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message 1: by Raquel (new)

Raquel Valldeperas Gahhhh I was this * * close to buying this the other day...IN HARDCOVER! It got such good reviews... Maybe there's still hope? "/


message 2: by [deleted user] (new)

Durzo Blint could breath on the MC and get rid of her. Yeesh, I swear I could smell the garlic when reading. :)


message 3: by Navessa (last edited Dec 15, 2013 03:54AM) (new)

Navessa @ Raquel: Eep. I suppose if it was a slightly used hardcover for less than two bucks it'd be worth it. I tease, there are some redeeming aspects to this book. The writing is decent and the world is pretty nifty. Also, if you haven't read a lot of high fantasy with legitimate badass assassins you might fare better than I.

@ Loki: Yes he could. That man... *shudder*


message 4: by Mizuki (new)

Mizuki The most feared and reviled assassin at the ripe old age of seventeen? My goodness it's just bad.

In the Royal Assassin trilogy, Fitz got trained to be an assassin since childhood but he is doing just okay when he was 17.


message 5: by Navessa (new)

Navessa Ha! I've read that series too. For whatever reason, I remember the last book pissing me off. Still, it was fleshed out so much better than this.


message 6: by ᴥ Irena ᴥ (new)

ᴥ Irena ᴥ Too bad. That cover is really great.


message 7: by Navessa (new)

Navessa It really is.


message 8: by Sabrina (new)

Sabrina I had already marked this as "do-not-want" but if that wasn't so, I'd mark it again and again!


message 9: by Navessa (new)

Navessa Mwah ha ha.


message 10: by Mizuki (last edited Dec 15, 2013 05:44AM) (new)

Mizuki Litchick (is going to Hogwarts) wrote: "Ha! I've read that series too. For whatever reason, I remember the last book pissing me off. Still, it was fleshed out so much better than this."

I'm not entirely happy with the last book of the Farseer trilogy, but still you are right, it's difficult to imagine a 17 years old girl can be a famous and well feared assassin, and a well feared assassin would not act like this, not when her freedom and life is on edge.


message 11: by Selena (new)

Selena Could you recommend some of the other assassin fantasies you liked better? I'd be interested in reading them. :)


message 12: by Raquel (new)

Raquel Valldeperas Litchick (is going to Hogwarts) wrote: "@ Raquel: Eep. I suppose if it was a slightly used hardcover for less than two bucks it'd be worth it. I tease, there are some redeeming aspects to this book. The writing is decent and the world is..."

*sigh* I've read enough high fantasy to know what's good or not.. Maybe I'll just skip this one for now. Have you read Marchetta's Lumatere series? I've got Quintana sitting on my bookshelf just waiting to be read, but I'm nervous about it.


message 13: by Raquel (new)

Raquel Valldeperas Selena wrote: "Could you recommend some of the other assassin fantasies you liked better? I'd be interested in reading them. :)"

Selena, I know you didn't ask me, but The Warded Man is a kick ass-assin (see what I did there?) fantasy with strong characters. Although, the main character is a male. Not sure if you're looking for a female MC.


message 14: by Raquel (new)

Raquel Valldeperas Selena wrote: "Could you recommend some of the other assassin fantasies you liked better? I'd be interested in reading them. :)"

Selena, I know you didn't ask me, but The Warded Man is a kick ass-assin (see what I did there?) fantasy with strong characters. Although, the main character is a male. Not sure if you're looking for a female MC.


message 15: by Julio (new)

Julio Genao nothing worse than an assassin fail.


message 16: by Robin (new)

Robin (Bridge Four) Lit too bad it didn't work for you. I still really like Cealena by the end of the book and thought the second was much better. But I have not read the other assassin books you have mentioned to compare it to.


message 17: by Liithium (new)

Liithium Just wanted to put it out there...I absolutly love your reviews! Especially the rants ;-) I was actually about to give this book a try but think I'll rather pass now. Thanks for the heads up.


message 18: by Killian (new)

Killian Fitz from the Farseer trilogies ruined me for other assassin themed books. I love all 9 of those books so much that there can never be another assassin in my life. I had placed Throne of Glass on my tbr "meh it might be interesting" way, but I think I'm just going to slide it right back off now.


message 19: by Reader-ramble (new)

Reader-ramble I read a chapter breakdown of this book, and I don't think I could do it. I just can't buy the awesome-assassin-at-seventeen card. It just doesn't work, unless you're Arya Stark. Even then she went through some seriously hardening training. Foofy dresses, ha!


message 20: by [deleted user] (new)

Thank god I'm not the only one who thought this. I think Maas only dubbed her an assassin just in namesake to make her sound a bad-ass. She doesn't kill anyone. NO ONE in this book. She's is a total moron too. I'm not going to tell all the stupid things she did and the killer was so obvious that I wanted to slap her lamp.

