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The Coddling of the American Mind by Jonathan Haidt
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Education should not be intended to make people comfortable; it is meant to make them think." ~Hanna Gray

I'm not sure how to begin this review other than to say it was both interesting and disturbing. Having read iGen: Why Today’s Super-Connected Kids Are Growing Up Less Rebellious, More Tolerant, Less Happy--and Completely Unprepared for Adulthood--and What That Means for the Rest of Us, I was somewhat aware of what is taking place in universities across the US. The authors of "The Coddling of American Minds write a similar book but giving many more examples of the erosion of free speech on campuses. I'm flabbergasted! How can universities, the very places where freedom of speech was most protected, now be censoring both professors and students in order to not offend anyone? In order to not "harm" students with ideas? Greg Lukianoff and Jonathan Haidt explain why this is taking place, how we have turned into a culture of fragility and over-protection. It is one thing to not allow hate speech, hateful and truly harmful ideas, as the authors are quick to point out, but quite another to suppress any view that might go against what students believe, in order to not "harm" them by exposing them to alternate points of view.

Why are universities firing professors for bringing up "hot" issues? Why are they banning controversial speakers? Why are they limiting what even the students can say? It all starts with over-parenting and treating children as fragile things that cannot withstand anything. Of course, this comes from a good place -- a good parent does not want their child to be hurt and wants to protect them from all harm. I'm not a parent but I can understand that. We don't want those we love to be hurt or suffer. However, we as society have gone too far, from "protecting" our children from peanuts and thus greatly increasing the number of children with deadly allergies to them, to protecting them from alternate views and conflicting ideas. We don't allow children to grow if we keep them from being exposed to things that challenge them. The authors say that children are not fragile, but anti-fragile. We need to protect them from serious harm of course, but by coddling them and treating even teens as young children, we are hurting their future prospects and making it more difficult for them to succeed in the adult world.

The authors cite numerous examples of this overprotection, both of young children and extending onto college campuses. They list 3 Untruths that now often govern how children are raised and are causing them to be more anxious and depressed than previous generations:

•The Untruth of Fragility: "What doesn't kill you makes you weaker."

•The Untruth of Emotional Reasoning: "Always trust your feelings."

•The Untruth of Us Versus Them: "Life is a battle between good people and evil people."


The 3 criteria for an idea to be classified as an Untruth are:

•"It contradicts ancient wisdom."

•"It contradicts modern psychological research on well-being."

•It harms the individuals and communities who embrace it."


I will not expand on these in my review but highly recommend the book for any who is interested. I would like to say though, that I do not wholly agree with the first criteria, that of something being untrue in part because it contradicts ancient wisdom. I would argue that just because something has always been held "true" doesn't mean it is. In fact, just because something has always been held true is reason in itself to challenge the assumption. Society would make no progress if "truths' were never questioned, and each generation merely accepted what the prior ones said. We would still be burning people at the stake, still be stoning people to death for adultery, still be cutting off hands for the theft of bread, still be enslaving people (well, we are in a way, if you look at the prison industry in the US, but that's for another discussion), still be locking up gay people. Sometimes we NEED to contradict ancient wisdom.

That said, I mostly agree with this book and the assertions put forth by the authors. I think there is a fine line at times between hate speech and free speech and I'm still not sure where the line needs to be drawn. Drawn it must be; people must be protected from those who would harm them and incite violence against them. However, people do not need to be protected from merely hearing differing points of view, ie a young person who is taught creationism at home is not emotionally harmed by learning about evolution in a school setting (where facts are supposed to be taught).

As was pointed out to me by a reader of my original (flawed and perhaps somewhat racist or at least racially insensitive) review, "There is a very important distinction between thinking differently and holding a position that is objectively wrong". This is true and this is where the line needs to be drawn. And it needs to be drawn by those at whom hateful and false ideologies are directed and who are thus affected by, not by those who are not. The majority cannot dictate what is allowed to be taken as harmful to the minority.

Objectively false ideas do not need to be entertained, nor should they be.

