Somebody brought [me and Jamie Hector] to meet Russell Simmons once at a party or something like that. The elevator doors opened, and there was Russell. I guess he was going someplace and we were going to meet him. It was like his breath stopped and he took a step back before he realized it was just us. I always forget the power of us being together because so many people have seen us together in certain circumstances, and it’s usually not good.

