Jan-Maat's Reviews > The Chronicles Of Narnia : The Magician's Nephew, The Lion The Witch and The Wardrobe, The Horse and His Boy, Prince Caspian, The Voyage of The Dawn Treader, The Silver Chair, The Last Battle
The Chronicles Of Narnia : The Magician's Nephew, The Lion The Witch and The Wardrobe, The Horse and His Boy, Prince Caspian, The Voyage of The Dawn Treader, The Silver Chair, The Last Battle (The Chronicles of Narnia, #1-7)
by C.S. Lewis
by C.S. Lewis
I was wondering the other day(view spoiler)(view spoiler) how far Lewis's sexuality determined his famously maladroit handling of the female element to his story telling.
The lion merely supplants the witch, they find no accommodation together, there is no fruitful synthesis. Rather his rejection of her and general refusal to deal with her, leaves no where for her to go than a frigid eternal winter. Hell hath no fury... as we say when we can remember too(view spoiler). Yet all this is thwarted desire I say, suspecting that she wished to sit upon his back and sink her face in to the tawny mane and no doubt get thoroughly licked by this big cat(view spoiler). I've heard somewhere that Lewis put a certain amount of effort into being unattractive, he was somewhat smelly and dirty even by the standards of his own (view spoiler) times and distinctly fixated on his own and other people's mothers(view spoiler).
Women in these books who in other book might be considered of an age, position, and intelligence to be love interests are here unambiguously witches. Threatening! Bizarrely malevolent! Otherwise they are safely pre-pubescent, until we get to Susan who gets to die before she becomes a witch.
Read all these separately but for convenience let's pretend I had a boxed edition.
Enjoyed these as a child, particularly the 1st one with the wood between worlds. Despite being not introduced to religion until about the age of five at school I don't recall the Christian allegory bothering me.
I know the story order of the books is not the publication order, I'm mildly curious that we move from Christian world view with Lion-God Aslan creating the world, singing it in to being (view spoiler) in the beginning to Platonism at the end: the God created world is not the real one but only a smaller imitation, the real world accessible only via death is apparently bigger and better, so much for God as blind matchmaker he is out done in his limited creative capacity (view spoiler) by an apparently eternal uncreated universe.
Anyway a bit odd even before one gets to the apparent absence of female centaurs(view spoiler) or dwarfs(view spoiler). There you go, that's children's books for you, too many unresolved sexual problems (view spoiler).
The lion merely supplants the witch, they find no accommodation together, there is no fruitful synthesis. Rather his rejection of her and general refusal to deal with her, leaves no where for her to go than a frigid eternal winter. Hell hath no fury... as we say when we can remember too(view spoiler). Yet all this is thwarted desire I say, suspecting that she wished to sit upon his back and sink her face in to the tawny mane and no doubt get thoroughly licked by this big cat(view spoiler). I've heard somewhere that Lewis put a certain amount of effort into being unattractive, he was somewhat smelly and dirty even by the standards of his own (view spoiler) times and distinctly fixated on his own and other people's mothers(view spoiler).
Women in these books who in other book might be considered of an age, position, and intelligence to be love interests are here unambiguously witches. Threatening! Bizarrely malevolent! Otherwise they are safely pre-pubescent, until we get to Susan who gets to die before she becomes a witch.
Read all these separately but for convenience let's pretend I had a boxed edition.
Enjoyed these as a child, particularly the 1st one with the wood between worlds. Despite being not introduced to religion until about the age of five at school I don't recall the Christian allegory bothering me.
I know the story order of the books is not the publication order, I'm mildly curious that we move from Christian world view with Lion-God Aslan creating the world, singing it in to being (view spoiler) in the beginning to Platonism at the end: the God created world is not the real one but only a smaller imitation, the real world accessible only via death is apparently bigger and better, so much for God as blind matchmaker he is out done in his limited creative capacity (view spoiler) by an apparently eternal uncreated universe.
Anyway a bit odd even before one gets to the apparent absence of female centaurs(view spoiler) or dwarfs(view spoiler). There you go, that's children's books for you, too many unresolved sexual problems (view spoiler).
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Olivier wrote: "Seriously?!?"well I do wonder how far Lewis' sexuality determined his writing, yes. Plainly I don't wonder that terribly seriously because I am not engaged in researching it, so more a thesis born of idle seriousness.
But if that thought disturbs you then I say, as the song says ' a kiss is just kiss, that a review is just a review
Thanks for your reply, Jan-Maat. I wasn't disturbed per se. Incredulous would be closer to the mark, because, die-hard fan of Narnia though I am, I must admit that I never read/revisited the Chronicles from that angle. Which is interesting, to say the least;-)
Very entertaining Jan-Maat. I like what you can string together in a mood of 'idle seriousness'. Would you believe that I've never read CSLewis, and I didn't buy the series for my kids either? Strange, considering how much I read as a child and how many books I bought for my children.
Olivier wrote: "Thanks for your reply, Jan-Maat. I wasn't disturbed per se. Incredulous would be closer to the mark, because, die-hard fan of Narnia though I am, I must admit that I never read/revisited the Chroni..."Incredulous! There is a cure for that - read more!
It has it's great moments, also some silly ones, but I suppose I wasn't minded to write about that.
Fionnuala wrote: "Very entertaining Jan-Maat. I like what you can string together in a mood of 'idle seriousness'. Would you believe that I've never read CSLewis, and I didn't buy the series for my kids either? Str..."
I don't know how strange it is, book fashions particularly for children are... singular - I never came across E.Nesbit when I was small for instance (possibly because she didn't write enough about Vikings)
Jan-Maat wrote: "Olivier wrote: "Thanks for your reply, Jan-Maat. I wasn't disturbed per se. Incredulous would be closer to the mark, because, die-hard fan of Narnia though I am, I must admit that I never read/revi..."As an author, I'll take your advice to heart!
I enjoyed these as a child, but hated the first one when I read it to my own child, and didn't continue. Having read your thoughts - serious and less so - I think you've uncovered part of the reason. Perhaps related to that is the creepiness of Mr Tumnus taking Lucy home (something far worse on screen).
Cecily wrote: "I enjoyed these as a child, but hated the first one when I read it to my own child, and didn't continue. Having read your thoughts - serious and less so - I think you've uncovered part of the reaso..."yes, it is grooming (and he was particularly hairy) though I suppose that concept didn't exist for Lewis maybe he was spared that in his school experience?
In the film, it wasn't so much the hairiness as that when they were sitting down for tea, it looked like a naked man and small girl.
