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Ashley Williams | 8 comments Do you tell people you read VF novels?

Is it a hush hush secret only your husband or boyfriend finds you curled up with hot men on the covers? He can't complain when the foreplay is done for him..

It's why I am here since real life family and friends, in my mind, would laugh at my need to read smut fantasy novels. Is this community your place to be free with your interests in VF books?

I almost envy Ebook readers so people around you don't know what your reading by the lack of covers showing. Maybe I just need to upgrade so I don't feel like I am hiding my obsession as much when I no longer have to bend the spine of paperbacks obscenely.


message 2: by Witchie (new)

Witchie (Bitchie) Everyone who knows me know I read a lot, and everyone knows what I read. Well, mostly, I'm still kinda in the closet about the Gay Romance to some people.


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Leesa (leesalogic) I use bookcovers when I take my book with me. It isn't to hide the covers from curious eyes, though I found that does help. I did it because one time I borrowed a friends book, and with me shoving it in my purse, taking it out, etc. it looked beat up. I was so embarrassed I went ahead and bought him a new book and from then on I use covers.


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Anna Neal (annaneal) | 66 comments I like this question. I am not ashamed of the books I read in this book club, so I go around trying to talk with everyone about them.

I have never had a positive reaction to it though. Even female friends who I know have read and loved, Poison Study for instance, give me the cold shoulder. WTF!

Why won't anyone else admit to loving these books and discuss them with me? Maybe I'm just not a good sales person.

So this is why this forum is pretty much the only one I've ever been active on. I need to discuss these books with someone, they are awesome.


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Pandora Bleue (PandoraBleue) | 5 comments Heck yes, I do! Maybe it's the age some of you are at where the whole erotica topic is like flashing someone in church. As you get older (like me), women get BOLDER and when one breaks the ice by declaring a topic like reading VF books, everyone chimes in, without embarassment or apology. Hang in there. It gets better as we age. What do you think all those grandmas were laughing about in the kitchen while they cooked the holiday meals? You can bet your vibrator it wasn't the size of the drumstick! Pandora Bleue


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Ashley Williams | 8 comments I am glad you mentioned covers for the books, haven't stepped into a real book store in a few years, forgot they sell them. Cute prints too!


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@Pandora haha excellent growing old disgracefully.


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Kathryn Weis | 60 comments Pandora wrote: "Heck yes, I do! Maybe it's the age some of you are at where the whole erotica topic is like flashing someone in church. As you get older (like me), women get BOLDER and when one breaks the ice by ..."

My grandmother has always read smutty romance. It wasn't until I was a teenager that I realized the huge bookshelves she had overflowing were full of Harlequin! :-P

I've always loved to read, and have loved erotica and VF and romance since I was 17/18 and have no shame there. Some of my friends chuckle at me when I tell them what I'm reading but I've never felt judged by it. Fifty Shades (uuugh!)seems to have made it more popular to read erotica/romance lately though. People I know who aren't readers have read it...


Crankyfacedknitter | 27 comments I tell some people. Sometimes people ask, and if I'm feeling saucy I'll be honest. I always worry about "breaking" the conversation by bringing up the genre, as the people I hang out with just don't know what to say when confronted by it. However, they tend to not read much of anything anyway, so I get the same bland response no matter what I tell them I'm reading, even if it's literarily impressive. Humph.


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Aimee Springer (Minella) | 4 comments I don't really tell people about these types of books. I'm a bit shy and reserved when it comes to my interests, so if someone asks what I am reading I just say "It's a Romance novel".

Luckily for me I read mainly on my tablet, so there are no covers for anyone to see.


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Amanda | 20 comments Crankyfacedknitter wrote: "I tell some people. Sometimes people ask, and if I'm feeling saucy I'll be honest. I always worry about "breaking" the conversation by bringing up the genre, as the people I hang out with just don'..."

I know what you mean. I'm new at my current job and I just couldn't bring myself to talk about what I was really reading even though it was a great book. Even at libraries I used to work at people who didn't already read the genre kind of shut down when you start going into lighter sci-fi or fantasy, so I'd never make it to talking about vaginal fantasy.