Arya Stark and Valek would dust her ass in a second.


message 21: by Faye, la Patata (new)

Faye, la Patata HAHAHA. Thinking about it now, in hindsight, you are very right. I think I was um too young when i read this, but if I were to read it now, I'd probably see it the same way. Hilarious review!


message 22: by Marlowe (new)

Marlowe Sr. WTF? You don't like a character with multiple dimensions or what? Her character is so DENSE (pun intended) with features that even the holes in my old A-shirt would fall short of the count. ;) (Just kidding of course. great write up btw)


message 23: by [deleted user] (new)

What a fascinating character!!!!

I'll pass.-__-


AnHeC the Paperback Obliterator Oh, come on, can you blame anyone for reading a book? Ever? XD

This makes me sad, because I LOVE assasins in books ^^ *sigh* All the vacuous crap that gets published... Maybe I should pick up writing? I could produce a nice monstrosity, I totally could.


message 25: by Navessa (new)

Navessa @ Mizuki: Exactly.

@ Addie: Oh dear God. Maybe I won't give this a second try then.

@ Selena: In addition to what Raquel recd: The Night Angel Trilogy, Assassin's Apprentice, The Lies of Locke Lamora

@ Raquel: I've got a few of hers sitting on my shelves and I haven't read anything by her yet because I too am nervous. I can't really handle "fantasy light" because I think I've just read way too many high fantasy and prefer them.

@ Julio: True story.

@ Robin: Aw, thanks. I think I just can't handle YA anymore.

@ Liithium: Thanks! And you're welcome ^_^

@ Killian: I need to read the rest of them. I paused at the end of the first trilogy because I was so pissed off but I've heard that they're worth continuing.

@ LeeAnna: Arya is so much more believable in her role. Sadly, she's also much more mature than this MC.

@ Crimson: She. Doesn't. Even. Kill. ANYONE???

@ Faye: I hear you. I'm like that with sooo many books. I just leave the ratings as they are and put a note that they aren't to be trusted.

@ Nidah: Wow. You make me really happy that I stopped where I did. I think if I'd finished it out this would have been an epic rant.

@ Marlowe: LOL. Thanks ^_^

@ S: Wise move.

@ Goose: I love assassins and badasses. I think I've just read too many books with both of them to stomach creatures that claim to be the same but fall laughably short.

@ Anna: I think you could definitely produce a nice monstrosity and you write better than most published authors so you'd probably do pretty well ^_^


message 26: by Navessa (new)

Navessa I'm so alone in my dislike of that book. *sobs*


message 27: by Maqluba (new)

Maqluba I'm glad to see I'm not missing anything. I've always been tempted because I liked the idea of a female assassin but every time I think I want to read this I see that dreaded "YA genre" label and the "love triangle" bookmarks and I run away. Then I think "well with 30 thousand ratings and such a high score maybe it's not as bad as I think" but it's reviews like yours that keep me grounded to reality. Much appreciated:)

Random 2cents: I've gotta recommend Buroker's The Emperor's Edge series because it's my all time favorite fantasy/steampunk and they've got a really scary assassin on their crew. The heroine is funny and badass and the hero/assassin was a believable one.

Great review Litchick!!!:)


message 28: by [deleted user] (last edited Dec 15, 2013 02:15PM) (new)

Litchick (is going to Hogwarts) wrote: "@ Mizuki: Exactly.

@ Addie: Oh dear God. Maybe I won't give this a second try then.

@ Selena: In addition to what Raquel recd: The Night Angel Trilogy, [book:Assassin's Apprentic..."


Nope. Not a one I was sooooooo pissed at that.


message 29: by Maqluba (new)

Maqluba You're not the only one Litchick! I couldn't handle Poison Study:/


message 30: by Navessa (new)

Navessa @ Nidah: Aww, thank you! I think that I just expect an assassin to be, I dunno, more self contained, observant, cold, detached. I blame the high fantasies I've read.

@ Maqluba: The Emperor's Edge sounds awesome! Adding! And it's so nice to not be alone concerning Poison Study.

