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How did "Dracula" make it on the "Romanian literature" list??

If Bram Stoker is on this list, then we should add "The Castle of the Carpathians" as well. If it has on the cover something like: "translated by..." it doesn't belong here. Just saying.

Seregil wrote: "How did "Dracula" make it on the "Romanian literature" list??"

You shouldn't be so surprised by the mistake. Even though the book doesn't belong to the Romanian literature, the book is centred on a Romanian historical figure,which inspired the author, let alone the geographical context and many other aspects.

Raisa wrote: "Seregil wrote: "How did "Dracula" make it on the "Romanian literature" list??"

You shouldn't be so surprised by the mistake. Even though the book doesn't belong to the Romanian literature, the boo..."
I really don't agree with that. The main reason is that is has almost nothing in common with the historical reality. The second important reason is that when you talk about Romanian/American/French/... literature you don't include any novels written by foreign authors. The focus is entirely on what kind of novels the people of that country or the speakers of that language have produced.

Seregil wrote: "Raisa wrote: "Seregil wrote: "How did "Dracula" make it on the "Romanian literature" list??"

You shouldn't be so surprised by the mistake. Even though the book doesn't belong to the Romanian liter..."

You are 100% right. That is why I mentioned it was a mistake. The only thing I wanted to highlight in this matter was how the mistake took place. It is not right to add the book to this list, I agree,because there is someone else's merit and effort and the result of the author itself can't be categorised as being of Romanian literarture nature. Despite all that, we tend to be very proud of this book, but you don't have to interpret it as being something selfish. We have a great predisposition to arts in general, therefore our literature is, I dare to say, great. As a curiosity and proof of my statements, you can acknowledge that the longest and, in my opinion, most ingeniously written love poem in the world is Romanian, world-wide known as "The Evening Star".
P.S. I strongly recommend it, I'm almost sure you'll like it.

Raisa wrote: "Seregil wrote: "Raisa wrote: "Seregil wrote: "How did "Dracula" make it on the "Romanian literature" list??"

You shouldn't be so surprised by the mistake. Even though the book doesn't belong to th..."

Let's say I am a foreign author. I write a book in Romanian. Is it Romanian Lit? I don't think so. Let's say I'm a Romanian author. I write a book in French. Is it Romanian Lit? I think it is because of the author. Now, about "Dracula": Irish author, Irish book. And I really don't know if most Romanians are proud, as you say, of this book. And it really doesn't matter: it is not a piece of Romanian Literature. I understand the mistake, but it remains a mistake.

Heathcliff wrote: "Raisa wrote: "Seregil wrote: "Raisa wrote: "Seregil wrote: "How did "Dracula" make it on the "Romanian literature" list??"

You shouldn't be so surprised by the mistake. Even though the book doesn'..."

I do not think proud is a good word. I think most Romanians (myself included) are annoyed by the book because it presents lies about our history. I won`t even go on a rant about Tepes and where he ruled. If you write something that involves facts from history at least get the history part right.

Crina wrote:

It's a work of fiction, don't be upset about it. It's not presented as a history book. But if you want to start a Tepes fan club I'll be the vice president.
I think "Dracula" is nothing compared with the german pamphlets published even in his lifetime(if I know the facts right)and shortly after his death.

I know it is a work of fiction and I understand why he picked Tepes and the Carpathian Montains, I just find it a little annoyind. I love history in general and when someone takes some facts from it and twist them, it just irks me. And you are right. "Dracula" has nothing on the german pamphlets.

Crina wrote: "I know it is a work of fiction and I understand why he picked Tepes and the Carpathian Montains, I just find it a little annoyind. I love history in general and when someone takes some facts from i..."
Let's say again that I write a book about a certain vampire named Henry VIII. He had several wives and he lived somewhere in England. His ancestor was Attila the Hun and he had superpowers like Batman. People from England will recognize the historical figure even if I add that he was green and had a house on Mars. I bet the feedback from England will be negative. Same story with our Tepes.(Name and nation picked at random; I love English history.)

Bram Stoker's book was deleted from this list a long time ago.

can i find any of these in english? (beside 'Dracula' of course, lol.

Dracula isn`t a romanian book:P but no I don`t think you can find them in english. It is rather hard to translate romanian books or poetry in another language and plus there isn`t a requierment for them in other languages unfortunately.

Checked for duplicates: 13 books removed.

Mikhail Bulgakov, 'Black Snow' removed: Russian author.

Edlira wrote: "can i find any of these in english? ..."

Herta Müller's work has been translated into English and so has Gregor von Rezzori's work.

I've added two of Gregor von Rezzori's books. He was born in Czernowitz, the Bukovina, in the former Austria-Hungary monarchy. Chernowitz is now part of Ukraine, but it hasn't always been so and because of this shifting of borders I've added two of his books. Besides, Gregor von Rezzori was a Romanian citizen for a while because of all this.

There are a lot of books in this list which are not part of Romanian literature. Romanian literature simply means literature written in Romanian and there are a lot of books here not originally written in Romanian. They might be written by authors born in Romania and/or (some) by authors who have also written in Romanian, but I think the following books do not belong to the list simply because they're not written in this language: 57, 83, 88, 91, 133, 134, 158, 163 (two of them - Florescu & Geran Pilon), 181, 192 (once again two with the same number - Florescu & Rezzori), 200 (Rezzori). Also, nr. 61 & 200 (Cioran - Pe culmile disperarii) is the same book.

Gogu wrote: "Romanian literature simply means literature written in Romanian ..."

Hmmm.... See languages of Romania. But we can agree to disagree.

Booklovinglady wrote: "Gogu wrote: "Romanian literature simply means literature written in Romanian ..."

Hmmm.... See languages of Romania. But we can agree to disagree."

Thank you for your reply. Of course we can agree to disagree :)

My point was the list should have a criterion (in the form it has now it certainly hasn't). My point was that the criterion of language is the only one that works as long as the list is called "Romanian literature" and not "literature from Romania" or "literature about Romania".
It is really very easy: H. Müller (excepting her poems from "Este sau nu este Ion"), G. von Rezzori or C.D. Florescu are not part of Romanian literature the same way as, say, Joseph Conrad is not part of Polish or Ukrainian literature. That doesn't mean they cannot appear in a list titled "literature by authors born in Romania"or "literature by authors who wrote books about Romania"
If the language criterion is not taken into account, then the list could very well comprise hundreds of Hungarian (and German) writers (who are born in Romania and who also may have written about Romania but NOT in Romanian). And that would mean the authors from the Republic of Moldova (Vieru, Dabija, etc.) should be deleted from the list because they might not be born in Romania or lived here and may not necessarily have written about Romania but the Soviet Union. I'm just trying to show how silly this would be.
I hope I did make myself more clear.

Later edit: Thought of another comparison, maybe it is even more clear: "The Luzhin defence" or "Mashenka" by Nabokov are Russian literature while "Ada" or "Pale fire" are English literature the same way as Ionescu's "Nu" is part of Romanian literature (criticism) but his plays are part of the French literature. It simply doesn't have anything to do with citizenship or the place somebody is born or his ethnicity. It is only about the language in which a certain work is written.