Dark Days Dystopian for the Not so Young Adult

Now or then or looming again, it is sometimes good to read and feel tragedy. But often times the darkest of the genre is made a mockery by poor characterizations and story lines more involved in maintaining sexual tension than developing a plot or bringing a deeper meaning to life. These stories from the dark side bring thought, character, meaning and developed plots. Some better than others, but all worthy reads. Beware of the nonfiction. Sometimes the truth is darker that fiction
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message 1: by Andrey (new)

Andrey Love this list!


message 2: by Daniel (new)

Daniel Mala Thanks, It's a tough genre to navigate with all the not so hot books in play.


message 3: by Andrew (new)

Andrew Obrigewitsch Good list, but there a are quite a few books on there that are not Dystopian, like IT, The Magicians and it's sequel, Lord of the Rings, anything by Anne Rice, anything by Al Gore, and all the Zombie/Vampire books on the list.

Thank god Hunger games is not on this list.


message 4: by Daniel (new)

Daniel Mala Andrew wrote: "Good list, but there a are quite a few books on there that are not Dystopian, like IT, The Magicians and it's sequel, Lord of the Rings, anything by Anne Rice, anything by Al Gore, and all the Zomb..."

Perhaps… But I see it differently. I reject genre precedence as having any meaning whatsoever. Dystopia does have a definition…

a society characterized by human misery, as squalor, oppression, disease, and overcrowding.

So my list crosses some of the better of the genre with books that both nonfiction and fiction and are excellent reads for those with a leaning towards topics of "society characterized by human misery…"

By definition I would argue that Les Miserable is one of the earliest and most engrossing piece of dystopian literature. I would also venture that anyone who enjoyed the hell out of Wool Omnibus might never think to read Les Miserable, but if they did they would likely find it right up their alley.

I get that Dystopian as a genre generally excludes vampires, killer clowns, egotistical self absorbed magicians, zombies, global warming, collapse of the financial system, and the like, but that just makes the genre narrow to the definition because all these topics take place is societies filled with human misery. Some fiction… some not…

That said, I focused mainly on putting up books that are great reads on the dark side. I didn't realize that people could add to my list here, but what the hell.

And I read Hunger Games… Fits the genre, but didn't make the list. Sort of a formula book… teenagers being treated poorly with punishment unfitting… this being the girl that is split between two boys variation that milks the sexual tension for 3 books. (There are also the boy split between two girls versions of this formula out there.) Whatever! It doesn't really push the literary envelope now does it.

Thanks for the thoughts!

Dan...


message 5: by Daniel (new)

Daniel Mala INTENSIONS OF THIS LIST UNCHAINED...

I don't know if this will be read by anyone, but when I set up this list I didn't realize that anyone could add to it. Since any good read members can I think that is cool is some ways and then not so much in others and then there is a part of me that is perplexed. Maybe I can make this into a book review topic, though instead of books it would be reviewing how listopia works.

So I'll get out the part that is not so cool so I can focus on the cool and perplexing. My point of this list was to have a list that wasn't filled with YA formula books. Now admittedly I'm not really against these books. I've read many of them. They are usually quick reads and I get to roll my eyes at predictive plots and stupid sequences that involve trying to figure out who your sole mate while being chased by zombies or some other equally gruesome threat.

However, I wanted this list FOR THE NOT SO YOUNG ADULT to not be adulterated with books whose target audience is the 13 year old girl. So my list is not only defiled with "Life as we Knew it.", but the whole ridiculous "Last Survivors" Series. So I ask that people think to themselves prior to putting a book on this list, "is the likely reader of this book a 13 year old girl?" and if the answer is yes go put your book on some other list. Plenty of options out there. Good God, next someone will put on "The Adventures of Winnie the Pooh"!

So, that's out of my system. On to the Cool. I do love that people put interesting books on this list. As I dubbed it a list that travels outside the genre of dystopia into more of a definitive dystopian collection. That meaning any story set in a society charactered by human misery is a contender. Someone put in "A Tale of Two Cities". Not my favorite, but exactly where I was going with this list. Excellent literature for grown ups that like books with a hard edge.

Now, the perplexing. How in the hell does this ranking system work anyway? It's a little crazy in that "The Road" (arguably the best book ever written in this genre), "The Stand", "Ready Player One", "Neuromancer", (I can go on)... all these are great books that have been rated by 10's or 100's of thousands of people. I think it is great that what appears to be new authors throw their books on this list and can say their's my book with 208 ratings on the same list as some of the great literature of this type. However, it appears that there is some weird trick to get your book to the top of the list. One of the 9 books placed 33 on this list has 11 ratings and only 1 person voted for it and it's ranked higher than "MaddAddam", "The City and The City" and "The Dog Stars". Hell it is ranked even higher than the 13 year old girl book collection. At least a few thousand 13 year old girls took the time to read those books and rate them.

I do like seeing these books on my list as I'm always down with catching some new author on the upswing. Love that I was in early on the "Silo Series". Hugh Howey is a great story teller. But let's be real. I seriously doubt that "The Meat Market" and "Alien Species Intervention" are by any literary standard deserving of the top seats on this list. I haven't read them so I could be wrong. In fact, I may actually read them some day and may just love these books. I'm just saying, on this list they would have to be spectacular to hold the true top position. I'm sure that if they were above the caliber of say "The Road", there would be a bigger audience reading and rating these books.

So if you read this you may be the only one. Under no circumstances should this post be placed on the list. Under the bizarro rating system it may knock out the top seed.

Always appreciate thoughts...

Dan....


message 6: by Shadowjac (last edited Oct 13, 2015 09:32AM) (new)

Shadowjac Daniel wrote: "INTENSIONS OF THIS LIST UNCHAINED...

I don't know if this will be read by anyone, but when I set up this list I didn't realize that anyone could add to it. Since any good read members can I think ..."

I removed some young adult books from this list including the life as we knew it and its sequels, and the maze runner.
Do you want me to remove the giver?


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