Romances with forced seduction or rape by the hero

I am less interested in "bodice rippers", especially ones written in the 70s or 80s, and more interested in contemporaries, paranormals, and recently-written historicals. Erotica/erotic romance welcome.

There are several sources online with book suggestions, I am trying to gather them all in one place.
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message 1: by Andrew (new)

Andrew Pritchard I seriously cannot imagine anyone who would rape or forcefully seduce someone else as being either romantic, or a hero. Really, this is so pathetic!


message 2: by JennyG (last edited Sep 10, 2013 11:17AM) (new)

JennyG Are you sure about Gold Ring of Betrayal by Michelle Reid? I don't remember either rape or forced seduction.

And also in Shades of Gray isn't heroine raped by someone else and not by the hero?


message 3: by Kris (new)

Kris JennyG wrote: "Are you sure about in Gold Ring of Betrayal by Michelle Reid? I don't remember either rape or forced seduction.

And also in Shades of Gray isn't heroine raped by someone else and not by the hero?"


yeah shades of gray shouldn't be there, someone else raped her.


message 4: by Mary (new)

Mary Morstan Kris wrote: "yeah shades of gray shouldn't be there, someone else raped her."

I didn't add that one to the list, so I am not sure how to remove it. (There are a couple of completely random books in the list that I'd like to remove as well, but...)


message 5: by Mary (new)

Mary Morstan JennyG wrote: "Are you sure about Gold Ring of Betrayal by Michelle Reid? I don't remember either rape or forced seduction.

It's a bit subtle but it's definitely there.


message 6: by Jen (new)

Jen Isn't it the hero who is the victim in "The Tied Man"? This site really should allow you to vote against books on a list.


message 7: by JennyG (new)

JennyG Mary wrote: "Kris wrote: "yeah shades of gray shouldn't be there, someone else raped her."

I didn't add that one to the list, so I am not sure how to remove it. (There are a couple of completely random books i..."




Mary, if you tell me which books you want removed I can remove them for you.

P.S. If you want to be able to remove books yourself then you should apply for a librarian status.

https://www.goodreads.com/help/show/1...


message 8: by Blue (last edited Apr 19, 2015 05:45PM) (new)

Blue Andrew wrote: "I seriously cannot imagine anyone who would rape or forcefully seduce someone else as being either romantic, or a hero. Really, this is so pathetic!"

Yeah How exactly are they heroes? They kidnapped and raped them! they're actually the leading villain.


message 9: by Angela (new)

Angela It's disgusting how such a list exists. Can't believe some people love heroes who rape and force the heroines..SMH.


message 10: by Angela (new)

Angela Jay wrote: "Andrew wrote: "I seriously cannot imagine anyone who would rape or forcefully seduce someone else as being either romantic, or a hero. Really, this is so pathetic!"

Yeah How exactly are they heroe..."


Exactly!!


V. PARENTAL GUIDANCE ALERT:  A Court of Wings and Ruin is NEW ADULT/EROTICA but Goodreads editors won't tell you Andrew wrote: "I seriously cannot imagine anyone who would rape or forcefully seduce someone else as being either romantic, or a hero. Really, this is so pathetic!"

I hate rape. I can't stand it, and even less when it's like game of thrones, like they get raped but then they move on like nothing. What I think this list means is that the boundaries are pushed and you get to think, this is scary and sexy and dangerous, and I hope it doesn't happen to me, but in the way it's in this book -since I'm in no danger, and I know I can put the book down if things get too uncomfortable - i want to know how far the characters would go.


If it's paranormal romance it's compelling because it's not close to reality. You think "well werevolves don't exist, so whatever" it's more difficult on a realistic setting.


message 12: by Jitha (new)

Jitha hello all

i remember a book(name i forgot)itz a harlequin . heroine is a model. hero is half japanese and due to some family issues hero wants revenge on heroines family and to help the aunt she loves she agree to marry the hero and they start life in japan. guys do u remember the name of the novel????
regards
jits


message 13: by TowerPrincess (new)

TowerPrincess Jitha wrote: "hello all

i remember a book(name i forgot)itz a harlequin . heroine is a model. hero is half japanese and due to some family issues hero wants revenge on heroines family and to help the aunt she l..."


