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The Voyage of the "Dawn Treader" by C.S. Lewis
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Nov 03, 2013

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Read from November 03 to December 11, 2013

I loved this book, both as a child and again as an adult, because it takes me on the kind of adventure I'd love but know I can never have: a long, long sail (cool) into magic lands (über cool).

It's also sprinkled with wonderful, memorable quotes and moments. I loved the bit where Lucy is looking down into the water and sees the mermaid, who looks up just in time to see Lucy looking at her. They can't speak and they're separated almost before they can lock eyes, but it's a moment neither of them will forget. I had a non-boat, non-mermaid related moment like that when I was a child. Perhaps we all have.

I also love when Drinian gets very angry when Reepicheep puts himself in danger. "All this didn't mean that Drinian really disliked Reepicheep. On the contrary he liked him very much and was therefore frightened about him, and being frightened put him in a bad temper -- just as your mother is much angrier with you for running out into the road in front of a car than a stranger would be."

I didn't agree with this passage from the chapter "The Dark Island," and I remember that puzzling me very much. Lewis is usually so spot-on when it comes to emotional truth, it seemed odd that he'd fluff something major -- something important to a child, anyway, and bad dreams are very significant to young people. I always felt, and still feel, that my whole day is darkened when I have a bad dream just before waking in the morning. But here's Lewis' beautifully written, wholly opposite take on that:

And just as there are moments when simply to lie in bed and see the daylight pouring through your window and to hear the cheerful voice of an early postman or milkman down below and to realise that it was only a dream: it wasn't real, is so heavenly that it was very nearly worth having the nightmare in order to have the joy of waking, so they all felt when they came out of the dark.

It just occurred to me that this may be part of Lewis' Christian apologia. It's an analogy of life here in "the shadowlands," which may be dark and difficult; but ultimately the pain we suffer will make the release from it that much sweeter. I don't agree with any aspect of this take on human suffering, but it's a lovely passage anyway.

Speaking of things I don't agree with in this book: As an adult reader, I found it deeply amusing to play "Let's Count How Often Lewis Backs The Wrong Horse, Historically Speaking, in The Voyage of the Dawn Treader."

The story starts off with a memorable introduction to Eustace Clarence Scrubb, a boy so nasty that he almost deserves such a name. (The first line of this book really ought to win some sort of award, as should Lewis' ability to create perfect names, which rivals Dickens'.) And what's so horrible about this boy? He's been brought up by terrible, awful, no good very bad parents:

They were vegetarians, non-smokers and teetotallers and wore a special kind of underclothes.

Okay, I have no idea what the underwear is in reference to, but the rest is pretty hilarious. Imagine! People who don't eat meat or drink or smoke! The fiends! And these wretches are being allowed to rear a child!

Lewis is merciless to Eustace, who is admittedly a nasty piece of work (at least at the beginning of the book). When Eustace is flung into Narnia along with Lucy and Edmund, he is terrified and violently ill -- not exactly surprising, considering that he's tossed with no warning into the ocean and then hauled onto a very small ship. The sailors promptly offer this child of about 12 years some wine to make him feel better.

Let me just stop right here and crack up at the idea of a writer trying to pull a stunt like that today -- at least if the writer were making fun of the kid for being such a hopeless prig, he'd actually say no to alcohol. At the age of 12! What a loser! This sounds like exactly the kind of situation contemporary authors would use to demonstrate the horrors of bullying and peer pressure-induced teenage alcoholism; but Lewis clearly thinks the kid should man up, already, and take the booze.

Which doesn't exactly explain why Lucy, who is just as young and thoroughly female, enjoys the cup of hot wine offered to her. I'm not sure what does explain that. But I do find this paean to way-underage drinking entertaining, if only because I haven't noticed anyone else noticing it.

Eustace gets worse, though. He insists that boys and girls are all just people, and ought to be treated as such. It would be one thing if Caspian were giving up his quarters (the best on the ship) and bunking with his sailors because Lucy is royalty. But of course it's because she's a lady. What a loser Eustace is for thinking she's first and foremost a kid. And as a former kid myself, let me say that I'd have been thrilled to be offered a hammock to sleep in, as Edmund and Eustace were. I can have a bed at home. If I'm in Narnia, give me adventure.