I don't mind talking about the Vaginal Fantasy type reads so much because the plots are often more interesting/detailed. I do not publicize my love of Scottish Highlander historical romance because although I will admit to myself that I only read them for the sexy times (with kilts!)...I have a hard time admitting it to others.


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Eliste | 111 comments I tell everybody. I even try to make more people read the books.


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Lisa Swarm | 1 comments After I got my e-reader I found it easier to read the genre in public. I will still read a hard copy VF book in public, but people make me feel like I have to joke about my reading a smut book.


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Jon  | 91 comments I'm not ashamed by the books I read at all, but being a man the reaction to my reading romance / smut can be fairly dramatic. As a consequence I don't tend to speak about what i'm reading unless specifically asked.
Not through shame, I don't want to deal with the aggro.


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Raquel (UberGeekyGirl) | 19 comments I admit at first I was a little ashamed of reading these books. The more I've been reading them and loving them the more I tell people happily about the books I'm reading and Vaginal Fantasy! Joining this club was really good for me and I absolutely love it. Thanks Vaginal Fantasy!


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Mike | 34 comments One way i look at it is books are a gauge of a lady's desires. Taboos aren't easily broached during conversations so having insight into their preferred reading leads to more relaxed and enjoyable interactions. Also, the crap stereotypes don't do the books justice. If it wasn't for this cool club i'd probably remain happily ignorant. And not 'cause i want to but because "reading" through video games is more enjoyable for me (i can barely count how many times i've played through the Mass Effect series completely to see all the interactions first-hand; was a big Choose Your Own Adventure reader when younger and love Ad Libs).

I read what y'all saying about socially-conscience people. Unfortunately, gossip has some huge faults so opening up too much seems problematic. If someone comes off as overly-offended, i say, treasure the moment you can pay them a house visit. It'll give you a chance to peruse through their books. And you never know, there might be one boring book, when pulled, which'll yield the largest treasure trove of bedstand smut you've ever been blessed to witness. Then you can say something like "Isn't Lestat great?", sparking a flood of recommended reads over blushing descriptions.


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Nicole (LunaKaos) | 165 comments I'm not a very secret person. I tell everyone about the bookclub and about the books I read.
I have never really been socially conscience though embarrasing other people over what I will openly discuss. My mum even told me not to share so much with her.

However I am glad I have an e-reader as the bookstores here are few and far between, and the ones that are here are rather small.


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Dajinxed1 | 95 comments I can't say I ever kept my reading predilections a secret.

I'm a gal that finds it easier to make friends with guys than other gals. So it was always fun to watch guys blush or turn away when I was reading my latest book with the super smexy covers on.

Thinking back on it now though I find it hilarious how many men I got started reading romance on the sly.

They would occasionally come to me and start the dreaded, " Hey your a girl right..." conversations and I could always lend them a romance book to help them out.

The red faced, glassy eyed looks when they would bring the book back and ask with a silly grin if I had any others always left me snickering when they said their girlfriend just LOVED the new ideas they had...


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Sarah (SarahInova) | 11 comments I definitely keep my VF books as secret as possible. Especially since I had so many guy friends that would be all "Hey watcha reading?" And I would say something like Sci-fi, and then they'd seem to relax and say, "Oh, good. For a second I thought you were reading a romance and that would just be way too girly for you."

Only a very few friends of mine know that I read erotica and smutty fantasy novels on my ereader. The other friends just think that I'm so superstitious about books that If I tell them what I'm reading while reading it it'll end up being a bad book.


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Becca (herblackwings29) | 84 comments My family knows my reading preferences, especially mother and aunt since we read a lot of the same things. I don't think it's really a secret and if I think someone will enjoy it I recommend VF books occasionally.


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Celine | 25 comments I'm less secretive about reading VF than watching porn, but overall still pretty secretive about it, I guess.


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Lindsay | 19 comments I like to follow the "dont ask, dont tell" rule. If no one ever asks me what kind of books I read(which they usually dont) then no one will ever know. If they want to know, then I will tell them.


