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message 1: by Ian (new)

Ian My wife and I cuss without regard to whether our children (ages 6 and 7) are present. We are teaching them that there's no such thing as an inherently "bad" word; there are only words that kids aren't allowed to use yet.

We liken it to alcohol to help the kids (and some grownups) understand. For example, wine is not an inherently "bad" drink. By itself it causes no evil. But kids aren't allowed to drink wine because they're not yet ready to handle wine's effects responsibly. So it is with words like shit and fuck. One could certainly use shit and fuck irresponsibly, even hurtfully, just like one could use wine irresponsibly, even hurtfully. But neither wine nor shit and fuck necessarily cause or contain any evil.

I'll never understand people who think a certain combination of sounds is inherently bad. Like Eric says, if you are offended by that combination of sounds, then you are making a choice to be offended.

message 2: by [deleted user] (new)

Ceridwen does like it. I saw somewhere that they're making a sitcom of this book - with William Schatner as the dad, natch. I find this...confusing? For sure it's going to be sanitized pablum.

I get much more worked up when the kids use the word "stupid" on each other - although I've never really seen them say "fuck you" to one another, and that would make me mad too. Words have power, yes, absototallutely, but the power is in the usage and not in the word itself - with some exceptions, I think - like words that are only used as slurs. But then, it gets back to usage, I guess, because they can't be used another way.

I love the image of you in the car laughing and driving off the road! I mean, drive safe Eric!

message 3: by Eh?Eh! (new)

Eh?Eh! He has a facebook page that he updates with gems from his dad and photos - Dad's got caterpillar eyebrows!

message 4: by Ian (last edited May 27, 2010 08:52AM) (new)

Ian My wife and I don't have a problem with the word "fuck" but I would never say "fuck you" to my wife. Like you say, Ceridwen, it's about the usage. That's pretty much what I was getting at with the alcohol analogy. I could also communicate something to my wife that would be much more hurtful than "fuck you" without even using the word "fuck," or any other so-called cuss words for that matter. But I won't because I don't want to communicate anything hurtful to her, regardless of the specific words involved.

Honestly, though, if you heard your kids say "fuck you" to each other, wouldn't you want to laugh? Even just a little?

And I agree about slurs. Actually I consider the C-Bomb to be a slur inasmuch as I've never heard it used in any way other than derogatory.

message 5: by [deleted user] (new)

C-bomb is interesting, because it's seen as stronger here in the States than elsewhere. The Brits use it much more casually. I've seen it used in lit well too: Lady Chatterley's Lover is the obvious example, altho it's pretty pivotal in Atonement too.

Oh, just because I'd be mad & would deliver a sermonette about not saying "fuck you" to each other, I'd be laughing into my hand. :)

message 6: by Traveller (last edited May 13, 2012 09:02AM) (new)

Traveller Shit, I like this review! ;) I do have a sub-level though. Personally i don't mind saying shit and crap, and I do occasionally drop the f-bomb myself. (Not usually in the internet though - I have to be really angry).

But i don't like it, i do think it shows a certain level of crudity, and the c-word is even worse.

Ouch, and i've been known to use that word upon occasion as well... but what are cuss words for then, if not to express your anger? if you didn't find them rather coarse and unacceptable, would they still hold the same power to express anger or disgust, i wonder?

message 7: by Eric_W (new)

Eric_W I had occasion to refer back to my review recently, and I do like my first paragraph. That being said, the overuse of "fuck" and similar words shows a lack of imagination. Now George Will really knows how to insult. I absolutely LOVE what he called Donald Trump: a"bloviating ignoramus." Now that's trenchant, much better than calling him a fucking idiot, which is what I would have done.

message 8: by Braveheart100 (new)

Braveheart100 You are completely right! And yes, bullshit is an amazing word

message 9: by Jim (last edited Jan 15, 2015 08:26AM) (new)

Jim Interesting that C#^t is more "casual" across the pond than here (it seems still, to my 56-yr-old ear, to be a pretty filthy word - and not used that often).

"Bloody" is one of my favorites - and that is (or was) jarring to the British ear.

At a party, I once referred casually to a friend as a "wanker" - his South African wife was shocked (ca. 1990).

I have been known to passionately mutter when distressed "God Bless America!" - which my son thinks is pretty funny (he's 18).

I remember a time when "crap" was in fashion with me, my sis, and the neighbor kids (all aged 10-14). This was so repetitive that it wore on our respective parents who finally objected. The dad once remarked that when his wife (rarely) cursed it was especially effective.

I agree that George Will has great facility with the language, but perhaps another George - General Patton - is amongst the all time champions. He was said to have the legendary ability to dress down a subordinate so colorfully that he could utter "oaths" for five minutes without repeating any of them.

message 10: by Eric_W (new)

Eric_W Jim wrote: "Interesting that C#^t is more "casual" across the pond than here (it seems still, to my 56-yr-old ear, to be a pretty filthy word - and not used that often).

"Bloody" is one of my favorites - and..."

Great story about Patton!

message 11: by Pranav (new)

Pranav F*ck you

message 12: by Miquel (new)

Miquel Reina Great review Eric_W!

message 13: by Sri Krishna (new)

Sri Krishna It is bad for the small kids because they are looking for role models and you are teaching bad thing but for big people good.

message 14: by Thomas Ross (new)

Thomas Ross Hey, I'm not really bothered by those words, but your not pleasing God right now. You all need to please God with your words and keep in mind that God is always watching.

message 15: by Judy fisher (new)

Judy fisher This book is wonderful book dghvc

message 17: by KIERSTEN MORIN (new)

KIERSTEN MORIN Any way you could send me any of your books including this one on here

message 18: by Gaige (new)

Gaige Fuck is actually that of Germanic origins, originally meaning "striking or to strike". So if they're offended it is an ignorance to fact or an unwillingness to look.

message 19: by ezhra ugay (new)

ezhra ugay its actully nice

message 20: by renee lipton (new)

renee lipton delete Sh

Ellen V Bacharach fucking good book bro

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