But then I've never been sufficiently ladylike.

Lewis seems to think that girls and women are china dolls: they should be treated with great care lest they break, and rejected if they're anything less than exquisitely beautiful. Who wants to make room on the shelf for a homely china doll? Prince Caspian, that paragon of virtue, rejects the idea of marrying a king's daughter because she "squints, and has freckles." That's all we hear about her. That's reason enough for Caspian to hurry off on his next sea voyage.

Speaking of Lewis' habit of hanging on with both hands (and several of his toes) to the good old days when girls were ladies and kids smoked and drank: we know the Dawn Treader has arrived at a dreadful place when we learn that the Lone Islands are governed by, well, a governor. No wonder it's rife with corruption. Fortunately, nothing ever goes wrong when people are ruled by aristocrats; so Caspian announces, "I think we have had enough of governors," and hands the rule of the Lone Islands over to a Duke. And they all lived happily ever after, in a place where smoking and drinking never shortens or damages your life.

Lewis also introduces us in this novel to the Calormenes. "The Calormenes have dark faces and long beards. They wear flowing robes and orange-coloured turbans, and they are a wise, wealthy, courteous, cruel and ancient people." They also talk like people straight out of The Great Big Book Of Middle Eastern Stereotypes, a theme (?) Lewis will expand on later in The Horse and His Boy.

So. What have we learned here? Yes to smoking, drinking, meat-eating primogeniture, aristocracy vs. elected officials, girls being treated as "ladies" from the moment they're born, and female beauty as a prerequisite to marital happiness; no to foreigners, feminism, and "up-to-date and advanced people." I think that covers everything!

Truly, I did love this book. Like all the Narnia novels (well, six of them), it's strong enough to survive its own faults, especially if you approach it with a sense of humor. Just don't let your kids read it. And if you do, don't blame me if they tell everyone what a lousy parent you are for not rearing them on wine and cigars.
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Tadiana ✩Night Owl☽ I love this book too, despite its shortcomings (funny, you point out some things that had never occurred to me!). I've sometimes wondered if the "underwear" line is a jab at Mormons; I tend to think it is.


Deborah Markus Tadiana wrote: "I love this book too, despite its shortcomings (funny, you point out some things that had never occurred to me!). I've sometimes wondered if the "underwear" line is a jab at Mormons; I tend to think it is."

Aw! But Mormons adore Lewis' work! A friend of mine once said something along the lines of, "Okay, we know he wasn't technically a Mormon -- but basically, yeah, he was a Mormon."


Tadiana ✩Night Owl☽ Deborah wrote: "Aw! But Mormons adore Lewis' work! A friend of mine once said something along the lines of, "Okay, we know he wasn't technically a Mormon -- but basically, yeah, he was a Mormon."

I think that general philosophy-wise there are a lot of similarities between LDS beliefs and C.S. Lewis's. I'm Mormon myself, and yeah, we love to read and quote him. :) But from what I understand, he wasn't much for organized religion generally and definitely disliked the LDS no alcohol rule. Not sure about the underwear, though . . .


Tadiana ✩Night Owl☽ By the way, are you still going to join the Persuasion group read or has that fallen by the wayside?


Deborah Markus Tadiana wrote: "By the way, are you still going to join the Persuasion group read or has that fallen by the wayside?"

Ack -- I'm in, but I've been so braindead from this stupid sinus infection I haven't been participating. I'll get over there and start chatting Austen soon, I swear!


Tadiana ✩Night Owl☽ Get your butt over there and start making insightful and thought-provoking comments! (says the person who's been distracted by other books)


Jean I've wondered that myself, but I'm not sure Lewis knew enough about Mormons to be able to make the jab. I think, though, that progressively-minded English people at the time did eccentric things like sandal-wearing, vegetarianism, teetotaling, and special underwear-wearing. Orwell has a gorgeous passage in, I think, Wigan Pier about it. (I can't find my copy and hope I didn't get rid of it in a fit of purging. That ALWAYS backfires on me.).

