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message 1: by Elisabeth (new)

Elisabeth Have you read Oates' The Falls? I've had that on my to-read list for ages... I understand that the Love Canal mess is a part of it.


message 2: by Ted (new)

Ted This is the first book of hers I've ever read! So far I think it's pretty good.


message 3: by Carole (new)

Carole Gee, I really liked that book. Hoope you enjoy it.


message 4: by Ted (new)

Ted I like it a lot so far, and I'm over half finished.


message 5: by Carole (new)

Carole Ted wrote: "I like it a lot so far, and I'm over half finished."

When you get a chance, send me your and Barb's email addresses, which I have lost. Thanks.


message 6: by Teresa (new)

Teresa Maybe Oates does this all the time, maybe it’s a patented quirk of her writing,

I've read a lot of Oates, though none recently, and I can't think of anything -- except for being prolific! -- that is patented for her. And I have seen other writers do this (i.e. leave out the 'and' in that type of sentence construction) but not when it's the same exact verb following the comma.

And about your last spoiler, Ted, it's been a long time since I read this novel, but I agree with your thoughts about Michael. I don't think it's ridiculous speculation at all.


message 7: by Teresa (new)

Teresa Oh, yes, and this may be very off-base because, as I said, I haven't read this in some time, but I'm remembering I thought that Judd when he's in his slightly omniscient 3rd POV is, as any writer would have to do, filling in the blanks (i.e., guessing) when it is something he couldn't have known.


message 8: by Ted (new)

Ted Teresa wrote: "Maybe Oates does this all the time, maybe it’s a patented quirk of her writing,

I've read a lot of Oates, though none recently, and I can't think of anything -- except for being prolific! -- that ..."


Thanks Teresa for your comments, they are interesting and helpful for my own knowledge. I'm quite enthusiastic about reading more of Oates' books now, though I understand that some think "Mulvaneys" to be her masterpiece?

Have you read others that you like as much or more than this one?


message 9: by Teresa (new)

Teresa Ted wrote: "Have you read others that you like as much or more than this one? "

Do they? I thought the reaction was more mixed than that. Well, anyway, I don't really know about considered masterpieces, but I loved her "Them" and "Because It is Bitter, and Because It is My Heart."


message 10: by Ted (new)

Ted Teresa wrote: "Oh, yes, and this may be very off-base because, as I said, I haven't read this in some time, but I'm remembering I thought that Judd when he's in his slightly omniscient 3rd POV is, as any writer w..."

He does say right up front that some of it is guessing on his part (cute, as if he's a real person). Anyway, yes you are right.


message 11: by Ted (new)

Ted Teresa wrote: "Ted wrote: "Have you read others that you like as much or more than this one? "

Do they? I thought the reaction was more mixed than that. Well, anyway, I don't really know about considered maste..."


It was just taking that from marketing blurbs on the back and inside of the book. You're probably right, of course they didn't display negative or ambivalent comments. I'm such a sucker for good reviews of a book.


message 12: by Kris (new)

Kris I've been feeling the need to read some JCO lately, Ted (are you reading my mind? :) ), so I'm going to prioritize this novel based on your recommendation. I'll bookmark your review and return to it after I've read the book. Thanks for the timely review. :)


message 13: by Ted (new)

Ted Thanks Kris, hope you enjoy it as much as I did.


message 14: by Kris (new)

Kris I trust you! I see 5 stars from you, and I usually add the book right away (unless I've already read it).

Speaking of which, I have my copy of I Could Read the Sky sitting next to me. I'm planning to read it this week. I've been waiting until work settled down, and I'm now officially in a lull for the upcoming months, so the timing is right. Thank you so much for bringing it to my attention.


message 15: by Ted (new)

Ted Kris wrote: "I trust you! I see 5 stars from you, and I usually add the book right away (unless I've already read it).

Speaking of which, I have my copy of I Could Read the Sky sitting next to me. I'm plannin..."


