Complete Works of Pindar
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According to Pindar the lions seem to have been still more alarmed, being startled by Battos’ foreign accent.
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our pilgrimage to the everlasting centre-stone of deep-murmuring2 earth.
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bought his father’s flight by his own death.
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The field of poesy.
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What country, what house among all lands shall I name more glorious throughout Hellas?
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Sounds like pindar is athenian
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Peace, daughter of Righteousness,
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great,
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In times of peace a city can prosper as did egypt whise peace was guarded by the desert
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sinkest Insolence in the sea.
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A metaphor of hopelessly irrevocable loss as a ship lost at sea
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precious
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Perhaos a clearser translation could be rare which is easy to understand
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the noble temper of thy sires shineth forth in thee.
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Cf dr. Gail smiths lecture comparagtive politics regarding the Attic pressumption that virtue and ingnobility are hereditary. And the cited book by Lape
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I went up to the earth’s centre-stone, renowned in song, and showed forth the gift of prophecy
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Pindar claimed prophecy
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these things lie not with men: it is God that ordereth them, who setteth up one and putteth down another,
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Therefore it is fitting to serve god with apropriate rites like at the sacrificial altar
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shrink
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Awww
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Things of a day — what are we, and what not? Man is a dream of shadows.
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Men areshort livedvis a vis gods who have ever controled the world and what the world gives to men. So men ojught to i ngratiate the gods through reverence and service
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The nymph, protectress of the island.
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A very intseresting notion. Each city has a divine being connected to and interested in protecting it. Its also interesgting that its nkot called a god but only a nymph. What mighgt this mean? Maybe its less popular and universal in that its purview is a mere city vis a vis a god woukd effect some phenomenon over the entire world like the motion of the sun of falling of all rain. Maybe too this is why the nymph doesnt have a name independant of the city. i wonder if ift was thought that each nymph somehow begat the original inhabitants of their particular city. Like how athenians were thought to have arose from the onanism during a rape of one god against another. This seems likely by pindars appelation here of mother. This is a fun explanation of the origin of the species of men
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Telesikrates bearing the shield of bronze,
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Why did he bear bronze technology 500 years after steel was popular in greece
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the third part2
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Am i right in remembering the third part to be a phrase in Mikrah or Mishnah gto mean highest quality land
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hero whose father’s father was the Ocean-god
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Divine lineage of a hero
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bronze javelins
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Maybe this bronze item refers to an old story originating in the bronze age or at least a recent story given a flavor of an ancient one
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How many leaves the earth sendeth forth in spring, how many grains of sand in sea and river are rolled by waves and the winds’ stress, what shall come to pass, and whence it shall be, thou discernest perfectly.
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Omnicience in greek myth
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old god
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ample-bosomed Earth5
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A reference to the femenine fecundity of earth in response to the masculine seminal rains?
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they were fain to cull the fruit whereto her gold-crowned youth had bloomed.
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joined
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Officiated Marriage betwen them
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He wrote it when he was twenty years old.
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envious repentings
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Maybe he means to warn against acting with hubris which would make the gods envious of his good fortune and then the gods will repent to wit the gods wil change tgeir mind and reverse his fortunes
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brazen heaven,
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Whats brazen heaven? Does it mean resolved of purpose? Maybe it means beautiful and illumi nated like a shiny metal surface. If so this might explain why pindar ascribes the quality of bronze to wdeapons used by victors who lived 500 years adter the spread of steel into greece; he means beautifully shiny it woukd be interestin g to research the original word in the greek version
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wondrous way.
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Wondrous way to the company of the gods
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they were sacrificing ample hecatombs of asses to their god.
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The bible speaks only of sacrificing to god animals which were normally eaten by the people. I assume tgat as today, donkeys werent eaten in greece. if so i wonder if greeks sacrificed nonfood animals. Mybe pindar alludes to thjis when he subsequently calls them strange beasts. Or maybe they ate donkeys. Or maybe asses is an innaccurate translation or else an imprecise word which can include beef or mutton
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braying
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Nemesis.
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the Earth-navel
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I think an earlier ode used this phrase
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black death
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the art which once on a time Pallas Athene devised, when she made music of the fierce Gorgon’s death-lament.
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Aitnaian Zeus.
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this teeming Sicily he would exalt to be the best land in the fruitful earth,
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for the hopes of much-labouring men seem to me even as mine.
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Cf. Sefer hachinuch in offering a reason for tge prohibition against seli g a countryman pn the block into slavery that it may happen to you to that you might become impoverished one day and sold into slavery and then you wouldnt want to bear the shame of standing for sale on the block. Also the talmud in explanation gthat the poor may bring their child to help collect extra portions of field margin gifts bec its fair bec likewise others could do the sme and bring their child to grner additkional portions
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with his twin-brother,
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Contemporary retsellings of hercules make no.mention of a brother
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Teiresias
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Is he the prophet in oedipus king?
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lawless monsters
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A curious epithet for monsters but essentially a very reasonable synonym for wild
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Pankration see Dict. Ant. It was a combination of wrestling and boxing, probably with wide license of rules.
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Nemeaian Zeus
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divine Muse, our mother,
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stranger-thronged,
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Maybe an epithet of commercial success
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hear thy call.
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Through the inspiration which u give to me
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but victory in the games above all loveth song,
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So says the ode author. Although this text is meant for public consumptkion so it likely he wouldnt exaggerate his importance, riskimg dierect public dispproval
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to the voices of singers and to the lyre.
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In text in instuction of how the ode was performed
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O my soul,
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Soul in hebfrew is synonymous with an animating spirit ruakh which can simply mean intent or inspiration as was complained to the prophbet "ill bring the king here but the ruakh of gid will have carried you off to that which i wont know" in Kings. Likewise in the vision of the chariot the ruakh as the driving force of the chariot if i recall correctly if so oh my soul could be another invocation to tyhe muse mentioned above
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By inborn worth doth one prevail mightily;
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Cf susan lape on the Attic idea of heriditry virtue
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Achilles of the yellow hair,