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message 1: by Fiona (new)

Fiona Lapham This book takes place three days after the first book, not six to nine months after.


message 2: by Sabrina (new)

Sabrina Fiona wrote: "This book takes place three days after the first book, not six to nine months after."

OH! That makes it even worse. And I did say it was at most 6-9 months late. That was giving a significant benefit of the doubt to the author. I couldn't determine an exact time frame because it was just so awful. But thanks for the clarification. :)



message 3: by Kamran (new)

Kamran Warsi You clearly missed the point. Everything he has been through forces him to mature much faster than most. There is even mention many times about how much he has changed in such a short time.

As far as his love interest, that would show he is just a young boy at heart as he falls in love with the first pretty girl to say 2 words to him. Also, she may be hundreds of years older but she is an elf! She hasn't aged!!


message 4: by Sabrina (new)

Sabrina Kamran wrote: "You clearly missed the point. Everything he has been through forces him to mature much faster than most. There is even mention many times about how much he has changed in such a short time."

If I missed the point it is because the "author" is so horrible at getting his point across.

It doesn't matter that his love interest is an elf. Looks and physical appearance have nothing to do with what I'm talking about. You're contradicting yourself here and proving my point. Either he's a young boy, impetuous and immature, or he's a wizened, seasoned warrior who was forced to grow up because of everything he's been through.

Can't have it both ways.


message 5: by Kamran (new)

Kamran Warsi Why can't it be both ways? He has matured in many ways because of battles, near death experiences and loss but love and lust are things he is yet to experience. Therefore, he has not matured in that aspect. Besides, what someone's age is has nothing to do with love. And it does matter that she is an elf. That is the whole point she looks, talks and acts like someone much younger. Her age is meaningless.

As far as the author being horrible at getting his point across, as I said, its mentioned numerous times. Not sure how else he should have got it across. You just disagree that he should mature that way so you chose to ignore it.


message 6: by Sabrina (new)

Sabrina Are you saying that age does not grant life experience and wisdom that can only be achieved through actually living it? Age is not meaningless, as with age comes maturity and the ability to make educated, responsible decisions. Do you really think that an elf woman, a trained warrior with this enormous responsibility of transporting the last known Dragon's egg back and forth for the past several decades, dealing with all the hardships and crises that would entail is a good match for a 13-year old? You honestly don't think that her experiences and maturity over the past 100 years or so wouldn't put her in such a higher level of maturity than Eragon's really stressful past couple of months? My point is that even *IF* Eragon had matured rapidly, he still has a lot of catching up to do and will never live long enough to even come close to her life experiences.

I disagree with the disregard Paolini has for his own characters. And part of that is the way things develop. It feels too "convenient" and almost strikes me as the easy way out. Just saying the words that he has changed so much in a short time is not enough when the character reverts back to thinking and acting like a 13 or 14 year old boy whenever the elf is around. (Or whatever he was supposed to be. I've forgotten now, thankfully.)

Regardless, I do not like Paolini's writing style, descriptions, plots, characters, or devices. Therefore, I will admit to a certain amount of bias. I found nothing worthwhile about this book and for the majority of the time, I was pissed off while reading it. I kept hoping it would get better, that something would happen that didn't feel so recycled but it never did. So perhaps I overlooked some crucial word or phrase that would have clarified everything. However, when the author is too full of himself and his ability to make up a language and there are more made-up words than worthwhile ones that develop the plot, what's the point of the book? Kindling, in my opinion.


message 7: by Kamran (new)

Kamran Warsi Ok, first off, I completely agree on the language thing. That was on of the reasons, I gave this book 3 stars. Secondly, I think the reason him falling for an elf didn't bother me is because she raises all the objections you just did. The only point I disagree with you on is character development. He is older than 13 at this point and falls for the first girl who is pretty as I mentioned.

The whole love at first sight and overcoming all of the woman's objections is a large part of any traditional fantasy.


message 8: by Sabrina (new)

Sabrina I agree that the romance aspect to fantasy often encompasses the reluctant woman and working against the odds. But for me, that whole subplot in this book was poorly developed and just didn't sit well. It just seemed very brash, roguish, scoundrel (aka Han Solo or Aragon) meets and falls for refined, classy, out-of-his-league princess (aka Princess Leia or Arwen). Only much less believable in this case.

I realize that all modern fantasy has roots in Tolkein, but this whole book just felt so recycled and unoriginal. The only original part was the language, which is why I think Paolini was so pleased with himself that he had to include page after page of it.


message 9: by Dan (new)

Dan Pallas im not going to go through your entire rather poor if i dare say review but i will say one thing. eragons character is mid 16 during eldest i would say that yes he may have sexual attraction to someone at that age. if you have any kids then you may notice they do get attracted to people after about 13 14 and by the time your 16 its about the same as when your 18 19. and arya is an elf so therefore looks more around eragons age anyway. also its only around a 100 year difference not 100s


message 10: by Sabrina (new)

Sabrina Dan wrote: "im not going to go through your entire rather poor if i dare say review but i will say one thing. eragons character is mid 16 during eldest i would say that yes he may have sexual attraction to som..."

You are certainly entitled to your opinion as much as I am entitled to mine. I really don't have a huge problem with his teenage lust for the older woman. It's just another eye-rolling moment in the entire HORRIBLY written book. I wish I'd never heard of this series or this author. He's ranked right up there with Stephanie Meyers in my opinion.

And this isn't a review; this was my opinion and feelings about the book. Thank goodness I didn't commit to actually reviewing this thing. What a horrible waste of time that would have been!


message 11: by Madison (new)

Madison Chabot id like to see you people write a four story series


message 12: by Matthew (new)

Matthew Ratte It was refreshing to read a book discussion between Sabrina and Kamran without running into the constant personal attack that many commentators resort to (i.e. Dan Pallas). Thank you


message 13: by Julian (last edited Dec 04, 2014 03:20PM) (new)

Julian Whaley I really enjoyed reading your comment. I fond many points that I agree and disagree with. First, I do believe that Eldest did not live up to its potential, and was not as good as Eragon, although I don't feel as strongly about that as I can see you do. I also agree that he does seem to portray Eragon as someone that I think that he really shouldn't be. I would like to argue, however, that the different languages adds to the book. There are different people with different histories, so of course they would speak differently. I would also like to say that Eragon was very similar to some other famous works, Eldset seems to take a turn away from that (except maybe Star Wars). Finally, I would like to point out that you said you didn't read the entire book (in the 10th comment), and so you probably don't fully understand how the book turns out, and if it is actually worthy of praise, or if it is more like how you have portrayed it.


message 14: by Joe (new)

Joe Jackson "This story takes place at most 6-9 months after the end of the first book, in which Eragon was a very young teenager"

It is actually supposed to pick up right after the first book ended. Not even 6 months have passed since the first book began when you pick up Eldest, unless I'm mistaken.


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