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L.A. Hilden (Lahilden) | 106 comments I am thinking of buying the new Kindle Paperwhite. I have an older Kindle and I love it, but I want to be able to read in the dark without a book light. I was wondering if anyone has purchased this new Kindle and if you like it? Does the lighting feature work well?


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Candace | 2 comments Hello I recently purchased the Kindle Paperwhite. I upgraded for the very same reason. I loved my Kindle with the keyboard but found it difficult to read in bed without having a lamp on. The paperwhite is the answer to this problem. I love the light feature without the glare. I will say that I am still trying to get use to the muti-touch screen however


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L.A. Hilden (Lahilden) | 106 comments That is great to know, Candace. I was wondering how I'd adjust to the touch screen, I don't like switching because I like my Kindle, but night reading is a problem. I assume you can still order books without connecting to the computer and by just going to the Amazon store. Is page turning easy with touch screen and is the quality for outside reading still clear? Oh, and does it still connect with your previous Kindle library? I assume it does, but I thought I better ask. Thanks so much.


message 4: by Shawna (last edited Dec 08, 2012 08:03AM) (new)

Shawna (shapineapple) I got the Paperwhite for my birthday this year and I LOVE it! I've never owned a Kindle before and I did most of my reading on my iPad (I wanted the Paperwhite, because I've heard that backlit LCD screens can hurt your eyes to read on and my eyes are bad enough as it is), so I'm already used to reading with a touch screen. I've found the Paperwhite's screen to be just as responsive as I expected it would. Slightly slower than I'm used to with the iPad (because it needs to load the e-ink), but not slow enough for it to bother me in the slightest.

I haven't experienced any glare and that's also part of the reason I wanted a Paperwhite. My boyfriend has a Sony ereader which I tried out a few times and its glare was SO bad that even indoors, it was like trying to read text printed on a mirror. My own face distracted me, lol. (And although you can adjust the brightness on the iPad, there's still a glare issue if you're out in the sun or something.) But, I've used the Paperwhite in a variety of different conditions (bright lighting, low lighting, outdoors, in cars, etc.) with absolutely no problem. If it's not perfectly clear, all you need to do is adjust the light and you're all set.

The Paperwhite does sync with your Kindle library. I had been using the Kindle app on my iPad for a while, so I had fortunately already built up quite an extensive Kindle library already, so my Paperwhite was already full of books on day one.

Overall, I definitely would recommend the Kindle Paperwhite. Its touch screen works great, no glare, has an adjustable light for night reading, very lightweight, and can fit in my purse (and in some cases, even my pockets)! Once again, I love it. :)


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Shawna (shapineapple) I agree, the iPad is great for having access to different book apps and formats! I also use all the apps you mentioned. But so far, I really do feel that my eyes are more comfortable reading with the Kindle. And it just feels more book-like in general to me, which allows me to get more absorbed in the book. Reading on the iPad, I kind of seemed to have trouble really getting into my books, because a voice would always be floating around in the back of my mind, saying "you're killing your eeeeyes, you're killing your eeeeeeyes!" lol

The light thing is a good question! And interestingly enough...no, it doesn't. I've tried looking for an "off" button myself, to no avail. I just googled it to make sure I wasn't just missing some vital piece of information and sure enough, it's confirmed that the light never actually FULLY turns off. It only dims to a point where it LOOKS like it's off if you're in a lighted area. But, if you're in the dark, you can still see that the light is on. I'm hoping there'll be an update in the future to add an "off" button, because having the light on (regardless of whether it's noticeable or not) when you don't actually need it just seems unnecessary to me.


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Mike | 9 comments I heard that when they first came out people complained about there being lines of color across the screen is that still a problem?


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L.A. Hilden (Lahilden) | 106 comments I ordered my paperwhite and it's on it's way. I had no idea the light never goes off. That seems like it would be a big drain on the battery, but I'm looking forward to seeing the difference from the keyboard version that I have now. My book reading light I attach to my current Kindle always has a glare and it is too bright to read while others are sleeping, so I'm hoping the paperwhite is the solution.


