My favorite part of the interview was when we discussed my experience at Columbia, because Rogan came to the dangers of the woke movement earlier than most. His core insight was that the current generation is able to withstand so little adversity and reverts to shouting and crying so easily because they’ve never had to endure truly hard times, like all earlier generations have. “Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times” was the bit of wisdom he shared with me (from the novel Those Who Remain, by G. Michael Hopf).
