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Carol/Bonadie (bonadie) | 7067 comments day three


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Sandi (sandin954) | 1063 comments Since I just had a Red Velvet Cupcake on Saturday morning instead of a full breakfast I was able to make it to the 9 a.m. panel called "The Pleasures and Perils of series sleuths" which consisted of Robin Burcell, Karin Slaughter, Reed Farrel Coleman, Michael Stanley, and Ben Coes. This was a very interesting panel and it was well moderated by David Magayna who I though looked familiar and it turns out I follow his reviews here on Goodreads. There was a slight problem at the end though, Reed Farrel Coleman somehow managed to fall off the back of the stage and cut his head. I heard others talking on Sunday that he needed between 7-11 stitches but he seemed to be OK.

Then it was off to what is always one of the best panels of the conference, titled "Heroes and Villains" this year. Mark Billingham usually moderates and Karin Slaughter and John Connolly are always fellow panelist when they attend. Also on the panel this year were Martyn Waites and Alafair Burke. Mark started the proceedings with his villains of the past year being the authors who use fake names to post bad reviews at Amazon of their seeming competition and then posting glowing reviews of their own work. I think Alafair Burke is far too nice because the only villain she could come up with was her next door neighbor for borrowing some butter and then not sharing the cookies she had baked with it. Big thanks to Jan for saving seats for Carol and me since this panel is always standing room only.

I then took off for lunch and rode the bus over to Palookaville Chili and had their chicken verde chili over some corn bread which was very tasty. Then it was back to the conference to catch the "Across the Pond" panel since I really wanted to see Stuart Neville and Val McDermid. Also on the panel were Peter James and Rhys Bowen who handled the moderating duties.

I then attended a Guest of Honor event which was Elizabeth George being interviewed by Deborah Crombie. Both have been two of my favorite authors but I have fallen behind on their series but this talk perked my interest back up.

After that, it was back to the room for a rest until meeting Carol for dinner at Michael Symon's restaurant Lola. Then Carol steered us to the Horseshoe Casino where I promptly lost $ 27 in what seemed liked ten seconds.


message 3: by Ann (new)

Ann (annrumsey) | 12703 comments Sandi: Thanks for the report!
The panels sound terrific -- a veritable who's who of some of my favorite authors!


message 4: by Carol/Bonadie (last edited Oct 10, 2012 10:36PM) (new)

Carol/Bonadie (bonadie) | 7067 comments I mustof been shadowing Sandi for most of the day as I was at all of the above seminars plus one I attended while she and Jeff were galavanting across Cleveland in search of the world’s best chili.

I’ll add a couple of things about “The Perils and Pleasures of Series Sleuths.” Michael Sears’s was also there -- I believe the name represents two authors who write a series about a Botswana police officer. I also think they are buddies of our Jan from Portland. Karin Slaughter said something I loved and wrote down: “We all have secrets about our characters that we will never tell you.” And Reed went on a rant I won’t soon forget, against authors who create a “psycho ex-machina” sidekick who does the dirtywork, thus relieving the hero of having to make morally questionable choices. He specifically mentioned Easy Rawlins’ “Mouse”, but we can all think of other examples from much loved writers. I thought of this rant again today as I was listening to the final chapters of James Lee Burke's Creole Belle. Clete Purcell certainly serves this purpose for Dave Robicheaux, although one could debate the “psycho” piece.

In “What a Character” panelists discussed how they create their characters and whether they are real people or made up. We heard from Charlaine Harris, Elizabeth George,
Brad Parks, Daniel Palmer (son of Michael Palmer) and Alison Gaylin. I was so riveted that I only took a couple of notes. Elizabeth George creates an outline and sketches out her characters in advance before she begins the story. Alison Gaylin has created a character who remembers every thing (a rare condition that only a dozen or so known people in the world have... I remember Marilu Henner being profiled on 60 minutes for this). Alison said she was fascinated with the other side of this -- the inability to forget things, which she thought must be the worst fate ever.

A couple of notes from the interview of Elizabeth George by Deborah Crombie. (btw, I thought this was an inspired pairing since they are both American authors who write series that take place in England.) Elizabeth mentioned that her fascination with British culture comes from the fact that early on she was inundated with English pop culture, when a girl from England moved nearby. She started writing at the age of 7. She doesn’t like series where there is no personal growth with the characters, which is why she makes sure her characters grow over time. She also likes to write about a significant event in England and then build a story around it.

Amusing phrase on T shirts and book bags being sold in the Book Room..... “Read a Damn Book.” I was later told that these are sold on the web site www.readadamnbook.com. Guess who will be visiting there soon.....