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Kamil | 938 comments Let me ask you a question? Are you ashamed of what you read? If you keep it a secret hobby then the answer is 'yes'. My relatives and friends know the kind of books I read and if they can't accept it, it's not my problem.


message 24: by Nicole (new)

Nicole (LunaKaos) | 165 comments I tell everyone about the vf books, but I also occasionally read erotica and tell whoever about it.
Actually had an interesting conversion with the bookstore guy about my "superior erotica" when I purchased Kushiels Dart.
However I do tend to buy most reads on Amazon as I don't want to have to get rid of the physical books when I don't like them.
I'm glad I bought White Trash Zombie book as its such a great cover.


message 25: by PointyEars42 (last edited Jan 02, 2013 05:10AM) (new)

PointyEars42 | 476 comments My post-festive season take on this is that telling people about VF is a fantastic way of weeding out the people you don't really want to talk to at parties. Flinches when I say "Vaginal" out loud? Thinks Fifty Shades was a smart/romantic/sexy? Dismisses books with a high romantic or sexual content as something for a bit of fun that you can't/shouldn't read critically? Please excuse me- I think they need my help in the kitchen...

On the other hand, saying "vaginal" out loud or laying a conversational trap for anyone who wants to criticise VF books is a great way to divert conversations away topics you don't want to hear about.

What I do lie about relentlessly is the number of BAD books I read. Regardless of genre, I heavily under-report the number of books I read and the amount of time I spend reading so that I never have to own up to how much utter shite I read, usually because I've only recently learnt how to lem a book without guilt. Ergh, and the amount of rubbish I've read because I've always compulsively read every new book in a series even if the series has been a waste of time since book 2! I'm happy to tell people how good the rest of The Iron Seas series is or that I've read things with covers like this Discreet Young Gentleman by M.J. Pearson but outside of GoodReads I pretend I've never read The Tommyknockers. Better to have to explain to a stranger at the punch bowl what a breeches-ripper or mis-located-hymen-syndrome is than have to admit you were still reading Steven King after his novels became as bad as the movies based on them.


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Justine | 56 comments I wouldn't pull out a VF book at school (I'm in a Masters program) - but otherwise I'm pretty shameless. I read About a Dragon on an airplane in December, without so much as a blush. My romance novels are right there on the bookshelves for all visitors to see. Although the only people who ever comment on them are those who wish to borrow one!


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Marjorie (MarjorieQuinn) | 118 comments I've been telling people I know about the VF. Christmas book discussion lead to someone I know joining the group. If I don't tell and my BF is there he will happily tell them I'm part of VF. He doesn't read the books but he seems to love how happy reading makes me. If it wasn't for VF I would probably never have picked up Romance and I always wanted to read more Fantasy but didn't know where to start.
I love this group because I don't think I would have ever read Steampunk and now I know I love Steampunk novels! I have picked up some Urban Fantasy that I don't think I would have ever looked twice at in the past. I want to spread this genre love. I still blush a bit or stutter when the Vaginal Fantasy name is mentioned. People seem to take the title of the group and let their imaginations run away with them. I must say I've felt smart. I am the one saying "what you think is partly right but these books have a lot more going for them then just smut".
Some of the smartest friends I know give me sideways glances about this book club but these people will happily tell me they've read Fifty Shades. So, why must I keep my smutty noves a secret? No. I will tell everyone that these novels are well written. I will keep telling people there is more to these fantasy novels that meets the eye candy on the cover.


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Jenn (jennplam) | 7 comments I choose my company because not all topics are appropriate for all settings (and tossing about the phrase "Vaginal Fantasy" isn't particularly office appropriate where I work), but I don't strive to keep anything I read secret from people I know. To keep it secret would make me feel like it's shameful or wrong. I tell my kids all the time that anything that gets people reading is a good thing, so I need to live up to that. Barriers and taboos will not be lessened so long as people continue to perpetuate them.

That said, I don't usually read books with saucy covers if I'm alone in public and never on the bus. Not because I'm ashamed or embarrassed, but as self-preservation from creeps.


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Tegan (joggiwagga) | 276 comments I tend to get a little shy about ordering the really blatantly saucy title/cover combo books through ILL b/c its my coworkers who are going to be giving it to me... the same ones who enjoy doing hysterical dramatic readings of the last page of the most ridiculous romance novels they can find. On the other hand, sometimes I want to order the most outrageous title I can to give them something to laugh about.


