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Brendon Schrodinger rated a book really liked it
over 1 year ago
Read in January 2016
Daah daaahh dah

DA DA!!!

boom boom boom boom boom


That's how the book starts. I swear. No lie. Then there is twenty pages of men in rubber suits called Oog and Ugg.

No, not really.

I'm like most people I guess (only in this regard) in that I saw the movie before the book. And it's a damn fine movie if you have some patience. It's beautiful and oh my god it's full of stars. So it's natural that the comparison is made between text and movie here. But, unusually, the book was written alongside the movie script. There was a nice bit at the back of the book where Arthur acknowledges the differences between the two and the explanation behind it.

The stories are very similar, it's just some of the details that change. But it is awfully hard to separate the two. The novel is less obtuse - things are spelt out a lot clearer. And there is much more scientific details for us nerds go squee at. Was the 1:4:9 ratio in the movie?

Unlike the movie the ape men are very interesting and the difference is that it talks about how the monolith experiments on them and chooses those most fit to teach to use tools. It also hints that there were other monoliths in contact with other tribes. Are they still there under the African savannah? (maybe we'll find out in the sequels).

So despite knowing the story the wonder is still there. I still enjoyed it immensely. Oh and the last 20% of the book makes much more sense than the last 20% of the movie. Not total sense mind you.

For those unfamiliar with Clarke's writing it is similar to most golden age SF in that characterisation takes a back seat. Maybe not as much as other classic SF authors, but there is some two dimensionality here. The ideas and the plot are the fruits here. I just want you all to know what to expect from Arthur C Clarke.

So 'Odyssey II' next, which has already pissed me off, but I'm pushing through it. But that's a story for another day.



EDIT: P.S. Be warned. Blatant Mad Men era sexism. Kinda cringeworthy. And there is one line that is an absolute corker about why their runabouts have female names.
Peter Webb A very decent review. You are right when you say the script and novel were developed in tandem. Clarke was writing chapters that Kubrick edited, contributed to, and took for his script. Clarke himself wrote that there were endless chapters and sections that Kubrick took and dismissed. Some found their way into the novel, others went in the bin. At some point the movie version took over, and this accounts for the variation in Clarke's usual style. Anyone who wants to delve into the depths of what it was like for Clarke working with Kubrick can do no better than to read The Lost Worlds of 2001 by Clarke.
  • 50 days ago
Henry Avila I read all four of the series, quite entertaining, though Clarke can be a little cold around the edges, Brendon. And exploring is in my Portuguese culture.. P.S. Australia finally has given my ancestors , credit for being the first Europeans to see it...
  • one year ago
Brendon Schrodinger Yeah, I guess I see your point. The change in setting is a relic of a change in knowledge that should be celebrated and not hidden. I guess so.

Maybe I'm just being story purist :D
  • one year ago
Brendon Schrodinger Beth, I found it in a preview on Google Books. My copy digital copy of 2001 has nearly the same into.

But yeah, exactly what you said. The new Voyager info coming in made Jupiter's moons more exciting so he carried on with that.

I understand his reasoning, I just don't understand why he didn't then go back and revise his 2001 novel to reflect this. I guess I just thought there would be consistency between the novels.
  • one year ago
Brendon Schrodinger Oh no. Mine doesn't have that intro. I'll try to find that online. I want and need to know!

Glad you're feeling better.
  • one year ago
Brendon Schrodinger Thanks Maria and Stuart.

I've never watched Zoolander Stuart. It doesn't really appeal too much.

I watched 2010 a few years ago and it was not too bad. All I can remember is Roy Schnieder and a radio telescope, so the book is proving full of surprises.
  • one year ago
Stuart Brendon, nice intro. I loved the 2001 reference in Zoolander, it's part of the lexicon.
Interested to hear your take on the 2010 book AND movie. I remember thinking the Peter Hyams film wasn't that bad, just more conventional than the Kubrick classic.
  • one year ago
Maria Love them both.. movie and book! Great review Brendon. Cheers.
  • one year ago
Brendon Schrodinger Beth, I've gotten over most of it. I'm about 25% the way through. I just hated how 2010 book is a sequel to the details in 2001 movie and not the 2001 book.

Under the weather :/ well I hope it's not leading into a cold.
  • one year ago
Wanda I love that! Star Trek influences real life again!
  • one year ago
Brendon Schrodinger Hmmm. That's a great rumour. Siri is female by default, but has an equal male to female ratio in differing dialects. But I chose female. That may have more to do with Star Trek always using a female computer voice though.
  • one year ago
Wanda Rumour has it that computerized voices are mostly female now because of HAL in the movie. I wonder how much truth there is in that?
  • one year ago
Brendon Schrodinger Cool. I'm about 10% into the second now. Hopefully I'll get through all 4.
  • one year ago