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Rich Weiss (RichWriter) | 2 comments I still have my Kindle Keyboard 3G and will not part with it, even though the Kindle Paperwhite is tempting. I have a cover with a built in light for reading at night. In this regard, the Paperwhite is better; there's not weight from a cover with a light, or any need for a light, other than one built into the screen. For my purposes, however, I find it important to search the web and/or check my email even away from a Wifi source. The Paperwhite 3G does NOT have this capability, 3G is limited to Wikipedia and book downloads. This seems to be a factor not readily advertised by Amazon. Although I have a smartphone with Internet access, battery life is an issue; going online on my Kindle doesn't pose a problem with limited battery, my Kindle stays charged for weeks at a time.


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Rob Mars (robmars) | 4 comments Thanks to all for the informative opinions on Paperwhite, you have convinced me to switch from my Keyboard Kindle to this one.


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Grampy (goodreadscomGrampy) Rob wrote: "Thanks to all for the informative opinions on Paperwhite, you have convinced me to switch from my Keyboard Kindle to this one."

Rob - If you're convinced to switch, I may be too late with this, but I feel a need to talk about the "Touch" aspect of the newer Kindles.

I had the second generation keyboard Kindle with 3G for more than 2 years, and never had a problem until I dropped it one day. Even then the "problem" was just a gray bar across the top, about 1/2" wide. But on Jan 1, 2012, I ordered a Kindle Touch.

On Sept 3, 2012, Amazon replaced it with another Touch because the first one quit working; they declared it defective.

On about Dec 1, 2012, (yes, a couple weeks ago) my second Touch went belly up, and Amazon sent me a third Touch. This one had problems right out of the box, which they were able to fix over the phone.

However, it is now Dec 17, 2012, and this 3rd Kindle Touch in less than a year is exhibiting the same problems my first two "defective" units displayed.

The problem is this: the unit will quit responding, so I reboot it. This sets it back to working for awhile, but after a number of reboots, it suddenly just will not ever come back on. It just shows the screen image of the tree on a hill with a reader under the tree, and the word "Kindle" up above.

No support staff suggestions would make it complete the reboot. This newest one is already taking several hours to complete a reboot, so I know it won't last much longer.

These have all been just the plain "Touch", NOT the Paper White Touch, but I assume the Touch technology will be the same.

I just wish I'd never dropped my original Kindle. But I honestly, sincerely hope you have absolutely no problems with your Paper White, and that it is everything you hoped it would be.


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message 17: by Grampy (last edited Dec 24, 2012 09:41PM) (new)

Grampy (goodreadscomGrampy) Debbie (Debbie Rice) wrote: "@Grampy--Would Amazon send you a 3G keyboard kindle this time instead? It was probably already a staff suggestion, but if your touch has a hole in the bottom like the keyboard one and various hand..."


Debbie - That seems like a perfectly logical solution, doesn't it? I wrote that on Dec 17 this third Touch was STARTING to show some of the same symptoms, etc. Well, on Dec 22 it went belly up, just like the others. I specifically requested that I would gladly pay the additional $40 to get the Keyboard with 3G instead, but Rahul C. said "nobody can make you that deal". After very frustrating chatting for over an hour, during which time Rahul C. NEVER directly answered any of my questions, I finally told him to just send me another defective Touch. I told him I'd try to sell it and use the money to buy a Nook. I also took their standard "Did we solve your problem" questionaire, and answered "no", then went into great detail about what I proposed, and why it was poor policy to just keep sending out defective units. I guess they'll just keep doing that until the warehouse is empty, because they apparently do not sell the plain Touch anymore. Today I got another email from somebody in response to my response to their questionaire. This person said that "after reading thru my initial contact, it was obvious I got unsatisfactory service, and that was unacceptable to Amazon." He then proceeded to tell me my Touch needs to be replaced, because it sounds defective! He told me to contact the Chat option (again) and they would gladly send me a knew replacement Touch! Nothing in this second response was any different than what the first guy said, and it was also fairly obvious he didn't really read anything I wrote.

So, once again, I will have another defective Touch replaced, with guaranteed delivery on Dec 27. I wonder if it'll last until New Year's Day?

Oh, in answer to your question, there is no reset hole on the Touch. It is rebooted by holding down the on/off switch for 20 seconds. There is also a menu option to Restart, but it has to actually be working for you to use that one. And there is a "Reset to Factory Default" option, but that one deletes every single book you've loaded on it! Not sure why anyone would do that, unless they were selling their device and didn't want the buyer to see all the porn they bought! Just a guess...

