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message 1: by Fil (last edited Mar 15, 2012 12:39PM) (new)

Fil Food for thought yes, chuckles no. The futility of it all made me think of Moscow 2042 and a bit of right now. As in when the government (snicker) sent me a letter saying "Our records show you have blah blah blah... please send proof." and I asked myself:" Aren't their records proof enough?"

Paper pushers is all they are and all they will ever be.


Marti.chenaultgmail.com Long and boring. Sorry I read it


message 3: by Anya (new)

Anya Levkovich You mean Moscow 2012. Hah!


message 4: by Lynn (new)

Lynn Beyrouthy You seem to be the only one who shares my opinion omg god bless you.


message 5: by Fil (new)

Fil Yeah, I despise it. It was already crappy but add the shitty ending with the knife and 'The Trial' made my all-time most horrible novels of all time (with 'Atlas Shrugged' and 'The Prophet'). As if even government stooges would be that stupid.


message 6: by Lynn (new)

Lynn Beyrouthy The Prophet by Khalil Gebran? He's a Lebanese author so I'm prone to be a little condoning with him. :P Haven't fully read The Prophet yet though.


message 7: by Franco (new)

Franco Zappavigna #1 if you're referring to the prophet by khalil gibran, its hardly a novel. its just an assembly of awesome poetry. #2 this book was laborious at best. the only partially captivating part was where the priest gave that little speech at the end. 2/5


message 8: by Zadignose (last edited Mar 15, 2013 01:58AM) (new)

Zadignose I don't even know how to get into this right now, but after seeing how much I relate to the books you like and dislike, I can't believe you would so brutally trash an absolute literary brilliancy like this. Of course, it's admirable to have one's own opinion and be an iconoclast, and so on, but you seem to treat the book as if it were on some level a literal tale. I also don't see how you could take such a humorless perspective on the work of the creative mind without peer, who is also the most profound appreciator of the absurd.

Maybe I'm not equipped to describe my feelings about Kafka and this book at the moment, as I'm burnt out on too much posting, but to me Kafka is the pinnacle of great literature.


message 9: by Fil (new)

Fil But this is a tale, fiction if you will, and I thought it horrible for many, many reasons. Yes there are themes here, it's just that the way he conveys them is boring, uninteresting... to me.

You clearly have your reasons, other than Kafka's reputation, for why you liked it. With that in mind, I will never think something is good based on reputation alone. It has to deserve the label. If that makes me an iconoclast so be it. I respect myself way, way too much to like a novel (or anything else for that matter) simply because others thought it brilliant (think 50 shades). What's important is having reasons for my opinions - I do.

I compared our books, this one really does stick out, doesn't it?


message 10: by Khosro (new)

Khosro Wow, incredible that you read the whole book and got almost everything wrong. "Jackass" gets arrested.? ... I wonder why after a few pages you went on reading.


message 11: by Zadignose (new)

Zadignose P.S., looking back a year later, I hope my message didn't come across as an attack. Just aiming to engage on a topic that interests me. If you were interested in approaching a short story or two, I know some folks who are discussing Kafka's tales right around now: https://www.goodreads.com/topic/group...

But only if you're interested in such a thing.


message 12: by Fil (new)

Fil Khosro wrote: "Wow, incredible that you read the whole book and got almost everything wrong. "Jackass" gets arrested.? ... I wonder why after a few pages you went on reading."

Speaking of getting things wrong Khosro I wonder why you wrote on my review...


message 13: by Fil (new)

Fil ... oh and "Jackass" was arrested. Maybe you should read it again pal.


message 14: by Fil (new)

Fil Zadignose wrote: "P.S., looking back a year later, I hope my message didn't come across as an attack. Just aiming to engage on a topic that interests me. If you were interested in approaching a short story or two, I..."

Nah, you're fine Zadignose. My reply could also be viewed as such, sorry about that.

I like discussing ideas such as the legitimate use of power (as in the ever-increasing use of the 'I do this because I can' ideology), the ubiquity of government and other themes present in 'The Trial'. My preference would not include referring to it though; 1984, V For Vendetta or Watchmen would be better examples.


message 15: by J (new)

J This is not an allegory about gov. or society, the trial is life, and the law are existential questions that will never be answered. I guess you are not indicted. Good for you, really.


message 16: by J (new)

J *the law is, or the laws are -- sorry


message 17: by Fil (new)

Fil Good observation Jason but but saying The Trial is life is somewhat incomplete. 'Life" is "life in a society', no? And as such we do live under government control (benign or otherwise). I haven't thought about this book in a long time but I do remember a sense of 'What's the point of all this' and if that really is the end goal of The Trial it still does not make it any less of a mess (to me).

By the way, thank you for an opinion with a point... unlike that clueless person at message 10.


message 18: by EarlymanX216 (new)

EarlymanX216 I just started reading this novel and I also have the same opinion as you. Seems like a never ending stupid story full of only nonsense.


message 19: by Fil (new)

Fil It's supposed to be absurd, it is closer to ridiculous... and awful.


message 20: by Hélder (new)

Hélder Souza Well... it is intended as an analogy to life itself. Not as a simple novel. And to anyone interested in reading, read the unedited version of the book.


message 21: by Fil (new)

Fil Thank you for the suggestion but I still have nightmares about this one...


message 22: by Johnny (new)

Johnny Depp OMG finally someone has the same opinion.
The majority said that the book is awesome but I think it's a piece of shit.


message 23: by Melissa (new)

Melissa Neuberger Spot. On. I used your review on my book club chat board because you nailed this.


message 24: by Fil (new)

Fil Melissa wrote: "Spot. On. I used your review on my book club chat board because you nailed this."

Cool but also this: your poor, poor book club, having to endure my crappy review of this crappy book!


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