Yep, I love Lewis. I quoted him in a talk just a couple of weeks ago. :D He didn't think much of us, that is true; I don't think he liked oddball sects at all.


Jean Bahaha, here are some bits put together in a blog post: "”Socialism,” George Orwell famously wrote in The Road to Wigan Pier (1936), draws towards it ”with magnetic force every fruit-juice drinker, nudist, sandal-wearer, sex-maniac, Quaker, ‘Nature Cure’ quack, pacifist and feminist in England.” His tirade against such “cranks” is memorably extended in other passages of the book to include “vegetarians with wilting beards,” the “outer-suburban creeping Jesus” eager to begin his yoga exercises, and ”that dreary tribe of high-minded women and sandal-wearers and bearded fruit-juice drinkers who come flocking towards the smell of ‘progress’ like bluebottles to a dead cat.”
" http://cabinetmagazine.org/issues/20/...


Jean I distinctly remember birth control making the list as well.


Tadiana ✩Night Owl☽ Hilarious quote, Jean! And the link was very interesting.


message 11: by Jean (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jean Oh! And the Duke and governor! Pure Lewis. Now, I would bet that the governor was appointed, not elected (like colonial governors were), but yeah. He was SUCH a monarchist. I seem to recall reading him saying that monarchy, being the closest imitation of God's form of government (that is, God as ruler of creation), was to his mind the best form of government. Which I think might qualify as the worst piece of non-logic ever to come out of his brain.

I mean, the OT even *says* "Look guys, you don't need a king. You'll be sorry if you get a king. Righteous kings are all very well but there aren't many of those, are there, and bad kings are awful."
"We want a king!"
"Fine. Have a king. Wait and see."
*kablooey*

IMO monarchy is an iniquitous form of government. Picturesque, but iniquitous.


Tadiana ✩Night Owl☽ Huh. Funny, the things I never noticed when I read (and re-read, and re-read) the Narnia series when I was younger. It would be interesting to delve into why Lewis thought monarchy was such a great idea.

And I never really noticed until now that, almost invariably, fantasy novels have countries governed by a monarchy. I suppose it's because fantasies tend to have a medieval type of setting, but is there more to it than that? I think that nowadays (when royals have much more limited governing powers) we tend to romanticize the whole idea of kings and queens and princes and princesses, forgetting how bad it can really get in practice when you have an absolute monarch.


message 13: by Cleo (last edited Nov 06, 2014 09:01AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cleo Jean wrote: " I seem to recall reading him saying that monarchy, being the closest imitation of God's form of government (that is, God as ruler of creation), was to his mind the best form of government...."

I just read the above Lewis comment ....... oh my, I'm reading so much Lewis this year that I can't remember where I read it. Was it Surprised by Joy: The Shape of My Early Life??? In any case, he did say that it was the closest form of rule to Heaven but he did imply that it was inherently flawed. So basically taking into consideration all the flawed forms of government, it was the closest to Heaven's form. I didn't necessarily pick up that he would advocate for it but I did feel that he respected it.

Since I've read so much of Lewis this year, all his philosophies keep popping up through his works. The nightmare scene was most likely a commentary on "joy". He describes this feeling numerous times in his autobiography so I think that he was attempting to focus on a positive aspect and not a negative.

His commentary on Eustace's family comes from his idea that while Christians can think that drinking and smoking are vices, it is actually God that gives us the pleasures of life, but it is sin that takes those pleasures and corrupts them. And, of course, Europe does not have the taboos on drinking as we do here ... even now, children are given watered down wine in France and no one thinks anything of it.

Reading about Lewis this year has really made me change my mind with regard to him and feminism. First of all, he had a huge following of women fans ......... they just loved him and would not only write with regard to his books, but they would write to him asking for advice. He is so wonderfully gracious in his letters. He was also a very good friend of Dorothy Sayers ...... I don't know if anyone has read any of her works (Are Women Human? Astute and Witty Essays on the Role of Women in Society) but there would have been no way he could have gotten away with comments that were anti-feminist or she would have roasted him on a spit. :-D She highly respected him.