Saturday we ate at celebrity chef Michael Symon’s restaurant “Lola Bistro.” I had short ribs that were fall-off-the-bone tender. Sandi and Jeff graciously humoured me in my desire to take a swing through the casino. I’d had my eyes on it but I read too many thrillers to think wandering through the casino, dropping change, and leaving to walk the two deserted blocks to the hotel alone was a good idea. Being a much more seasoned slots player than Sandi, it took me almost fifteen minutes to lose almost twice as much money.


message 5: by Ann (new)

Ann (annrumsey) | 12703 comments Wow, Carol! What interesting details!
Thanks so much for sharing them. The interplay between the authors is fascinating. I get the intent and reason for Reed's rant but sometimes the "heavy muscle sidekick" doesn't always save the hero from making questionable moral choices.
Carol/Bonadie wrote: "I mustof been shadowing Sandi for most of the day as I was at all of the above seminars plus one I attended while she and Jeff were galavanting across Cleveland in search of the world’s best chili. ..... Reed went on a rant I won’t soon forget, against authors who create a “psycho ex-machina” sidekick who does the dirtywork, thus relieving the hero of having to make morally questionable choices. He specifically mentioned Easy Rawlins’ “Mouse”, but we can all think of other examples from much loved writers. I thought of this rant again today as I was listening to the final chapters of James Lee Burke's Creole Belle. Clete Purcell certainly serves this purpose for Dave Robicheaux, although one could debate the “psycho” piece...."


message 6: by Donnajo (new)

Donnajo | 3257 comments thanks ladies for your eye witness reports. Love reading them. it makes me want to go to the New jersey romance book convention when it comes to the area but when looked last year the signup was high and going just for the book fair wasn't worth the trip since it was only 1 hour long. and it would probably take 1 hour to get there. but maybe I'll look again this year and depending on when it is. who knows. it's been awhile since I went to a booksigning. not that I've seen many that I felt like going too.


message 7: by Barry (new)

Barry (barrypz) | 2692 comments Just checked the website for the 2013 Albany Bouchercon. I think I missed the early registration deadline.



Join us in Albany, NY, at the Empire State Plaza September 19-22, 2013 for the 44th Bouchercon, the world’s leading convention for crime fiction readers, writers and others.

We’ll be honoring our guests Sue Grafton, P.C. Doherty, Tess Gerritsen, Steve Hamilton and more….

Early registration only $125 through December 31, 2011 – go to www.regonline.com/bcon2013 to register online, or download the registration form here.

Hotel rates at our six bloc hotels will range from $119-155.

Hope to see you in Albany in 2013!


message 8: by Barry (new)

Barry (barrypz) | 2692 comments The registration form changes both the price and due date.

Save with earlybird registration only $150 thru December 31, 2012. If you have to cancel up to August 15, 2013, we'll give you all your money back! And always no charge for substituting another attendee in your place.


message 9: by Carol/Bonadie (last edited Oct 13, 2012 06:58AM) (new)

Carol/Bonadie (bonadie) | 7067 comments Barry wrote: "The registration form changes both the price and due date.

Save with earlybird registration only $150 thru December 31, 2012. If you have to cancel up to August 15, 2013, we'll give you all you..."


Hmm. It might be worth it to save the $25 if I can cancel and get full money back. My going will ultimately depend on how many folks I know are going. It's more fun with more going. But it is important for them to get the location right! The thing I don't want to miss out on is staying at the conference hotel at the conference rate.


message 10: by Barry (new)

Barry (barrypz) | 2692 comments Let me know when you are ready to book. Then you can be assured that somebody will be there to misinterpret and report on your every move.


message 11: by Carol/Bonadie (new)

Carol/Bonadie (bonadie) | 7067 comments Barry wrote: "Let me know when you are ready to book. Then you can be assured that somebody will be there to misinterpret and report on your every move."

Oh joy. Just what I need, Dan's surrogate on the scene.

Ann, Sherry, Melodie, Sandi, Mary, Jan, anybody, help!!!!!


message 12: by Dan in AZ (new)

Dan in AZ | 2442 comments Barry wrote: "Let me know when you are ready to book. Then you can be assured that somebody will be there to misinterpret and report on your every move."

Carol wrote: Oh joy. Just what I need, Dan's surrogate on the scene.

My man!


message 13: by Sherry (new)

Sherry  | 3200 comments Carol/Bonadie wrote: "Barry wrote: "Let me know when you are ready to book. Then you can be assured that somebody will be there to misinterpret and report on your every move."

Oh joy. Just what I need, Dan's surrogat..."


well, barry, just remember that the opposite is also true. we'll be there to report and totally misinterpret your every move, too. there will be more of us than you, right ,carol?


message 14: by Melodie (new)

Melodie (melodieco) | 3425 comments Carol/Bonadie wrote: "Barry wrote: "Let me know when you are ready to book. Then you can be assured that somebody will be there to misinterpret and report on your every move."

Oh joy. Just what I need, Dan's surrogat..."


Since I had to forget the idea of going this year with goings-on at work, I'm really thinking I'd like to make this one. I've never been to NY....anywhere in NY! And meeting Sherry & Barry would be a definite treat! (Sherry: Got OFF THE GRID! Many thanks! I'll post when I'm done so someone else can read it!)


message 15: by Barry (new)

Barry (barrypz) | 2692 comments ...well, barry, just remember that the opposite is also true. we'll be there to report and totally misinterpret your every move, too. there will be more of us than you, right ,carol?

