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message 1: by Megan (new)

Megan Reading this currently too


message 2: by Steph (new)

Steph Sinclair How far are you? Are you liking it?


message 3: by Megan (new)

Megan I'm 300 pages in and I loveee it!! Such a relatable book!!


message 4: by Steph (new)

Steph Sinclair Oh wow! That's awesome! I hope I end up loving it as much as you. I'm still in the beginning and hoping to devote more time to reading it this weekend.


message 5: by Jennifer (new)

Jennifer You'll have to let me know how it is (obviously by your review, DUH Jennifer). I didn't like Landline and DNF'd Eleanor & Park. But my co-blogger loved Attachments (or perhaps it was this one but I don't remember).


message 6: by Jane (new)

Jane i saw your review on eleanor and park, curious on how this book turns out for you. i hope you like it, because I did, flaws and all.


message 7: by Gigi (new)

Gigi You should post a review for sure. I defiantly had some problems with this book so I am curious what you will think of it.


message 8: by Steph (new)

Steph Sinclair I'm thinking I probably will review this one.


Shut Up, I'm Reading. oh snap! That last update though XD


message 10: by Kate (new)

Kate Copeseeley Wow, that good huh? hahahahaha Tell me you at least liked Baz and Simon?


message 11: by Melanie (new)

Melanie Was it really that bad? :(


message 12: by Steph (new)

Steph Sinclair @Kate, There wasn't enough of Simon and Baz for me to actually care about them. Like, I don't hate them, but I don't love them either. Also, did Cath finish Carry On? RR kinda left that open.

@Melanie, it's not a terrible book, but just didn't do much for me.


message 13: by Melanie (new)

Melanie I'm sad that you didn't like it. :(


Category Is: Book Review Realness! This book doesn't seem like my thing either. Hope your next one is better


message 15: by Jaime (new)

Jaime Arkin Sorry you didn't love this one Steph - Have you read Landline? It's adult fiction so a bit of a different feel than her YA stuff.


message 16: by Steph (new)

Steph Sinclair @Melanie, The Lady Inquisitor... me too, but happens to the best of us.

@Jamie, I did. It was just okay for me. I don't think I'm a fan of her writing style.


message 17: by Zaria (new)

Zaria I knew I wasn't the only one,this book,I couldn't even finish (still trying to) in my opinion it's way too hyped up


message 18: by Kellyflower (new)

Kellyflower I agree Zaria


message 19: by Brigid (last edited Jan 27, 2015 08:36PM) (new)

Brigid I've kinda just guessed that her books aren't for me a while back. From other reviews, I've gathered that her characters are quirky. I don't do quirky. Unfortunately.


message 20: by Steph (new)

Steph Sinclair Yeah, the hype around this book. I can kind of see it, but Eh. I don't know. Different strokes for different folks.

@Brigid, I don't think I do either. Oh well.


message 21: by Morgan (new)

Morgan I picked this up in a bookstore once and then decided it wasn't for me. Seems like I was right!


message 22: by Dahlia (new)

Dahlia It's funny because I enjoyed this more than you did, I think, but despite that, I stopped reading her after this one, too; her books are, for me, too based on character relationships I don't find believable. I'm too conscious of the fact that the characters are crafted for each other and it just saps the magic out for me.


Kerri (Book Hoarder) Aww, I'm sad that you didn't enjoy it. But you're so right about how learning what sort of books work for us as readers! I do like good plot driven books but I also love me some character focused books and self discovery and all that.


message 24: by Sophie (new)

Sophie I feel weird about not unconditionally loving Rainbow Rowell. I really liked E&P and Fangirl, but I could not get into her "adult" books. Attachments was especially grating to me.


message 25: by Amerie (new)

Amerie I am so interested to see how this read goes for me. It's been on my shelf and I've been meaning to get to it, but I especially want to get to it now to see how I feel about the things you mentioned. I'm with you: I love character-driven stories but that's just it: I need STORY aka PLOT. Character studies without plot don't really do it for me. :/ Also, I thought the same thing (that it was interesting the fanfic story would be published when it actually is kind of real HP fanfic, right?). But I haven't read FANGIRL so I don't know how close the Simon Snow story is to HP.

