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It's so much better than other teen books :)
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Breaking Dawn has an icky part?
I haven't read it since it came out, so maybe I'm forgetting something. But since she doesn't describe anything and leaves it to your imagination (if you even want to imagine it... ew) than it's basically defined as clean. It's so much cleaner than normal teen books.
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Why do you say that it sucks?
I heard that the Charlie Bone series was a rip-off of the Harry Potter series? Or maybe it was a different series that I'm thinking about... -scratches head-
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But don't worry - you're not the first person that I've met online that doesn't like Twilight. Everyone I know in real life, however, loves it xD I got them all into it, though. I got our entire ward into it, in fact. I started reading it and recommended it. Our relief society/book club went to see the midnight premiere of the movie together ^^ It was really fun!
Jayda wrote: "Twilight so does not suck xD
Why do you say that it sucks?
I heard that the Charlie Bone series was a rip-off of the Harry Potter series? Or maybe it was a different series that I'm thinking a..."
I like the charlie bone sires, and not really, I mean yes born with magic, must fight off an enemy with evil son, but it's different. then again, I read it in 4th grade easy.
Why do you say that it sucks?
I heard that the Charlie Bone series was a rip-off of the Harry Potter series? Or maybe it was a different series that I'm thinking a..."
I like the charlie bone sires, and not really, I mean yes born with magic, must fight off an enemy with evil son, but it's different. then again, I read it in 4th grade easy.
Jayda wrote: "That's interesting...Breaking Dawn has an icky part?
I haven't read it since it came out, so maybe I'm forgetting something. But since she doesn't describe anything and leaves it to your imagi..."
SO just because its just better doesnt mean its good!
Twilight. no. *shakes head violently* Pellinor is clean, The Hunger Games is clean, altho, it's pretty violent mehehehe..... hmm wat else? *thinks*
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I love Twilight <3 But I also see that it does have flaws. And I have my qualms with it, so I'm a Twi-Hard who accepts the difficult facts that Twilight is not perfect, and is probably never going to be better than Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I love Buffy, too.
I say things in confuzzling ways.
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Breaking Dawn has an icky part?
I haven't read it since it came out, so maybe I'm forgetting something. But since she doesn't describe anything and leaves it..."
She leaves it to your imagination...
There isn't anything wrong with that. And its not like everyone doesn't know what is going on and what they're doing.
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That's where they get it...
Jayda wrote: "That's interesting...Breaking Dawn has an icky part?
I haven't read it since it came out, so maybe I'm forgetting something. But since she doesn't describe anything and leaves it to your imagi..."
It doesn't really have an icky part. You're aware whats happening, but it's not going into detail.
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Okay, about the Twilight series--It's really not that clean or different from other books (in my opinion). Go that one school where you can't read Breaking Dawn until 9th grade. I will say that it's really cool that Meyer wanted to "keep it clean" but the way she "leaves things to the imagination" is very suggestive and is just descriptive enough (sometimes in the past tense) that you can get a pretty good image (for me at least *shudder*). And the whole way they talk about it with the whole "I want to have sex with you before I'm a crazed vampire" and then Edward giving in when Bella finally decides to grow up- ordeal in Eclipse. Didn't think that was positively necessary. The part that mostly bothers me is how everyone treats Bella like a child, which is why New Moon is my absolute favorite (better not mess it up Chris). I also love Jacob because he treated her like a person, that is, until Edward came back and he started to compete for her like a possession. I love The Host with all my heart, but have to admit that there is a part (or two) that skims my personal line on what is clean (tounging gets a little gross. Personally I don't like the idea of the whole thing).
I, too, am aware that I am HIGHLY opinionated and apologize for that. Part of it is that I really loved them before the whole nation went crazy over them and I naturally don't like popular things so I started to get more critical. Everyone has their own view on what is clean and good, so please don't think that I'm judging anyone, I honestly was just stating an argument.