Well, I'm done ranting. It IS Christmas Eve, after all, so I should be happy and cheerful, right? My big concern right now is, if I buy a Nook, what will I do with the 8,500 mobi books I have??? Oh, well.


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Shomeret | 135 comments This sounds truly awful. I don't want a Touch at all. If I had a Kindle Keyboard (which I do intend to get soon with my AARP discount), and it needed to be replaced, they would only get to replace it with a Touch once. After that, Amazon would lose my business.


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J.C. Harker (jcharker) | 3 comments @Shomeret, I must say I felt the same about the keyboard, but was really surprised with the touch one on my Paperwhite Christmas present :) It felt more responsive than my 3G kindle cover (which isn't the fastest thing to take notes on...).

I wanted the Paperwhite for the light functionality and it really delivers on that. It is a very soft glow that doesn't strain the eyes and works well with the eink (big fan of that, wouldn't switch to a lcd tablet for reading). It's nice that you can adjust the amount of light, just as I like to have a small font to fit more on the screen, I use quite a dim setting to read in bed.

So to answer the original question of this thread. I love the new Paperwhite and have upgraded from an old 3G keyboard kindle too. :)


message 21: by Grampy (new)

Grampy (goodreadscomGrampy) Debbie (Debbie Rice) wrote: "@Grampy, reset to factory default sounds wrong because I think the problem is likely in one of the firmware updates (reset to default and you get to download again). You don't exactly lose your bo..."

I think that's correct, now that I think about it. All I remembered was when I clicked on that option, a warning message popped up, saying I would lose everything on the Kindle, but that doesn't mean I would lose anything from the archives. But you are also right in saying reloading everything from the archive can be irritating. Especially since I have more than 8,500 books in the archive! Just figuring out which ones I've already read and which ones I still want to read is a nightmare, because I don't really pay much attention to titles, once I start reading a book. If I really like it a lot and want to recommend it, I'll make an effort to remember the title, but if it's just an average book that I archived as soon as I finished it, I wouldn't remember the title even a few hours later!

There's a new chapter to this ongoing saga, though. The "Guaranteed Delivery" date was today, but nothing was delivered.

I sure miss my Keyboard with 3G!


message 22: by Grampy (new)

Grampy (goodreadscomGrampy) Shomeret wrote: "This sounds truly awful. I don't want a Touch at all. If I had a Kindle Keyboard (which I do intend to get soon with my AARP discount), and it needed to be replaced, they would only get to replac..."

PLEASE... tell me about this AARP discount! That's not something I had noticed in any of my AARP stuff, but I tend to just skim through a lot of the lists of perks they periodically send. Do you think I could find out about it on the AARP website? A discount could make a HUGE difference in what my next move will be! Thanks,

Grampy


message 23: by Shomeret (last edited Dec 27, 2012 07:02PM) (new)

Shomeret | 135 comments Grampy wrote: "Shomeret wrote: "This sounds truly awful. I don't want a Touch at all. If I had a Kindle Keyboard (which I do intend to get soon with my AARP discount), and it needed to be replaced, they would o..."

I got an e-mail from AARP about it, but it's on the website. I'll PM you with the link.


message 24: by L.A. (last edited Dec 30, 2012 07:15PM) (new) - added it

L.A. Hilden (Lahilden) | 106 comments I've been using my Paperwhite from Christmas and I'm very happy with it. If you tap on the Loc# at the bottom, it tells you how many minutes you have left to read in the chapter and how much longer it will take you to read the book at the rate you are reading. I like this function since sometimes I become tired and want to finish the chapter and now I know how many more minutes that will take me. I read while my husband was sleeping and the lighting was great. Of course I'm keeping my keyboard Kindle, but so far, loving it!.


message 25: by Andrew (new)

Andrew Fish | 43 comments I bought a Paperwhite back in November and have been very happy with it thus far. Battery life is shorter than on the Touch, but it still managed about six weeks of reading on the commute before it nagged me to recharge. I suspect turning the light all the way off would extend it considerably. The timing thing is good too - lets me know when I need to buy another book.


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