Sidenote: I saw a pic online of someone having a Sailor Moon themed wedding and you popped into my head first thing! ^_^


message 26: by Katie.g (new)

Katie.g Great review Steph. I read this last year and even though I gave it 4 stars, I totally get where you're coming from. I actually like character driven stories. The best ones are a combination of the two. But the complete lack of plot was a bit much and I also thought having Harry Potter in the same universe was unnecessary. We don't need someone to spell it out for us. I'm a bit nervous about reading Landline now. Already bought it.


message 27: by Gieliza (new)

Gieliza Hmm...I'm not a character-driven reader either and this one's on my TBR. Altho character-driven books work for me sometimes, so there's a 50/50 chance that I'd like this at least. Also, I'm very curious about it because of the fandom element.


message 28: by Angela (new)

Angela I didn't even finish this book, but I agree SO much! Cath was the most boring person, ever, to read about. And while I love characters, they're the number 1 thing I love in a novel, I still need something to happen.

And the Simon Snow/Harry Potter parallel with HP existing, too? Ugh. Doesn't make sense! Did not like.


message 29: by Amber J. (new)

Amber J. I totally feel you on the whole plot-less stories thing. It's almost like being duped in a way -- the author knows all the events and dialogue and little details don't really mean anything and aren't going to lead you anywhere.

I should have waited for your review, but I already bought it after seeing so many high-rated reviews.


message 30: by Frantrele (new)

Frantrele After reading "Landline," that may be my first and last book by Rainbow Rowell. I don't get the hype!


message 31: by Steph (new)

Steph Sinclair @Dahlia, that's s good point. The characters do seem to exist only to compliment each other. Feels a little too staged.

@Kerri, yeah, I really wished I could have loved this more.

@Sophie, was it that you didn't comndct with the characters? I find that each of her books are written for a certain kind of reader and tends to not work with others.

@Ameriie, I'll be interested to hear your thoughts! For me, character-driven stories work the best when the focus is romance. Otherwise, I don't have much to cling to. Some people say the Simon Snow isn't HP fanfic, but just a homage to HP. But I don't know, it's very similar and right from the first page saw the similarities. (OMG! A Sailor Moon wedding! I would die. Now to convince my husband to renue our vows as Usagi and Tuxedo Mask)

@Katie, I definitely agree about a combination of both character-driven novels and plot-driven being ideal. It just makes for a more interesting and stronger novel for me. I really wish HP wasn't mentioned at all! I don't understand why she added that.

@Gieliza, I was interested in it for the same reasons, but surprisingly, aside from the occasional Simon Snow fan fic passages, Rowell doesn't really delve into fandoms. It's just used as something else to develop Cath as a character and give an excuse to her quirky, Hobbit-like behavior.

@Angela, She got better as the novel went on, but it's mostly because their were more scenes with Levi and therefore, infinitely more interesting. Cath could not carry this novel on her own and wasn't an overall strong character, IMO.

@Amber, exactly! She never actually does anything with all the details and doesn't give much resolution in any of her stories. I just can't deal with that level of unfulfillment.

@Frantrele, I liked Landline okay, but yeah, it definitely suffered the same issues as her other novels. If you disliked Landline, there's a strong chance her other works might not work for you either.


message 32: by Farhin (new)

Farhin Great review Steph. Glad you learnt something from the read


Aimal (Bookshelves & Paperbacks) I think your review is very well thought out. Great job! I actually really loved this book, mainly because I'm more of a character over plot person, and I agree with everything you said about how real her characters are. But I also agree that this book lacked in a refined plot, and the fanfic did nothing for me either. :) Sad to hear you were disappointed, but great review!


message 34: by K.M. (new)

K.M. Montemayor I read this a while back and liked it, but after reading your review I'm really questioning why I rated it as high as I did. I liked the writing style and some of the characters were relatable and endearing. But you're absolutely right. Plot is MIA.


message 35: by LostForReal (new)

LostForReal I was the same. The hype is big but I tried and failed. It is surely a great book. Just not for me.


message 36: by hayden (new)

hayden what a great review!


message 37: by P. (new)

