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253 books · 45 voters · list created January 9th, 2010 by Reese (votes) .
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Comments Showing 1-20 of 20 (20 new)

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message 1: by Harold (new)

Harold Griffin Reese,

Wanted to vote for "A Prayer for Onan Meany," but couldn't find it!


message 2: by Harold (new)

Harold Griffin Also,

A shame "The Cain Mutiny" was never written, with or without an apostrophe.


message 3: by Harold (new)

Harold Griffin I thought I had removed Japheth before, and have tried again removing it as well as CME.


message 4: by Harold (new)

Harold Griffin By the way, do books written Onanymously count?


message 5: by Reese (new)

Reese Harold wrote: "By the way, do books written Onanymously count?"

Yes -- if certain requirements are met.
1) Apostrophes are used correctly.
2) The work has an ISBN number.
3) It is not nonfiction.
4) And in homage to Lobstergirl's commitment to standards, I insist that the book have FEWER THAN one thousand pages in it. Also, Thom and I would appreciate your avoiding works in which the unidentified author uses "different than" instead of "different from" (despite the general acceptance of "different than").
Best,
Onan'mis


message 6: by Lobstergirl (new)

Lobstergirl There is an alarming amount of biblical paranormal romance out there.


message 7: by Lobstergirl (new)

Lobstergirl Deleted.


message 8: by Reese (new)

Reese Lobstergirl wrote: "Deleted."

I appreciate your help.


message 9: by Reese (new)

Reese I may grunt and groan about readers' choices, but I don't ordinarily spend time trying to understand them. We don't vote for a book because we haven't read it or because we didn't appreciate it or because we don't like other works by the same author or because we've never heard of the author or because we don't think the book belongs on the list or because we think that a vote for a less-than-great book diminishes the greatness of the great books, etc. Of course, of course, of course.

But my lone vote for ALAN AND NAOMI, the book at the top of my list, has sent me into "why territory." I certainly didn't expect others to rank it ahead of the classics on the list or ahead of the well-known works that don't merit the label "classic." The surprise is that the ONLY vote for this powerful book came from me. So -- I'm wondering whether or not those who voted have never heard of it, didn't like it, or didn't appreciate it enough to vote for it. And if no one has heard of it, does this say something about what we do and don't encourage prepubescent kids to read? ALAN AND NAOMI is a disturbing book, but we recommend many disturbing books to children who are ten-twelve years old. Is there a tendency to avoid material about kids with serious mental health problems? Do folks want to discourage young readers from confronting the long-lasting effects of persecution? I'm hoping that my questions will elicit responses other than "You're spending too much time thinking about this matter." I already know that. Any information, instructive insights?
Thanks,
Rdbot(Reese)


message 10: by Lobstergirl (new)

Lobstergirl I have never heard of this book. Is it well known? Part of the prepubescent canon?

My reasons for casting votes often differ from list to list, so I'm afraid I can't claim to be consistent...


message 11: by Reese (new)

Reese Lobstergirl wrote: "I have never heard of this book. Is it well known? Part of the prepubescent canon?

My reasons for casting votes often differ from list to list, so I'm afraid I can't claim to be consistent..."


The basis for my selections may be related to the list, and the basis may also change as I consider others' choices and explore the reasons for my own choices. I certainly don't strive for consistency.

I appreciate your letting me know that you have never heard of the book. That tells me that it must have a very limited audience. Perhaps it received more attention twenty years ago -- when my children were in elementary school???

If I haven't read a book a few times, studied it, or taught it, it has perhaps a 10% chance of staying with me. Because ALAN AND NAOMI had that staying power (I read it only once to my kids), I can't understand why it is an unknown work.



message 12: by Harold (new)

Harold Griffin Sorry to say, Reese, that I never heard of A&N, even in the days I was finding and selecting books to read to my little dinosaur eggs as they were hatching.

As to the bigger question, my votes on these lists are all over the place. Sometimes I make serious value judgments, listing only books I know well, in the exact order of their perceived merit. Other times, where the list seems to call for it, I go scrounging around the internet to add titles with which I'm completely unfamiliar but which fill the bill, to help fill out an interesting list. If someone wants a list of books with the greenest covers, or with a Biblical name in the title, I don't feel I'm being asked to list the greatest literary work in that category, just something that will generate a diverse, relatively complete and in any case interesting list. In the case of those kinds of lists, I usually (but not always) try to find books no one else has listed, and am not prone to vote for someone else's book unless it strikes me at the second as a particularly clever, amusing or otherwise striking choice.

I'd say that if you're really itching to receive serious literary judgments about the"best" or "greatest" books in a particular category, you should be very specific in how you define your list.



message 13: by Reese (last edited Jan 13, 2010 09:21AM) (new)

Reese Harold wrote: "Sorry to say, Reese, that I never heard of A&N, even in the days I was finding and selecting books to read to my little dinosaur eggs as they were hatching.

As to the bigger question, my votes on..."


Dear H,

Thank you for discussing the factors that determine your selections and affect your decision to add
(or not) titles to a list. I also appreciate your recommendation concerning ways to elicit desired responses.

As I indicated in my reply to Lobstergirl, finding out that voters are not familiar with ALAN AND NAOMI has been helpful, so thank you for sharing this information with me.

Reese



message 14: by Y-zona (new)

Y-zona where do i fit or when are you going to aknowledge me


message 15: by Reese (new)

Reese Y-zona wrote: "where do i fit or when are you going to aknowledge me"

I don't understand your comment. To whom is it addressed? What is supposed to be acknowledged?
Rdbot


message 16: by Mir (new)

Mir I hadn't heard of A&N either.

And I'll echo Harold's explanation -- if the list doesn't indicate a value judgment (best, worst, favorite, etc) I try to add things that aren't on it or are less known.


message 17: by Reese (new)

Reese I appreciate your contribution to the discussion of (1)readers' unfamiliarity with A&N and(2)factors that determine readers' voting decisions.
Rdbot(Reese)


message 18: by drowningmermaid (new)

drowningmermaid I have read (and loved) A&N; I'll give it a vote here. Read it only once, in middle school (quite some time ago) and I still remember it and how emotionally powerful it was. It might have been one of the greats that was forgotten-- don't think it won many awards, although it should have.

But I'll say this: if you hadn't said something, I wouldn't have voted for it here. Not because it isn't one of the best books on the list, but because the whole prospect of listing books based on whether a characters' name correlates with the OT strikes me as mildly humorous. So, when I vote, it's more likely to be based on 1)is the OT reference deliberate? or 2) is it any fun to point out that it IS an OT reference?

Also... Ethan Frome? Where is there an Ethan in the Old Testament? Or a Zenobia? A Mattie?


message 19: by Reese (last edited Jul 15, 2010 11:33AM) (new)

Reese The name "Ethan" can be found in several places in the Old Testament (e.g., Psalm 89, First Chronicles 2:6, 2:8, 15:17, 15:19). Zenobia and Mattie -- I don't think so. But the mention of "Ethan" can give ETHAN FROME a place on the list.

Whatever the list, a GR voter's choices are based on his/her own criteria. I think that the questions that you raise to determine what books you vote for are interesting and thoughtful. Obviously, not all voters will make use of your questions when they vote, but I hope that voters will at least consider your criteria.

I'm glad that you shared your response to ALAN AND NAOMI.


message 20: by drowningmermaid (new)

drowningmermaid A&N is an excellent book that I've been meaning to re-read.

And I'd completely forgotten about Ethan the Ezrahite! Thanks for the pointer...


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