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message 1: by Joy H., Group Founder (last edited Sep 08, 2012 06:22AM) (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments It occurred to me that "Rings" are a common theme in Books and Music.

Richard Wagner wrote a series of 4 operas which are part of the "Ring" Cycle. "The plot revolves around a magic ring that grants the power to rule the world, forged by the Nibelung dwarf Alberich from gold he stole from the Rhine maidens in the river Rhine."
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The 4 operas that constitute the Ring cycle are, in sequence:
Das Rheingold (The Rhine Gold)
Die Walküre (The Valkyrie)
Siegfried
Götterdämmerung (Twilight of the Gods)
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ABOVE INFO IS FROM:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Der_Ring...

Funny how the theme centers around a ring, just like Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings trilogy.

I found the following online:
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"The question of a direct influence of Wagner's The Ring Cycle on Tolkien's work is often debated by critics." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_...

"Due to the common use of the same textual sources employed by Tolkien and Wagner there are several parallels between The Lord of the Rings and Der Ring des Nibelungen. Several observers have suggested that the novel was directly derived from Richard Wagner's operas."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._R._R....
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message 2: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) | 6320 comments Wikipedia has an interesting article on rings in mythology, Joy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_ring


message 3: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Jim wrote: "Wikipedia has an interesting article on rings in mythology, Joy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_ring"


OH, WOW! That's a great find, Jim!
It covers the topic thoroughly!
Thanks a million!
How did you find the page?

BTW, this idea of mine for this topic started after I watched the biographical movie, "Magic Fire" (1955), about operatic composer Richard Wagner.
I recently streamed it from Netflix.
http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/Mag...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049461/

Last fall, the Metropolitan Opera was featuring the opera, "Siegfried", one of the 4 operas in the "Ring" Cycle. I wasn't familiar with it but now I understand more about it and more about Wagner himself, a colorful personality.

I thought to myself: "Funny how the theme centers around a ring, just like Tolkien's "Lord of the Rings" trilogy."

One thing leads to another... :)

PS-Wiki says:
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"Wagner achieved all of this despite a life characterized, until his last decades, by political exile, turbulent love affairs, poverty and repeated flight from his creditors. His pugnacious personality and often outspoken views on music, politics and society made him a controversial figure...".
FROM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_...
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Of course, this makes for a good movie. :)


message 4: by Jim (new)

Jim (jimmaclachlan) | 6320 comments I generally just google topics I'm interested in, Joy. I forget the exact phrase I used, but it was something like 'magic ring fantasy' & I saw the Wikipedia article.


message 5: by Joy H., Group Founder (new)

Joy H. (joyofglensfalls) | 16697 comments Jim wrote: "I generally just google topics I'm interested in, Joy. I forget the exact phrase I used, but it was something like 'magic ring fantasy' & I saw the Wikipedia article."

Using the right words during a search is important. I never even thought to do such a search. Glad you did it!


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