When it comes to mere differences of opinion though, I love the following advice from the book:

"Argue as if you're right, but listen as if you're wrong (and be willing to change your mind). Make the most respectful interpretation of the other person's perspective. Acknowledge where you agree with your critics and what you've learned from them."
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January 18, 2019 – Started Reading
January 18, 2019 – Shelved
January 20, 2019 – Shelved as: non-fiction
January 20, 2019 – Shelved as: sociology
January 20, 2019 – Finished Reading

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message 1: by Judith (new)

Judith E That’s a great quote. What an interesting subject.


message 2: by Alexandra (new)

Alexandra i notice that the younger generation (millennials too but i’m mainly referring to the generation after us, although i’m not sure what they are referred to as lol) are suuuuuper sensitive to opinions that differ from their own. in fact, most recently i’ve seen quite a bit of that here on goodreads. some girl posted something in her review that was calling something “problematic” (that word 🙈) and i really didn’t see where she was coming from, although of course, i respected her opinion. i left a comment saying something to that effect and do you know she blocked me?
but not before she and an army of her friends told me how i’m a horrible person etc etc.
what. 😳
i was simply trying to have a conversation, try to understand where she was coming from, and present the opposite side of that in a friendly and open minded way and she couldn’t seem to handle that and viewed it as me attacking her. 🤔


Jenna Judith wrote: "That’s a great quote. What an interesting subject."
Yes, it was quite interesting, Judith.


Jenna Alexandra wrote: "i notice that the younger generation (millennials too but i’m mainly referring to the generation after us, although i’m not sure what they are referred to as lol) are suuuuuper sensitive to opinion..."

Sorry that happened to you on here, Alexandra. I've enjoyed GR because it seems like there is more open-mindedness and discussions than on other social media, but I guess people who can't handle differing points of view are to be found everywhere. I've always found it interesting to talk with others who think differently than I do because it challenges me to think of things I might not otherwise. I do notice, especially reading this book, that I've become less tolerant of very conservative points of view now that we're in the trump era, and that is something I need to work on now so I don't end up getting intolerant of other viewpoints in general. Life would be boring if we all thought alike and we'd never learn anything new if we all thought the same things. I feel sad for the "I-Geners" (also called Generation Z) that so many of them are unable to see that just because someone doesn't agree with you, it doesn't mean they're your enemy. Plenty of people in my generation (X) are like that too so it's not just a generation or age thing. I think it's the era we're living in and how isolated we often are now from other viewpoints. It's ironic: we have the chance to connect with just about anyone on earth at any time, and yet we become ever more insulated!
I hope you'll have more productive conversations on here in the future, and no more being attacked for not agreeing with something. That's so frustrating and then we all end up walking on eggshells and not able to just have a discussion about anything!


message 5: by Paula (new)

Paula Very informative review, Jenna!


message 6: by Greta G (new) - added it

Greta G Wonderful review, Jenna. And a really great quote.


Jenna Paula wrote: "Very informative review, Jenna!"

Thank you, Paula; the book was informative, for sure!


Jenna Greta wrote: "Wonderful review, Jenna. And a really great quote."

Thanks, Greta; yes, it's a terrific quote!


message 9: by Alexandra (new)

Alexandra Jenna wrote: "Alexandra wrote: "i notice that the younger generation (millennials too but i’m mainly referring to the generation after us, although i’m not sure what they are referred to as lol) are suuuuuper se..."

oh it’s okay. it doesn’t really bother me, just irks me that people can be so closed minded as not to listen to others opinions at all. it’s kind of dangerous actually, to live life like that, shunning everyone’s opinion because it differs from yours. it’s scary that this is how many people are becoming. 😳
i love that everyone has a different point of view, and i enjoy discussing those points of view. i feel like it makes everyone more informed and understanding and tolerant (or at least it should).


message 10: by Kathleen (new)

Kathleen Thoughtful informative review!


Jenna Alexandra wrote: "i love that everyone has a different point of view, and i enjoy discussing those points of view. i feel like it makes everyone more informed and understanding and tolerant (or at least it should."

I agree!


Jenna Kathleen wrote: "Thoughtful informative review!"

Thank you, Kathleen!


message 13: by Monica (last edited Jun 25, 2020 01:09AM) (new) - rated it 1 star

Monica Hi,

To begin, this is neither an attack on you or your review.

I just wanted to respond to a few of your points.

I agree, for the most part, with your review, but as a member of three marginalized communities, I don’t feel I owe it to abelists, racists and misogynists to give their “ideas” about my worth and human rights a fair shake.

More importantly, I disagree with the notion of people with ethnic and cultural privilege getting to determine the constitutive criteria for hate speech (I'm not saying that this is you) because I believe that people in marginalized communities are the most appropriate judges of what is offensive and what is not.

There is a very important distinction between thinking differently and holding a position that is objectively wrong.

Take for example the current national conversation about race.

Some hold the belief that the realization of the American dream is possible for everyone, regardless of ethnicity. Others hold the belief that ethnicity precludes certain Americans from achieving it.

That is an idea worth debating.

We can have this conversation in a classroom or other public setting and wield our respective rhetorical abilities in a debate.

The problem comes when people advocate for the eradication, deportation, or automatic criminalization of blacks and other non-whites.

The idea that abortion is murder is controversial. The idea that rape and incest are essential to the propagation of the species is objectively wrong.