@ Crimson: Sonofabitch! I'm soooo, sooooooooo happy that I DNFed this.


message 31: by Maqluba (new)

Maqluba @Litchick hope you like it:) (first one's free btw)

@Crimson you've now solidified my choice to ignore this book lol


message 32: by Navessa (new)

Navessa It worked. And good to hear that she does!


message 33: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie A lot of ppl have the Same reaction you've had while reading. I ordinarily should have as well. I think, perhaps (if you really want to challenge your opinion about this MC and her story in particular) if you give the novellas a
Try and the sequel maybe you'll see a little of what you were looking for? There are a lot of annoying things, I agree, that get explained in the pre-TOG world and the subsequent. How far did you get before you decided to quit it? I feel like this story has been one that has gotten better with time and more understanding to the world. It's suppose to be a 6 book series, I think, so there's a lot of growth and improvement to happen for the characters, the authors writing ability, and the story itself, I think.


message 34: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie I wrote my previous comments w/out looking at a lot of the other thoughts commenters left and...gosh, I know this is a place where ppl should be able to express their thoughts, in whatever manner they want, and for the risk of sounding self-righteous, I'm just saddened by the snark and sarcasm ppl feel the need to use in order to justify their opinions. And truly, I think it only managed to make me feel a bit peeved bc a lot of these comments are ignorant to the books history. This story was started 10 years agin and completed online on Fiction Press in 2008. So many things have been changed to satisfy the publishing and editorial requests, ya know? The original story was created for an adult audience and while it was maybe not as strongly written (in the sequencing, editing, and delivery sense) as the current version, a lot of the complaints here (suspension of belief) are regarding things that have a legitimate history. And as far as young ppl being good assassins. There are child soldiers in Africa and other parts of the world who are in deed deadly killers, so I don't, know...Maybe a 17 yo assassin isn't the most unbelievable thing to ever been written in a fantasy book. JS.


message 35: by [deleted user] (new)

Stephanie wrote: "I wrote my previous comments w/out looking at a lot of the other thoughts commenters left and...gosh, I know this is a place where ppl should be able to express their thoughts, in whatever manner t..."

But it's still her opinion no matter what happened in the past. She read it NOW, didn't like what was there, and said she'd pick it up later when she was ready too.

Plus, she'd read other books with the same theme that in her opinion were better.


message 36: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie Um, Crimson, I didn't say she didn't have a right to her opinion. I didn't say that about anyone, actually. I didn't come here to tell anyone how they should or shouldn't express
Themselves, merely voicing my observation and how I reacted to it. And in reference to my opinion of the snark, be it tamer in comparison to the norm of how nasty it tends to get here on GR, it was just something I was pointing out. That a lot of ppl make snarky comments on things w/out considering the full picture. That is all. I was putting the background information on the series out there, as well as the fact that the pre-quells/novellas and the follow up to ToG may give some deeper context to the issues that were brought up in excess throughout the commentary here. That was meant to serve as another perspective in response to the partial views shared.


message 37: by [deleted user] (new)

Stephanie wrote: "Um, Crimson, I didn't say she didn't have a right to her opinion. I didn't say that about anyone, actually. I didn't come here to tell anyone how they should or shouldn't express
Themselves, merely..."


I didn't say that you did. I just said she didn't like it that's all. And I've read the novellas too but still, I found the MC lacking.


message 38: by [deleted user] (new)

Goose wrote: "Hey wait a second does this really go on in a glass castle because wow talk about your design flaws"

Yup they sure do but it's fantasy... it has no logic.


message 39: by Killian (new)

Killian @Maqluba - Just added The Emperor's Edge to my tbr as well. Looks really good!

@Litchick - I am so interested in what pissed you off about Farseer now! You must tell since I don't see a review.

As a side note, I too was less than enthused about Poison Study. Just another book on the list of things-I-don't-get-but-other-people-love.


message 40: by Reader-ramble (new)

Reader-ramble I really liked this chapter review of the book. It's why I know plenty about the book without even having to read it. (Pops knuckles) I've got other books waiting for me.


message 41: by Navessa (new)

Navessa Stephanie wrote: "I'm just saddened by the snark and sarcasm ppl feel the need to use in order to justify their opinions..."

I don't feel the need to use snark and sarcasm in order to justify my opinion. I use them because I'm snarky and sarcastic.


message 42: by [deleted user] (new)

Addie wrote: "Stephanie wrote : I'm just saddened by the snark and sarcasm ppl feel the need to use in order to justify their opinions.

@Stephanie- I'm sorry how your opinion on other's opinions make you this ..."


Thank you for saying what I could not.

