Toward the tail end of our interview, Kari confessed rather profoundly: “I have to disclose to you that we do belong to that club. So we’re guilty of enjoying that.… Sometimes there are some people I don’t like to tell that we belong to it … we don’t always divulge it depending on who we’re talking to.… We were having dinner with neighbors [but] we just don’t like to divulge that we belong to that club because it’s very expensive to join it, we just don’t want to look like we’re privileged people.”

