Scalzi myself) or The Man in the High Castle since its been sitting on my shelf for over a year and then I'd be forced to pick it up.


message 31: by Andrew (new)

Andrew | 31 comments Dara wrote: "Ether Old Man's War (never read and Scalzi myself) or The Man in the High Castle since its been sitting on my shelf for over a year and then I'd be forced to pick it up."

I have the same problem with The Man in the High Castle. I'm definitely hoping for a PKD pick for January.


message 32: by Kevin (new)

Kevin | 700 comments Either Old Man's War or PKD's Do androids ... are ok with me, since I've already read both recently, so I can join the discussion without adding another book to my already way to busy reading schedule for the winter.


message 33: by Lee (new)

Lee | 43 comments Old Man's War as I got it in the Humble Bundle and haven't read it yet.

If PKD then The Man in the High Castle gets my vote.


message 34: by terpkristin (last edited Nov 17, 2012 08:59AM) (new)

terpkristin | 3558 comments I suggest you make a spinning wheel that has a bunch of books you want (or maybe multiple instances of a handful of titles), give it a spin and that is the pick.

And here I was thinking that based on this thread, you might pick Burning Chrome...

Edit to add: I have no real preference. I haven't read much PKD, never read Old Man's War (or Starship Troopers or previous S&L pick The Forever War which apparently inspired it), and the only Lem I've read is Solaris: The Definitive Edition. So I figure that no matter what gets selected, it will be something new to me. Though I do have a copy of Old Man's War from the Humble Bundle.


message 35: by Alex (last edited Nov 17, 2012 09:26AM) (new)

Alex Ristea (alexristea) | 654 comments terpkristin wrote: "I suggest you make a spinning wheel that has a bunch of books you want (or maybe multiple instances of a handful of titles), give it a spin and that is the pick."

This should happen on the video show!


message 36: by terpkristin (new)

terpkristin | 3558 comments Alex wrote: "terpkristin wrote: "I suggest you make a spinning wheel that has a bunch of books you want (or maybe multiple instances of a handful of titles), give it a spin and that is the pick."

This should happen on the video show! "


Totally. :)


message 37: by Tamahome (new)

Tamahome | 5088 comments Put all the books on a dartboard, blindfold Veronica, and have her throw darts at them.


message 38: by Kevin (last edited Nov 22, 2012 06:08PM) (new)

Kevin Xu (kxu65) | 1081 comments Pickle wrote: "Andrew wrote: "I would also like to throw a vote in for Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?"

id like to see a different PKD being read...my choice would be Flow My Tears, the Policeman Said or Ma..."


Me too. Too many people read Blade Runner. He has written many other books, so just don't limit to that book just because of the movie.


message 39: by Sandi (new)

Sandi (Sandikal) | 1212 comments What author can you get on the show during January? I like having an author on whose book we've read recently. It makes it easier to ask questions. I guess that leave out Lem or PKD.


message 40: by Tamahome (new)

Tamahome | 5088 comments Isn't there a robot PKD?


message 41: by Sandi (new)

Sandi (Sandikal) | 1212 comments Tamahome wrote: "Isn't there a robot PKD?"

I thought his head got lost.


message 42: by Daran (new)

Daran | 599 comments If it's down to Scalzi or PKD, I'd rather read PKD's, The Man in the High Castle. It's a great book, and not discussed enough in my opinion. Just the story of how it was written is fascinating.


message 43: by Lee (new)

Lee | 43 comments Tamahome wrote: "Put all the books on a dartboard, blindfold Veronica, and have her throw darts at them."

I like the idea of a spinning wheel of book choices.

Could at some point the dragon set fire to it, giving us a flaming spinning wheel of S&L selection? (Not the books, never the books!)

I imagine though that V will favor assassin throwing knifes to darts.


message 44: by Rik (new)

Rik | 740 comments Old Mans War


message 45: by Jenny (Reading Envy) (last edited Nov 17, 2012 03:06PM) (new)

Jenny (Reading Envy) (readingenvy) | 2232 comments Tom wrote: "Empress Veronica has bestowed upon me right and title to dictate the book pick for January.

While we are pleased with this power, we also wish to at least nod in acknowledgement to the wishes of t..."


Well we've read Lem already. Have we already read Dick? I'd vote for that, great discussion potential. There have also been loads of newly released audiobook versions of much of his work.


message 46: by Laurel (new)

Laurel Any fans of the Miles Vorkosigan Saga by Lois McMaster Bujold? Most people start with The Warrior's Apprentice. It's the most AMAZING series!


message 47: by Mark (new)

Mark Catalfano (Cattfish) It doesn't matter what you pick because everybody's going to go read Memory of Light, probably ;)


message 48: by Matthew (new)

Matthew (MatthewDL) | 304 comments Scalzi is always great but my vote goes to PKD.


message 49: by Jane (new)

Jane Higginson | 163 comments Tom wrote: "Empress Veronica has bestowed upon me right and title to dictate the book pick for January.

While we are pleased with this power, we also wish to at least nod in acknowledgement to the wishes of t..."


ah tom that made me laugh my socks off! I vote for old mans war as I seem to have heard its name rather a lot!!


message 50: by Nick (new)

Nick (Whyzen) | 1291 comments :-)


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