P. Kirby I love this book, but I agree, it's a plot-free, character study. It worked for me because I saw so much of my younger self (and even current self) in Cath. But, if I hadn't related so hard to Cath, I probably would have written the novel off as a couple hundred pages of navel gazing.


message 38: by Liz (new)

Liz Great review, very argument driven ;) I am kinda unsure whether to give this one a try or not because while I am very often into character-driven books, I have my problems with dorky humour (or humour in general, I am a serious reader) and "plain" characters who try to be witty... Would you recommend the book to a reader like me? :D


message 39: by Natalie (new)

Natalie I actually enjoyed Fangirl, but I also agree with everything? And I'm so not excited about Carry On. Also, I did NOT get one with Eleanor and Park. So am I half a hipster?


message 40: by Katie (new)

Katie Tingle I felt like this too. Didn't love it as much as everyone else. Was a little disappointed. Maybe because I went in with so high hopes? I haven't read her other books, so I can't comment on those- will prob read them though knowing me!


message 41: by Sophie (new)

Sophie I hated the premise of Attachments. In real life, a guy who hasn't been on a date for 9 years and hasn't gotten over his first love would set off my alarm bells so bad. And I was puzzled by the email conversations. If the friends work together, wouldn't they just chat, and not email?

I did love Fangirl, but I found Cath's degree of shut-in-ness (not wanting to go to the cafeteria, not having a single internet friend) hard to believe. And I'm a pretty advanced shut-in myself.


message 42: by AnnMarie (new)

AnnMarie Oh crap! I have had this story in my kindle forever, just haven't gotten around to it but bought it because there was so much love for it, especially reg the fandom which I love.

Hmmm...well I suppose one day but doubt I will move it up my TBR list.

As always, love your reviews and you have been my guiding light for so many stories I have been on the fence about.


message 43: by Katy (new)

Katy Great review! I read Fangirl last year (and may re-read it again this Spring for inspiration in my own YA writing) and really liked it, but as you pointed out - the circumstances surrounding Cath weren't strong and I kept expecting the story to go further/deeper. Similarly, I thought this one was far better than Eleanor and Park (which I felt was a collection of lovely sentimental sentences about what it means to struggle/falling in love as a teen) and Attachments (which was just sorta creepy).


message 44: by Wendy Darling (new)

Wendy Darling I liked this one better than you did (3.5 stars), but I'm totally with you on the plot thing. I never feel satisfied with the way her books end. Also--I read a review recently that pointed out that "manic pixie universe" should be coined for her books, which made me laugh, but is also so true.


message 45: by Amelia (new)

Amelia I skipped all of the fanfiction sections. This book could have been condensed down to 200 pages because, as you said, there is virtually no plot that occurs. I did a lot of skipping and scanning for actual action to occur and I was ultimately disappointed. Plus, though everyone else was adequately developed, Cath came off as a caricature of book fans/fanfiction writers/fangirls. Much of what she did or was characterized by was textbook fangirl stereotypes. I guess it really was Levi and Cath's relationship that kept me going through to the end, because if that hadn't existed, I probably would have left this unfinished.


message 46: by Mary (new)

Mary Oh THANK YOU!!!! I thought I was the ONLY one who didn't adore this book!!!


message 47: by Gigi (new)

Gigi I know how you feel about the Rainbow train. EVERYONE I know is obbessed with her but me... Not so much. :)


message 48: by Stephanie (new)

Stephanie It's funny, I agree with a lot of what you said in your review, even though I really liked the book. Lol. Very well written review.


message 49: by Steph (new)

Steph Sinclair Thanks everyone. It's really very interesting that even though many of you loved this book, agree with some of my points. I'll be interested to hear what you guys think of the Simon and Baz story when it comes out. Are any of you planning on picking that up?


Kerri (Book Hoarder) Steph wrote: "Thanks everyone. It's really very interesting that even though many of you loved this book, agree with some of my points. I'll be interested to hear what you guys think of the Simon and Baz story w..."

I just heard about that and think it's kind of weird, to be honest :/ I didn't really mind the HP references in the books, unlike some people here, but I'm not sure how it's going to translate to being an actual book...

Also, I just discovered Simon Snow fanfiction while I was on Google looking for the title of the book and that's just a bit too meta for me...


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