I plan on being so outrageous that you will have to tone it down just to be believed.


message 16: by Sherry (new)

Sherry  | 3200 comments Melodie wrote: "Carol/Bonadie wrote: "Barry wrote: "Let me know when you are ready to book. Then you can be assured that somebody will be there to misinterpret and report on your every move."

Oh joy. Just what ..."


glad you got the book, mel. you can actually thank barry- it's his book


message 17: by Melodie (new)

Melodie (melodieco) | 3425 comments Thanks, Barry!!


message 18: by Barry (new)

Barry (barrypz) | 2692 comments Melodie wrote: "Thanks, Barry!!"
my pleasure.


message 19: by Carol/Bonadie (new)

Carol/Bonadie (bonadie) | 7067 comments Sherry wrote: "
well, barry, just remember that the opposite is also true. we'll be there to report and totally misinterpret your every move, too. there will be more of us than you, right ,carol? ..."


Correct, Sherry. And if there is nothing to totally misinterpret and report, I am happy to make stuff up.


message 20: by Carol/Bonadie (new)

Carol/Bonadie (bonadie) | 7067 comments Melodie wrote: "And meeting Sherry & Barry would be a definite treat! ..."

what am I, chopped liver?!?


message 21: by Carol/Bonadie (new)

Carol/Bonadie (bonadie) | 7067 comments Barry wrote: "...
I plan on being so outrageous that you will have to tone it down just to be believed. ..."


hah! that I would like to see.


message 22: by Colleen (new)

Colleen (crynski) | 17 comments I am already registered for 2013, waiting for the hotel discount codes to go live on the website. I usually go for the confrence hotel but I think in Long Beach 2014 I will be across the street at the Mariott hotel (mariott reward points and it is literally across the street from the convention hotel).


message 23: by Carol/Bonadie (new)

Carol/Bonadie (bonadie) | 7067 comments Colleen wrote: I am already registered for 2013, waiting for the hotel discount codes to go live on the website. I usually go for the confrence hotel but I think in Long Beach 2014 I will be across the street at the Mariott hotel (mariott reward points and it is literally across the street from the convention hotel). ..."

I realized today that I have only been at the conference hotel once (Baltimore). What I like about being at the non-conference hotel is that it gives me the opportunity to get a little exercise and fresh air walking back and forth to the hotel. Plus, it's less hectic. The conference hotel is a mob scene with everyone milling about and packing the hotel bars and restaurants. But I didn't like the walk back to my hotel at night (Sandi and Jeff were kind enough to offer to accompany me). Plus I had to get up early if I wanted to get the free continental breakfast at the hospitality suite. By the time I got there stuff was picked over (or just plain gone!).


message 24: by Melodie (new)

Melodie (melodieco) | 3425 comments Carol/Bonadie wrote: "Melodie wrote: "And meeting Sherry & Barry would be a definite treat! ..."

what am I, chopped liver?!?"


You KNOW that's the biggest enticement of all...seeing you again! Maybe I could get Ed to come along,too. He's always asking about you! Is there much to do in Albany.....I'd hate to have to listen to him whine because "there's nothing to do!" LOL


message 25: by Barry (new)

Barry (barrypz) | 2692 comments ...what am I, chopped liver?!?

I would have at least elevated you to pate.


message 26: by Carol/Bonadie (new)

Carol/Bonadie (bonadie) | 7067 comments Melodie wrote: "You KNOW that's the biggest enticement of all...seeing you again! Maybe I could get Ed to come along,too. He's always asking about you! Is there much to do in Albany.....I'd hate to have to listen to him whine because "there's nothing to do!" LOL
..."


Seeing the both of you in Albany would be the icing on the cake! The B-con people do a good job of pointing out the local sights, plus Sandi and Jeff usually have a few good ideas, as Jeff is on his own during the day also. We may have to start now, however, LOL. I'm not sure Jeff felt fully occupied in Cleveland, although he and Sandi both said St. Louis was the low point of sight-seeing...


message 27: by Carol/Bonadie (new)

Carol/Bonadie (bonadie) | 7067 comments Barry wrote: "...what am I, chopped liver?!?

I would have at least elevated you to pate."


Thanks, Barry, this is just the sort of mood lift I came online in search of after watching Seattle steal one from the Patriots.


message 28: by Colleen (new)

Colleen (crynski) | 17 comments Carol
RE: readadamnbook.com

I bought two of the tshirts (black sold out very quickly at the convention). One for me, one for my roommate. I know a couple people on my Christmas list may be getting one as well.


message 29: by Carol/Bonadie (new)

Carol/Bonadie (bonadie) | 7067 comments Colleen, thanks for the reminder. I would have wanted a black one also. And great idea about Christmas presents -- it would be perfect for that hard-to-shop-for recipient.


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