Wow, I'm glad you have a copy of that book, I think it's the most moving book I've read in quite some while. Even if one couldn't even or didn't even read the words, the photos are wonderful.

Hope you have a wonderful time reading this summer!


message 16: by Kris (new)

Kris Thanks Ted! I'm hoping the same for you. What books do you have on deck atm?


message 17: by Ted (new)

Ted Well I'm still in the process of finishing Buddenbrooks, and have one of the last Aubrey-Maturin novels to read soon. Also need to do a review of East of Eden, which I enjoyed very much. I would like to read a Virginia Woolf book, don't know if I currently own any but have several on my to-read shelf. And of course I started and finished To Kill a Mockingbird while on my current "vacation" trip to Minnesota.

I know, retired people like me are always on vacation. But when you actually go somewhere it's more like a real vacation used to be. :)


message 18: by Kris (new)

Kris Oh, I adored East of Eden. I was so happy to see your updates go by when you were reading it! Looking forward to your review.

I'm planning to re-read a lot of Virginia Woolf this summer, so if you want to do a joint read at some point, just let me know!

And of course retired people can go on vacations! I agree -- there's something special about travelling. And I love Minnesota, especially the northern areas with all the forests and waterfalls -- up past Duluth. Please say hello to MN for me! And let me know vacation highlights.


message 19: by Ted (new)

Ted Kris wrote: "Oh, I adored East of Eden. I was so happy to see your updates go by when you were reading it! Looking forward to your review.

I'm planning to re-read a lot of Virginia Woolf this summer, so if yo..."


We did a drive up past Duluth a couple years ago, on a trip to MN when we drove though the Upper Peninsula to get here. My wife has done a canoe trip in the Boundary Waters area many decades ago I think, I never have.

(We took three trips to MN last summer, a record! This is the first this summer, there will likely be one more (only) later.)

I'm sure I would slow you down in a read together, Chris. But I'll let you know when I decide which of Virginia's books to read.


message 20: by Teresa (new)

Teresa Kris wrote: "Speaking of which, I have my copy of I Could Read the Sky sitting next to me."

Thanks for mentioning this, Kris. I went and read Ted's review and then promptly ordered the book!


message 21: by Barbara (new)

Barbara Glad to see you rated it so highly as I ordered this book a few months ago from Paperback Swap.


message 22: by Ted (new)

Ted I hope you enjoy it when you get around to reading it Barbara.


message 23: by Dolors (new)

Dolors Read the review in bits and pieces to avoid spoiler because I want to read Joyce Carol Oats. Might start with Mudwoman which I already own and continue with this one. But I did love the "laughed, laughed" quote in the "And one more thing section. There's a musical quality and a lyrical repetitiveness that attracts me very much, Ted. Quite an original piece of writing to deliver your impressions on what appears to be a remarkable book in many ways.


message 24: by Ted (new)

Ted Dolors wrote: "Read the review in bits and pieces to avoid spoiler because I want to read Joyce Carol Oats. Might start with Mudwoman which I already own and continue with this one. But I did love..."

Dolors, this was a wonderful novel; unfortunately it's been the only novel I've read by Oates! I thought it was quite a ride read (... well, ride also). I wish I could just let myself go and sit and read two or three novels by one writer one after another. But it seems to be against my nature. 8(


message 25: by Annie (new)

Annie Know how curiosity killed the cat? Well, I read the first spoiler, and the second and yes even the third!
Cool review! Makes me want to pick up the book right now, but I guess I'll have to let some of the information drain first!


message 26: by Ted (new)

Ted Annie wrote: "Know how curiosity killed the cat? Well, I read the first spoiler, and the second and yes even the third!
Cool review! Makes me want to pick up the book right now, but I guess I'll have to let som..."


I think if you wait a few months there shouldn't be much danger, Annie. The structure of the novel is such that you'll become immersed in the story the way she tells it soon enough. Hope you enjoy it.


message 27: by Nancy (new)

Nancy LOL!


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