Some pilots weren’t so willing to let the matter drop. In Shanghai that fall, a couple of Boeing trainers ran into a pilot from American Airlines, who laid into them for “the lives that we cost” in Indonesia, as one of the pilots later described the uncomfortable encounter. “Hey, hold on,” the Boeing pilot responded, cautioning him to wait for more evidence. Back in Seattle, he joined a half dozen fellow Boeing trainers for a briefing about how the MCAS software worked from Patrik Gustavsson, the former Ryanair pilot who had traded frustrated messages with Forkner two years earlier. Gustavsson
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