AH! I LOVE THE HUNGER GAMES!!! It's clean except for violence and kissing (no tounging ;), promise).
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In my point of view, Meyer deals with true teen issues without going across what the clean border should be. Leaving it to the imagination at least isn't describing what happened. So you can imagine it or not and it's your choice, rather than telling you exactly how they "did it".
One of the reasons why I write is to get through the tough things in life. Not my life personally, exactly, but for the average teenager. In my story Alive the couple in the chapter that I'm currently writing have a hard time pulling back. When you're in love with someone and you want to be with them forever (especially when you know you'll be married soon - my parents can testify to that) it's difficult to pull away. When you know you're soulmates and that you'll be with them for as long as you can you know that you'll do it eventually, so what's stopping you? That's where morals come into play.
I write about the tough things. In Alive I write about wanting to be closer to someone but having those morals that keep you from doing so. I deal with other things, too, like death and pain and hurt and abandonment. But Meyer dealt with the typical teenager (trust me, when you find someone that you love sex won't be as hard to think about it, if it doesn't happen before then) and wanting to have sex but deciding not to until marriage brilliantly. She could've let her editors get their way and add in that scene but she held her ground. At least it wasn't worse, right? ^^
I do see where you are coming from, I guess I personally read books to get away from those real life issues . Maybe that's why I get so fired up about Twilight...?Your book sounds really cool, I'd like to read it when it comes out. Being in an entirely different world and watching and FEELING someone else's emotions as they go through life's struggles is just... I don't know how to describe it. I guess that's why I like The Host so much. But books like that can also be a very dangerous tool when used in... other ways. And, for me, it can get a little too much (in that I'm sick of dealing with life kind of way ;)) sometimes and that's when I revert to my typical Jessica Day George and Shannon Hale romances :) I also enjoy writing as a relief to get away from the restraints of life, but I'm kind of embarrassed about it, dispite my friends saying they like my crazy ideas and messed up rough drafts, so I know what you mean about trying to show emotions and the struggles deep inside someone on their personal journey. I really love that kind of thing :> Sometimes it's hard to pull me away.
True, I do think that it could have been worse and I do admire Meyer with her taking a stand for her/our values. I donno, I'm still trying to figure out some of the things that bother me about it. I do agree with the bringing morals into play, because that is a key thing that our society is sadly lacking now. With out something to ground you how do you spread roots?
I'm sorry, does that make sense at all?
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OOOH! I LOVE HOW YOU WORDED THAT! "Without something to ground you how do you spread your roots?" That was so inspired! That was awesome xD I loved that. Yes, it made complete sense ^^ I loved it! ^^
You can actually read my story right here ^^ I've posted the first six chapters on here, so far. There are more to come (if I post them) but this is what I have done so far.
http://www.goodreads.com/story/show/4...
Feedback is greatly appreciated! ^^
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I strongly believe that Meyer was smart and sticking to her own standards, being a member and everything, with all the presure from everyone else out there editing/publishing.
The whole subject is fairly tough to decide the "clean v. not" in my opinion, but I think books like The Host and the whole Twilight series are pretty fair to it. Technically, if you think about it, the only CLEAN books out there consist of the doctor seuss books and the berstein bears and others like it. Books that are made for children who are innocent to the topic and who is they do know it, understand what it is and how it should be approached, i.e. after being married to someone you truely love.
As teenagers we should be able to cope with those topics since they are part of the society we live in. Now I'm not saying that it's allowed or that I'm up for it but that there is a point where it can be acceptable, and handled maturly.
And honestly, it could have been worse. I've read book with alot worse, and its not fun!
Wow, I think Audrey summed all that up pretty well. The whole teenagers coping with the topics of our society is so true and I get what you mean. Thanks for putting that into perspective. And I absolutely agree with you about the maturity part. I have too and it really isn't!! It just makes me feel so... down. Oh, and you can all call me Liz (it's easier to type and to say).Thanks Jayda! I was afraid that would make no sense, so thank you :> I appriciate it. Oh YAY!! I'll have to read it tomorrow or sometime. It's almost midnight here (wait... don't you live in Georgia too Jayda?) and, not that I'm apposed to staying up until all hours, I should probably go to sleep, considering I'm falling asleep while typing.