If you disagree about the humanity of non-white Americans, you hold a belief that is objectively wrong.

If you advocate for the spread of a deadly and highly contagious virus because you know that marginalized communities are dying in larger numbers than privileged whites, your opinion is objectively wrong, especially if the “but their diet” argument ignores the relationship between systemic racism and the accessibility of healthier food options.

To continue, conservatives aren’t victims. Much of the opprobrium they receive is due, in large part, to their white supremacist, sexist, homophobic, social Darwinist, misogynist, xenophobic, ableist, nationalist and religiously intolerant platforms and policies.

It used to be that the conservatives who held these views could be dismissed as outliers, extreme examples of conservative ideology that didn’t represent the party as a whole.

In recent years, these “fringe” positions have come to occupy prominent positions under the republican/conservative banner.

Again, I am happy to debate and even compromise with conservatives on certain things.

There are even a handful of ideas we share.

What I will not do is entertain evil.

Evil and conservatism do not have to be mutually inclusive concepts; they didn’t use to be, and there is no reason they have to stay that way.


Jenna Monica wrote: "Hi,

To begin, this is neither an attack on you or your review.

I just wanted to respond to a few of your points.

I agree, for the most part, with your review, but as a member of three marginali..."


Monica, thank you for this. I 100% agree with you on all of the points you made.

I cannot remember exactly why I wrote what I did in my review but I think it was mainly about allowing conversations to be had between people with different points of view.

However, as you said, we cannot entertain evil. Hate speech and hateful, bigoted, racist, homophobic, ethnocentric etc ideas have no place in either a university setting or anywhere in our modern life.

You are right to say "I don’t feel I owe it to abelists, racists and misogynists to give their “ideas” about my worth and human rights a fair shake."

You are also right to say, "I disagree with the notion of people with ethnic and cultural privilege getting to determine the constitutive criteria for hate speech (I'm not saying that this is you) because I believe that people in marginalized communities are the most appropriate judges of what is offensive and what is not."
I apologize for doing just that.

I'm going to sit with this awhile because you have made me aware that I was writing from a place of white privilege. Thank you for pointing this out to me. I really need to make couple revisions to this review!


Jenna Monica~
I tried to send a message to ask but it says you're not accepting them --- I have copied you ("There is a very important distinction between thinking differently and holding a position that is objectively wrong.") in quotes in my revised review but without putting your name. I want to make sure it is OK for me to use your words, and if so, would you like your name included?

I love your wording and description but will be happy to remove it from the review if you'd rather not be quoted. I should have asked before posting it. If i don't hear back from you, I'll remove it.


Monica Hi, Jenna,

First, thank you for taking my comments in the spirit in which they were given.

If my opinion matters even a little, I want to encourage you to leave this review as it is.

I’ve been in more than one “discussion” with racists of late and have seen every flavor of offensive there is.

Your review doesn’t even come close to the least offensive of the posts I’ve seen, and that includes a GR friend and fellow book club/group member’s review of Robin DiAngelo’s White Fragility.

Yours is an informative, nuanced, honest and positive review of a controversial book.

It’s not a screed like my own review but a calm and reasonable assessment of the authors’ ideas.

Neither I nor anyone else gets to tell you how to interpret or feel about its message, and I dare anyone to try that with me in my review space.

On a side note, I’ve only ever launched one “attack” on a review, and that was because its author made a misogynistic implication about the book’s protagonist.

I digress.

I am in instructor (you can’t tell by looking at my posts but it’s true) and can empathize with those frustrated by the restrictions on course content and class discussions.

I also know what it’s like to be judged for my refusal to rescue students from heated classroom debates on hot-button issues.

I think the conflation of free speech with consequence free speech is problematic but can agree that there needs to be some kind of line between free speech and hate speech.

I also think that that line must necessarily move as times and sensibilities change.

At any rate, you’ve gained a new follower; I look forward to reading more of what you have to say on GR.


Jenna Again, thank you, Monica. I appreciate the opportunity to learn and grow and reflect. It's not easy to reach out to a stranger and I appreciate your courage in doing so.

I didn't feel like you were trying to tell me how to feel about or interpret the book, only pointing out how my words sounded. They came across as saying hateful people should get equal opportunity to say how they feel and though that is not what I intended, I see I was insensitive and careless in my wording.

I failed to make that oh so important distinction that you made and which is critical to the discussion!

I have had people attack me for my reviews but there is also a big distinction between constructive criticism (your comment) and hateful nasty trolls (I see from your profile that you know the sort!). The latter I put in their place; the former I appreciate, take seriously, and do not consider attacks.

