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message 1: by Toni (new)

Toni Wow, excellent review. I must have breezed through this book too quickly. Now that I’m getting older I’m beginning to have sleep difficulties as well. Meditation is just not working yet. As for teenagers, he’s absolutely correct. You explained that perfectly. Thanks.


message 2: by Darlene (last edited Aug 16, 2018 05:59AM) (new)

Darlene Fascinating review, Trevor! I found the part of your review about the early start time of schools particularly interesting. It has seemed to me for a long while that schools have become effective day care centers for many parents who need to get to their jobs. Because of the lack of affordable child care, schools seem to fill in as child care centers. Plus, for many American children, school is sometimes the only place where they can obtain meals during the day... free or reduced- cost breakfast and lunch. It becomes apparent that schools have become day care centers when parents are faced with 'snow days' or late starting times because of inclement weather. This often leaves parents scrambling to figure out what to do with their children. I agree with the author of the book you reviewed in that sleep deprivation is harmful but since schools serve so many purposes for students, it's hard to see anything changing.

Anyway, I enjoyed your review!!:)


message 3: by Glenn (new)

Glenn Russell Excellent, Trevor.

One observation: I always thought it idiotic that high school students in the US start school so early (so there's time in the afternoon for the really important stuff -sports). Every time I see students waiting for the buss in the morning, all the guys are yawning.


message 4: by Trevor (new)

Trevor Thanks Toni, Darlene and Glenn

I should have mentioned how bad alcohol is for sleep too, something else I didn't know and had always assumed the opposite.

But it is really true, we seem to have structured life and work so as to be about as unhealthy for us as we can make it.


Helen (Helena/Nell) Ok. Gonna have to read it.... :-)


Helen (Helena/Nell) Half way through. Good grief. So much I didn't even KNOW!


message 7: by Trevor (new)

Trevor I know, I had exactly the same reaction. It’s all a bit terrifying.


~☆~Autumn♥♥ It is terrifying but has helped me. I started taking less melatonin earlier. I have always had insomnia due to night time asthma so sometimes I just have to sit up and sleep in the daytime.


message 9: by JZ (new)

JZ While I was listening to Terence McKenna on YouTube, and fell asleep, I woke up to, of all people, the author of this book, talking about all these topics. Since it was dark, I just listened, and didn't watch. I have no idea what the urls are, but you can doo the gooogle. He's really interesting, and his q&a sessions are quick and fascinating.


message 10: by JZ (new)

JZ “People say, 'I'm going to sleep now,' as if it were nothing. But it's really a bizarre activity. 'For the next several hours, while the sun is gone, I'm going to become unconscious, temporarily losing command over everything I know and understand. When the sun returns, I will resume my life.'

If you didn't know what sleep was, and you had only seen it in a science fiction movie, you would think it was weird and tell all your friends about the movie you'd seen.

They had these people, you know? And they would walk around all day and be OK? And then, once a day, usually after dark, they would lie down on these special platforms and become unconscious. They would stop functioning almost completely, except deep in their minds they would have adventures and experiences that were completely impossible in real life. As they lay there, completely vulnerable to their enemies, their only movements were to occasionally shift from one position to another; or, if one of the 'mind adventures' got too real, they would sit up and scream and be glad they weren't unconscious anymore. Then they would drink a lot of coffee.'

So, next time you see someone sleeping, make believe you're in a science fiction movie. And whisper, 'The creature is regenerating itself.”
― George Carlin, Brain Droppings


message 11: by Monica (new)

Monica Good review. Bill Gates listed this as one of his top 5 2019 books. You were earlier than him.


message 12: by Trevor (new)

Trevor Hmm. One of my least favourite people. In a rational world what he has done to the public education system in the US would be seen as crimes against humanity and he would be put out of harm’s way.


message 13: by Monica (new)

Monica Trevor wrote: "Hmm. One of my least favourite people. In a rational world what he has done to the public education system in the US would be seen as crimes against humanity and he would be put out of harm’s way."

Because of your comment, I went to google Bill Gates and public education, and understand that his foundation underwrote a pilot to evaluate teachers based on student's test scores. Was this what you were referring too? If so, I think this way of evaluating teachers is not not useful and in fact, counters the holistic needs students needs and development. I am from a country (I am not from USA) where this is done in some way, and some teachers stress and obsess over their students' test scores and passing rates because their performance rating depends on it. This is not right.

I recall a doctor once complained publicly in my country that she had been given KPIs to see a certain number of patients in a day, and that this contravenes good care as she needed to spend more time with some patients.

So thank you for your comment.


message 14: by Trevor (new)

Trevor And this and so much more, I'm afraid. An excellent book to read on what Gates is doing to US education is Reign of Error: The Hoax of the Privatization Movement and the Danger to America's Public Schools. An excellent review of this is by my friend Cliff https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...

I meant to review that book after reading it a year or so ago when I was doing research into Teach for America, but must have gotten distracted by other things. Gates uses his fortune to do more than just impose ridiculous evaluations on teachers, but also to impose a common core curriculum that narrows what kids learn to the point of boring them to death. He also seeks to make education 'teacher proof' - mostly by replacing teachers with software. He has supported the growth of charter schools and Teach for America - both of which actively undermine public education. These are quite simply crimes, and a rational society would treat them as such, and given the US locks up people with gay abandon, you might think a they could make room for one more - but in the US the rich are allowed to do what they like. We should be grateful that the US is a far away and across oceans from us, Monica, although the world is increasingly getting smaller, so perhaps even that may not be enough to save us from the likes of Bill.


message 15: by Oleg (new)

Oleg Trevor, you have to read this: https://guzey.com/books/why-we-sleep/


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