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Brittany (nerdyspinster) | 254 comments I tell people I read VF books. Most of the time it's to people who don't read books of any kind, so they kind get this glassy-eyed look when I do, but it's a nice way to weed out the folks I know I want to talk to or not. The only thing I don't tell a lot of people is that I like to read books in the Gay Romance genre, too. The one thing I don't need in my life is someone (family or stranger) judging me for enjoying romance novels about same sex couples. In fact, I think only one person even knows I like those books and she reads them too, so it's not a big deal. But, other than that, I keep that part of what I read hush-hush.


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Rose (RiversideRoseRevolver) | 16 comments I love telling people about reading VF. It's not so much about the books to me, but more about knowing that other people are reading the same thing I am. It's about having a community to discuss these books with. I've wanted to be in a book club for a long time, but it just never worked out. Not that I don't like reading smut. I love Kafka but I also love romance. There's nothing for me to be ashamed of, I suppose. If someone feels like teasing me about it, I assume that it's because they don't feel secure enough to let me be.


message 32: by Witchie (new)

Witchie (Bitchie) Everyone knows that I read, always have. Most people know that I read romance and urban fantasy type books. Not so many people know I read M/M romance (male/male) though. People can be a bit weird about that one.


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PointyEars42 | 476 comments Bitchie wrote: "Not so many people know I read M/M romance (male/male) though. People can be a bit weird about that one."

And then there's that moment when I had to explain what slash fan fiction and RPF were. You'll long for the days of being gawped at for reading M/M romances after you have that conversation in public.


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Julia (ollie03) Ashley wrote: "Do you tell people you read VF novels?

Is it a hush hush secret only your husband or boyfriend finds you curled up with hot men on the covers? He can't complain when the foreplay is done for him...."


Just because it's on an e-reader doesn't necessarily mean that all is safe. When I got my first Kindle, when they first came out, I kept looking over my shoulder to make sure no one was taking a peek, or if someone looked at me I would immediately start blushing :) ... Still happens on occasion...


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Rose (RiversideRoseRevolver) | 16 comments PointyEars42 wrote: "Bitchie wrote: "Not so many people know I read M/M romance (male/male) though. People can be a bit weird about that one."

And then there's that moment when I had to explain what slash fan fiction ..."


Okay I know what slash fanfic is, but what is RPF. (Judgement free, just really curious and google is failing me.)


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Witchie (Bitchie) PointyEars42 wrote: "Bitchie wrote: "Not so many people know I read M/M romance (male/male) though. People can be a bit weird about that one."

And then there's that moment when I had to explain what slash fan fiction ..."


*snort* Been there recently too. In my family, fanfic is easier for folks to understand than the m/m and slash. Deep south baptist family here.


Simone, RPF is real person fic. Basically, it's fictional stories people write starring real people. In other words, instead of a Twilight story about Edward and Bella, it might be a story about Robert Pattinson and the girl who can't act.

I recently heard about a girl who sold a RPF about some boy band. I've seen lots of fanfic starring the guys who play the guys in Supernatural.

RPF has never been my thing though, it feels a bit creepier to me than regular fanfic, but to each their own.


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PointyEars42 | 476 comments I feel creepy looking at the covers of celeb magazines when I'm in a waiting room...but I read RPF. Yes. I know. Most of what I've read seems to just borrow their good looks and famous names, so maybe I've just been lucky. The Doors of Time if you want to see what I mean.


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Witchie (Bitchie) PointyEars42 wrote: "I feel creepy looking at the covers of celeb magazines when I'm in a waiting room...but I read RPF. Yes. I know. Most of what I've read seems to just borrow their good looks and famous names, so ma..."

I've had that on my TBR for at least a year now, I'm sure I'll get to it eventually.


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Rose (RiversideRoseRevolver) | 16 comments Bitchie wrote: "PointyEars42 wrote: "Bitchie wrote: "Not so many people know I read M/M romance (male/male) though. People can be a bit weird about that one."

And then there's that moment when I had to explain wh..."


Oh! That makes so much more sense than Rwandan Patriotic Front. Ha ha. I don't see why people should judge for that. I mean, I don't feel interested in it, but there's nothing wrong with that. *shrugs*


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Ruby Black (Ruby_Black) Reading hot male covered books is definitely a secret. Afraid friends/bf will endless poke fun of me for reading smut b/c it does not match their high brow tastes ingrained into them during university.