I am relieved you didn't feel my review was offensive; that means a lot to me!

I did already change my review, but have a copy of the original that I can reinsert what I removed, since yes, I do value your opinion. However, I would like to keep a few of the changes, including where I quoted you.

(I'm not sure if you saw my second comment to you, asking about using it? I apologize for not asking your permission first and will be happy to remove it if you would like. I will wait to change the review after I hear from you).

Because I see now that my words come from a place of white privilege and seem to dictate what others are allowed to determine is hateful, I do want to keep the addition I made just so that no one thinks I'm encouraging anyone to give Nazis, white supremacists, etc equal footing.

They don't deserve it.

It must be quite tricky, being an instructor, having restrictions placed, having to decide what can be allowed and not allowed, when to jump in, when to let the student "tough it out".

Having to determine when a conversation can be educational and a growth opportunity and when it is cruel and harmful to the student to allow a conversation to continue.

I am far from having all the answers and wouldn't even know where to begin in attempting to answer them, or decide where that line should be drawn.

I am sorry you've had to read so many offensive comments.... racists can't stand to see any anti-racist progress and they are making it known loud and clear. We'll continue to stand up to them though, let them know their hatred is not consequence-free

Thank you again, Monica, for this opportunity to examine my words and thoughts, and for sharing yours with me as well. I too look forward to reading more of your thoughts and ideas on GR.


Monica Jenna wrote: "Again, thank you, Monica. I appreciate the opportunity to learn and grow and reflect. It's not easy to reach out to a stranger and I appreciate your courage in doing so.

I didn't feel like you we..."

Hi, Jenna,

I’m perfectly fine with, even flattered by your incorporation of anything I said. 😊

Yes, navigating the minefield that is education can be tricky, especially when you’re dealing with administrators and department heads who feel that certain segments of the student population “can’t handle” or “lack the intellectual capacity” and intestinal fortitude to grapple with difficult and painful subjects and material.

Sometimes enforcing the “free speech but not consequence free speech” policy means sitting back and listening while students with whom I happen to agree deal with pushback that is less than…nice.

Other times, it means remaining respectfully silent while students with whom I vehemently disagree submit their ideas for the class’s consideration.

It means coming down on students with whom I disagree when they get out of line, but it can also mean putting a hard check on students with whom I strongly agree.

It even means awarding a grade of A to a piece of writing with which I fundamentally disagree but which is carefully researched and skillfully argued.

I’ve initiated and moderated some…interesting discussions, all of which centered on controversial issues and phenomena.

Those have and continue to make for some of the best and most rewarding classroom experiences I’ve had.

The crazy part is that the orders to “take care” when developing and presenting a course of study often get handed down from people who A, are themselves generalizers and bigots or B, out of touch with students’ varied sensibilities and comfort levels because they haven’t taught a class since Reagan was president.

When it comes to teaching, there are some definite black and white things but there are quite a few gray areas wherein instructors have to do and hope for the best.

Gaging classroom dynamics is one of those gray places we have to figure out on our own.

And yes, trolls do make lovely snacks, don’t they? 😈

Equally tasty are bigots who projectile vomit skewed statistics and debunked rationales they get from YouTube randos and bloggers.

I must say, though, the boring ones who trot out the standard arguments have a nice flavor as well.

Ultimately, if the ethnic and cultural makeup of the *peaceful* George Floyd protesters and the recent polls are any indication, the tide seems to be turning against the bigoted population of this country.

Here’s hoping all of this leads to some transformative and much overdue change.


Monica Case and point about the gray area at the five minute mark of this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5aRW...

I may not have handled the situation in quite that way but can respect that teacher's decision.


message 20: by Tamoghna (new)

Tamoghna Biswas Interesting review, Jenna... the book seems like something everyone of my age should read. Strangely I can relate myself a bit, not only with the core of the review but with a few comments as well :-)


Jenna Monica wrote: "I’m perfectly fine with, even flattered by your incorporation of anything I said. 😊

Yes, navigating the minefield "


Thanks for allowing me to use it, Monica. Your style of writing is so clear and concise.

I can't begin to imagine being in the position of the educator and my admiration for teachers has just risen more. I didn't watch the video yet, but thank you for posting. I'll try to watch it this afternoon.

You wrote: "Here’s hoping all of this leads to some transformative and much overdue change."

Yes!!! I'll toast to that! 🥂


Jenna Tamoghna wrote: "Interesting review, Jenna... the book seems like something everyone of my age should read. Strangely I can relate myself a bit, not only with the core of the review but with a few comments as well :-)"

Thanks, Tamoghna. I think it's important for people of all ages, not just younger people. We all are getting more polarized as we hang out in our social media bubbles.


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