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The Symposium by Plato
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Plato’s Symposium is one of the best loved classics from the ancient world, a work of consummate beauty as both philosophy and as literature, most appropriate since the topic of this dialogue is the nature of love and includes much philosophizing on beauty. In the spirit of freshness, I will focus on one very important section, where Socrates relates the words of his teacher Diotima on the birth of Love explained in the context of myth:

“Following the birth of Aphrodite, the other gods were having a feast, including Resource, the son of Invention. When they’d had dinner, Poverty came to beg, as people do at feasts, and so she was by the gate. Resource was drunk with nectar (this was before wine was discovered), went into the garden of Zeus, and fell into drunken sleep. Poverty formed the plan of relieving her lack of resources by having a child by Resource; she slept with him and became pregnant with Love. So the reason Love became a follower and attendant of Aphrodite is because he was conceived on the day of her birth; also he is naturally a lover of beauty and Aphrodite is beautiful.”

Diotima continues but let’s pause here as according to many teachers within the Platonic tradition there are at least two critical points to be made about this passage. The first is how love is conceived in the garden of Zeus, and that’s Zeus as mythical personification of Nous or true intellectual understanding. In other words, for one seeking philosophic wisdom, love is born and exists within the framework of truth and understanding, thus, in order to have a more complete appreciation of the nature of love, one must be committed to understanding the nature of truth. The second point is how within the Platonic tradition, truth is linked with beauty. Two of my own Plato teachers were adamant on this point, citing how modern people who separate beauty from truth can never partake of the wisdom traditions. (Incidentally, these exact two points are made eloquently by Pierre Grimes in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1cbh... ).

Although I am not a strict Platonist, I tend to agree. When I encounter people who have sharp minds and are keenly analytical but communicate their ideas in snide or sarcastic unbeautiful language or are in any way disingenuous or degrading of others, I find such behavior very much in bad taste. In a very real sense, I feel these individuals have cut themselves off from the world’s wisdom traditions, particularly from the Platonic tradition.

I wanted to focus on this one paragraph to convey a sense of the richness of this magnificent Platonic dialogue. One could mine wisdom nuggets from each and every paragraph. And, yes, I get a kick every time I read the speech of Aristophanes featuring those cartwheeling prehumans with four arms and four legs. Also, two fun facts: One: reflecting on Alcibiades, the history of philosophy records another incredibly handsome man with a similar great head of curly hair and full curly beard, a man (fortunately!) with a much stronger character – the Stoic philosopher and Roman Emperor, Marcus Aurelius. Two: Diogenes Laertius reports the Greek philosopher Epicurus also wrote a book with the title ‘Symposium’. Unfortunately, this piece of writing is lost to us. Darn!

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message 1: by Jasmine (new)

Jasmine BEAUTIFUL review, Glenn!


message 2: by Reading Corner (new)

Reading Corner Fantastic review Glenn :)


Glenn Russell Jasmine wrote: "BEAUTIFUL review, Glenn!"

Thanks!


Glenn Russell Reading Corner wrote: "Fantastic review Glenn :)"

Thank you!


message 5: by Eleanor (new)

Eleanor Great review. And I was immediately reminded of Keats of course:

"Beauty is truth, truth beauty.
That is all ye know on earth
And all ye need to know."


Glenn Russell Eleanor wrote: "Great review. And I was immediately reminded of Keats of course:

"Beauty is truth, truth beauty.
That is all ye know on earth
And all ye need to know.""


Thank you, Eleanor. And, yes, certainly - there has been much written on the linking of John Keats with Plato and the Platonic tradition.


message 7: by Seemita (new)

Seemita Beauteous review, Glenn! And very insightful too. Thank you.


Glenn Russell Seemita wrote: "Beauteous review, Glenn! And very insightful too. Thank you."

My pleasure and thanks for reading.


message 9: by John (new)

John Jr. Thanks for your notes on the Symposium. It's another of the many books I ought to have read and intend to read someday. I apologize for being a nitpicker—don't want to fall afoul of your overall views about truth and beauty—but I can't help wondering whether you meant Diogenes Laertius in the final paragraph.


Glenn Russell John E. wrote: "Thanks for your notes on the Symposium. It's another of the many books I ought to have read and intend to read someday. I apologize for being a nitpicker—don't want to fall afoul of your overall vi..."

My pleasure, John. And thanks for pointing out - yes I did mean Diogenes Laertius. I corrected his name on my review.


message 11: by David (new)

David Gustafson Your fourth paragraph would seem to take issue with satire, but how else does a writer respond to a less than beautiful culture or politic?


Glenn Russell David wrote: "Your fourth paragraph would seem to take issue with satire, but how else does a writer respond to a less than beautiful culture or politic?"

Thanks for your comment, David. I purposely did not mention satire, since satire if perfectly fine. There are some points in the dialogues where Plato is satirical. Quite different than snide or sarcastic.


Brian I feel your love for Plato and philosophy in this review. Wonderful. Thanks!


Glenn Russell Brian wrote: "I feel your love for Plato and philosophy in this review. Wonderful. Thanks!"

Thanks so much for reading my review and your kind post here, Brian. Plato's Symposium is easy to love!


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