@LeeAnna My goodness I went there and read the summaries. They were so spot on I could not stop laughing.


message 43: by Navessa (new)

Navessa LeeAnna wrote: "I really liked this chapter review of the book. It's why I know plenty about the book without even having to read it. (Pops knuckles) I've got other books waiting for me."

Holy crap. Yup, don't think I'll ever come back to this.


message 44: by Reader-ramble (new)

Reader-ramble Her chapter reviews are always spot on. I love them, and wait eagerly every weekday for her next Mockingbird one. I loathed that book. I'm currently go through her archive.


message 45: by Navessa (new)

Navessa I think I need to do the same, endless amounts of entertainment.


message 46: by Reader-ramble (new)

Reader-ramble Litchick (is going to Hogwarts) wrote: "I think I need to do the same, endless amounts of entertainment."

That's how I see it.


message 47: by Stephanie (last edited Dec 16, 2013 03:11PM) (new)

Stephanie Addie wrote: "Stephanie wrote : I'm just saddened by the snark and sarcasm ppl feel the need to use in order to justify their opinions.

@Stephanie- I'm sorry how your opinion on other's opinions make you this ..."



Actually, Addie, my feelings aren't hurt bc of other ppl's opinion of this book. And my sadness is nothing to loose sleep over. "Sad" as in dispiriting and tired (to witness), bc enough ppl have voiced being turned off reading something for themselves based on what I observed as limited views on the whole (in this case, but in general). To be clear, I feel this way about the GR community overall, not just the comments here on Litchick's review of ToG.

I'm not asking anyone to consider my feeling when voicing their opinions of works I've liked that they haven't, which would be totally arrogant and self-absorbed. Further book reading is a subjective experience. So I'm not an idiot to think everyone will like something or receive it the same way.

I can say what I want, just like you all have. So please spare me the condescension. I didn't ask anyone to justify their opinions. I simply was expressing that a lot of what was being said in the commentary (about ToG specifically) seem to come from a place of limited knowledge on the series and work as whole, thus my reasoning for bringing up its history, the novellas, and future works---for anyone who was on the fence or wanted some more information with more perspective (more being additional, not "better").

It's an overall feeling with what comes across as the constant need to be nasty and or snarky to to voice said opinion. It's an Internet and social networking epidemic. But I do remember saying that everyone is entitled to expressing those opinions however they want to. It's just as a book and reviewer reader, it gets tiring to see that book reviews/commentary have been evolving as a bloodsport for who can write the snarkiest review for shits and giggles, especially when it taking on a limited approach. And just so I'm clear, that is not to say that I found your review like that, Litchick. Again, it was the commentary, which albeit tame, still has tenets of that sort of attitude overall.


message 48: by [deleted user] (new)

Stephanie wrote: "Addie wrote: "Stephanie wrote : I'm just saddened by the snark and sarcasm ppl feel the need to use in order to justify their opinions.

@Stephanie- I'm sorry how your opinion on other's opinions..."


Then why waste you're time reading these what was that you wrote?

"it gets tiring to see that book reviews/commentary have been evolving as a bloodsport for who can write the snarkiest review for shits and giggles, especially when it taking on a limited approach."

That is what I don't understand.


message 49: by Reader-ramble (new)

Reader-ramble Stephanie wrote: "Addie wrote: "Stephanie wrote : I'm just saddened by the snark and sarcasm ppl feel the need to use in order to justify their opinions.

@Stephanie- I'm sorry how your opinion on other's opinions..."


That is one of the reasons why I posted the link to that one reviewer that I did. She works as a manuscript editor part time, and so she breaks down books that way, with concrete evidence. I have learned so much about how things should be represented in text versus how they are represented. She also tries very hard not to take personal stabs at the writers, and just does a textual analysis.

Also, speaking as someone who has done snarky reviews, I do it to keep myself from crying and/or swearing profusely. And trust me, the tame ones are better than someone who gives the book one star because there is swearing, or sex, or blood. Or all three. Seriously, I've seen some truly stupid reasons for hating books.


message 50: by Navessa (new)

Navessa Stephanie wrote: "Addie wrote: "Stephanie wrote : I'm just saddened by the snark and sarcasm ppl feel the need to use in order to justify their opinions.

@Stephanie- I'm sorry how your opinion on other's opinions..."


Blocked because I don't feel like reading a fucking novella every time I get a notification on this thread. Normally I have more patience but as I'm currently experiencing a high volume of trolls, I'm short this week. Mmkay, thanks for coming out.


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