In any case, I've gleaned so much from my Lewis readings this year. Surprised by Joy: The Shape of My Early Life and Mere Christianity are the best books to read if you want to be able to accurately pick out Lewis' philosophies from his other works. He was such an interesting guy!


message 14: by Jean (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jean Oh, there was so much I didn't notice about Narnia when I was a kid. I must have been a really obtuse child. The most obvious things went right over my head.

I LOVE Dorothy Sayers. She is awesome. Plus she accidentally kick-started the modern classical education movement, which always makes me laugh.

I don't think of Lewis as being anti-woman, but he did live in a mostly male environment and I think that he thought that way as a default for a long time. Marriage probably gave him some interesting surprises! He was a man of his day as well as a brilliant guy, so naturally some things jar on us a bit.


message 15: by Cleo (last edited Jul 14, 2015 09:14AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cleo I just read the Chronicles and realized how much I missed too! As a child, I don't think you can get everything that he incorporates. But his "pet" views come more easily into light once you read some of his non-fiction books.

That's a really good point that Lewis was a product of his times and it's helpful to read him as such. I'm sure sometime in the future people will be criticizing the way we've behaved in certain areas. :-Z Have you read any of his letters? I have all three volumes but have only managed to get through a handful so far. I am so impressed by his politeness and graciousness to people. People were constantly requesting things of him and when he had to say no, his words were so temperate and considerate.

Did Sayers kick-start the modern education movement?! I had no idea. Thanks for the tip! It inspires me to read more about her. Please let me know if you have any recommendations.


message 16: by Cleo (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cleo Jean, with regard to the monarchies ....... I'm reading Thomas More's Utopia now and I have a wonderful old book that gives lots of background. It's interesting that there was a very definite delineation between a "lawful king" and a "tyrant". There was a distinction between a good and bad monarch, so I'm not sure if we can take monarchy as a blanket term. What is even more interesting, that even with a "tyrant" there was respect for the system itself. I'm not sure what that means, but I thought I'd throw it out there. Again, I'd love to read more about this subject.


message 17: by Jean (new) - rated it 4 stars

Jean Sayers accidentally started the modern *classical* education movement, which is mostly homeschoolers and some private or charter schools. She did this by means of a speech she gave at an event, which someone later came across and decided was a good idea to put into action. http://www.gbt.org/text/sayers.html


message 18: by Cleo (last edited Nov 06, 2014 02:55PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cleo Ah yes, now I get you. I thought modern as in "Dewey" and I thought, "huh"? ;-)

Thanks for the link to this speech though. I've always wanted to read it and just haven't been able to get my hands on it.


Diane Really enjoyed your review.....it is 12 a.m. and I had a good chuckle. I liked this book great deal but must reread it to catch all the things you mentioned.


Deborah Markus Diane wrote: "Really enjoyed your review.....it is 12 a.m. and I had a good chuckle. I liked this book great deal but must reread it to catch all the things you mentioned."

Thanks so much, Diane! Yes, this is one of those books it's a lot of fun to reread as a grownup!


message 21: by Jaz (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jaz (Cloud Child ) Apart from the passage about teetotal non smoking parts a lot of these went over my hear. Enjoyed your review, quite funny to read. I love old classic childrens fiction and its wierd how I can easily overlook stuff like this. Like in Chalet School stories (if you've ever read them) they go on about sweet ladylike ways of a women and keeping it that way but then they mention smoking a cigar a couple passages later. Its funny. I'm sure some time in the future we shall be mocked for things we thought normal :P


Deborah Markus Cloud wrote: "Apart from the passage about teetotal non smoking parts a lot of these went over my hear. Enjoyed your review, quite funny to read. I love old classic childrens fiction and its wierd how I can easily overlook stuff like this. Like in Chalet School stories (if you've ever read them) they go on about sweet ladylike ways of a women and keeping it that way but then they mention smoking a cigar a couple passages later. Its funny. I'm sure some time in the future we shall be mocked for things we thought normal :P"

Yes, I'm old enough to be shocked already by plenty of the stuff that passed for normal child-rearing practices in my childhood! Everything from which way the baby lies in the crib to where the car seat goes to how long and far kids could wander unsupervised -- it's like a foreign country now!


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