I must of missed that brainwashing session.


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Brie (glitterbonbons) Ruby wrote: "Reading hot male covered books is definitely a secret. Afraid friends/bf will endless poke fun of me for reading smut b/c it does not match their high brow tastes ingrained into them during univers..."

And thank the universe for that! I didn't need that session of brainwashing anyway, I'm still recovering from years of Disney brainwashing and being on the look out for that idiot in tinfoil on a white donkey.


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Ruby Black (Ruby_Black) Brie wrote: "Ruby wrote: "Reading hot male covered books is definitely a secret. Afraid friends/bf will endless poke fun of me for reading smut b/c it does not match their high brow tastes ingrained into them d..."

Hahaha LOL ;) Always the way with words - love it! Classic!


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Brie (glitterbonbons) Ruby wrote: "Brie wrote: "Ruby wrote: "Reading hot male covered books is definitely a secret. Afraid friends/bf will endless poke fun of me for reading smut b/c it does not match their high brow tastes ingraine..."

Hehe, you know me :D

As far as hiding my book porn, oh no. I proudly read it on my lunch break in the middle of a crowded Subway store populated by men (just not the kind of men found in these smutty books, sadly).

Oh, it's also displayed in my home as if it were a precious piece of lost art. And frankly, attractive men seem to be a lost art.

Helloooo kilts!


message 44: by Ruby (new)

Ruby Black (Ruby_Black) Brie wrote: "Ruby wrote: "Brie wrote: "Ruby wrote: "Reading hot male covered books is definitely a secret. Afraid friends/bf will endless poke fun of me for reading smut b/c it does not match their high brow ta..."

I'm only brazen with my smut collection on GR! I'm gonna have to totally hide all the "bad" books when my parents visit lol

PS: Wish had a spell to bring those men out of those books. Hello, Mr. Hottie ;)


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Malin (MalinE) | 43 comments I've never been ashamed of reading fantasy or romance, and before I got an e-reader, I would have no choice but to take the books out in public with me. As I get a lot of reading done on public transport to and from work, I've shown some pretty interesting covers to the world over the years.

I will happily defend my reading choices to anyone who asks, I have a Master's Degree in History, with a minor in English Lit. I teach children to speak, read and write better every day. What I choose to read for entertainment is nobody's business but my own.


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Molly Huggins (mollyvirginia) | 10 comments I hid that I read them when I was younger, but now, I really do not care. I enjoy them and after all the heavy reading I have to do for school, I need some fluff and easy reading. My mama borrows them all once I am done, so really, there is nothing to worry about.


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Molly Huggins (mollyvirginia) | 10 comments Bitchie wrote: "Everyone who knows me know I read a lot, and everyone knows what I read. Well, mostly, I'm still kinda in the closet about the Gay Romance to some people."

Absolutely. My VF books are totally in the open, but I live in a small town in the South and was raised in a southern baptist family. My gay romance books and slash fanfic is always hidden with only a few friends knowing about it. Its too bad it is not more accepted; people's reactions make me uncomfortable, so I guess that might be my own problem.


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Vicky (librovert) | 493 comments Mod
I wouldn't say that I keep it a secret hobby. But it's not something I would put in my first introduction to someone.

I have had conversations about Vaginal Fantasy with my mom, my fiancee and several select friends with similar interests. I've also liked VF posts on Facebook and am active with the community on G+, so I know there are others who have seen it. But they don't ask and I don't tell.

I think with some people (my grandmother specifically comes to mind) I have the same attitude towards it as I do towards the fact that I know my parents had to have sex to have children, but I don't really want to talk to them about it.

On the other hand, I would have loved to talk Vaginal Fantasy with my maternal grandmother who passed away 14 years ago. I found out going through some of her old books that she was into harlequin type romances, but she was also huge into space travel, so it would have been fun to try to get her into something like Grimspace!


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Amanda Kendall (_pochemuchka_) | 45 comments I don't keep it a secret. I think VF books (and romance in general) are good palate cleansers between more intense or heavy books, and I've moved well passed the point in my life where I care what people think of my entertainment choices. Haters gonna hate and I'm just gonna sit here reading whatever I want. :)


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Corrina Lawson | 54 comments I don't feel guilty about anything I read. :)


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