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Ok cool, I was going to but didn't know if I should ^^
Eek, I'm sorry! That would stink. Weirdly enough, my mom was the one who suggested them to me... *shakes head in confusion*
twilight is the best book it does not have anything bad in it, in my opinion the twilight series is the best in the world
ok me again does anyone know where in Germany I can find the book pretties? Help!
Oh my gosh. The book Specials is the most DEPRESSING book I think I've ever read. The Uglies trilogy is pretty awesome. I want to read the Midnighters. I've heard it's pretty good.
OH!! Btw. I read the six chapters of Alive and I seriously couldn't go to sleep I was thinking about it so much. Hurry up and finish it Jayda ;D
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I read it last night after I wrote that comment :) I loved the plot twist with her Aunt and how she doesn't share things with Parker. It's really amazing how much of the things you write are exactly like life. Haha I really do like it!!
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I really enjoyed "The Hunger Games" by Suzanne Collins. Jane Austen is always good, and so are the Bronte sisters. I don't know...it depends on how much you can tolerate.
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So The Hunger Games was a good one? I'm rather interested in that book.
I can go on and on about how amazing The Hunger Games is, but I would say not to read it until at LEAST August because the sequel doesn't come out until September 1st.
Elizabeth wrote: "Okay, about the Twilight series--It's really not that clean or different from other books (in my opinion). Go that one school where you can't read Breaking Dawn until 9th grade. I will say that ..."
I loved the books too BEFORE everyone else did, except when everybody else started to like them, I was like YES! now I'm not one of the only ones! :)
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She was the one who convinced me to read them
If you want really clean books then probably don't read Tamora Pierce they arent that clean but inall other ways AMAZING!
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They're way good... but yeah. Not nessacarily the best books lol
haha. i think they are the best books but not in the way of "clean-ness"
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I really enjoy them
so, uh, back to the favorite clean books topic here...i just finished "the blue sword" by robin mckinley. it is really fantastic. it feels very much like a fairy tale in the arabian nights sense, but mixed with a little e.m.forster.
i found the summaries online a bit confusing, though, since the girl protagonist is nicknamed harry!
and, i totally got suckered into reading twilight by a friend of mine, too! i kept wondering why everyone else was reading about vampires all the sudden. i mean, really... vampires?? come on. and now, oh edward!
I love harry potter books, those are really fabulous reads.
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Hahah that's kinda funny.
I hate Edward. He sucks. Literally, and figuratively.
The Harry Potter books are total classics!
They're the best.
I was thinking about reading that one. I also started to read Spindle's End but got lost around when they recited her 21 or whatever names. Beauty was really good though. Edward was...okay I guess, but he treats Bella like a child, and, honestly, she acts like one. (You probably can skip to the bottom of this paragraph if you want.) He's just too 'perfect' and 'beautiful', it gets on my nerves. He's also way too controling and manipulative, even if he doesn't realize it. But, I must admit, there are good things about him too. I personally, really liked Jacob BEFORE Edward came back. He actually treated her like a real person, but then he had to go back to treating her as a posession. Oh crime! I'm venting all the problems about Twilight again. Sorry!!
Harry Potter is amazing!! I especially loved the 6th movie.
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Edward is better than Bella. I hate Bella. With a passion. I usually don't hate people, but her... well, she's an exception considering she's merely a fictional character, but I still can't stand her. She's at her best in the first book and the third part of Breaking Dawn. In between then I really hate her. Jacob is always going to be my favorite, but at the same time I love Edward <3 It's like that first love type thing. He'll always have a place in my heart. It's mainly because I can see both sides of it - the hate part and the love part of how people view Edward. Same with Jacob.
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