Hi! That really sounds like Olivia Gates's novel Scandalously Expecting His Child (The Billionaire's of Blackcastle #2) by Olivia Gates

Let me know if this is the right one :)


message 14: by Oneandonlyqueen (new)

Oneandonlyqueen Angela wrote: "It's disgusting how such a list exists. Can't believe some people love heroes who rape and force the heroines..SMH."

Is called fiction, stop passing judgement on other people's taste.


message 15: by Kimberly (new)

Kimberly Lawson Oneandonlyqueen wrote: "Angela wrote: "It's disgusting how such a list exists. Can't believe some people love heroes who rape and force the heroines..SMH."

Is called fiction, stop passing judgement on other people's taste."



That part, thanks, Angela.


~☆~Autumn♥♥ Andrew wrote: "I seriously cannot imagine anyone who would rape or forcefully seduce someone else as being either romantic, or a hero. Really, this is so pathetic!"

I agree with you!


message 17: by JennyG (new)

JennyG ~☆~Autumn♥♥☽ wrote: "Andrew wrote: "I seriously cannot imagine anyone who would rape or forcefully seduce someone else as being either romantic, or a hero. Really, this is so pathetic!"

I agree with you!"



Then please use this list as a warning list for books to stay away from like some of us do without passing judgement on other readers.


message 18: by Kimberly (last edited Jul 09, 2017 03:01PM) (new)

Kimberly Lawson Kimberly wrote: "Oneandonlyqueen wrote: "Angela wrote: "It's disgusting how such a list exists. Can't believe some people love heroes who rape and force the heroines..SMH."

Is called fiction, stop passing judgemen..."


Why even click on this list if your just going to put it down. I don't enjoy cheating book nor M/M F/F. I don't find list to bash people who enjoy it. We all have different taste, some just darker than others. I hate when readers put other readers down for thier tastes. Don't like it, don't read. #bye


message 19: by Sar (new)

Sar I didn't realize there was a comment section on this sort of thing until I got to the bottom of this list.

AS USUAL there are a bunch of women on here shaming people that enjoy bodice romance novels. I find this a huge issue on the review sections of older Lindsey and Taylor novels. So many women coming in to shame one another. If you don't like it I understand. Stay off this list. We don't need to hear your comments about how "disgusting" and "pathetic" people are that choose to read this type of FICTION fantasy and like it! I think people that enjoy reading or watching torture books and movies like Saw or Hostel for enjoyment need therapy. M/M or F/F romance is an no for me. That's my personal opinion. I don't go onto threads that include those types of books and call the people that enjoy them disgusting and pathetic, because that would be a b****a** move.

Maybe you should get off the Internet if you don't like the idea that there are people that enjoy things that you don't like.


message 20: by Angela (new)

Angela Lmao bcz i find it fucked up especially from women in a world where so many women are abused, tortured and raped. Truly disgusting. Well i can also say same then. Get off internet if you cant handle my opinion. Deal with it✌dont like my opinion ignore it. I have the right to post my opinion on the list.


message 21: by Oneandonlyqueen (new)

Oneandonlyqueen I have heard romance authors describe romance books as feminism, and I agree with that, because it finally gives women permission to fantasize about their desires. It serves as a safe place, where it is OK to want what you want in a society where women's pleasures and desires are usually secondary.

So it is quite disheartening when other women invade this space passing moral judgement on what "fictional" stories other women like. Especially, when the same people passing judgement have read the same type of books or have it in their TBR list. What is the word am looking for again?...... Starts with an H, but I digress.

Again, as other people have mentioned, this not being forced on any one, it can easily be avoided.


Paganalexandria Angela wrote: "It's disgusting how such a list exists. Can't believe some people love heroes who rape and force the heroines..SMH."

You have dark erotica all up and through your shelves rated very high featuring this very element...I'm confused.


message 23: by Angela (last edited Feb 09, 2018 10:33PM) (new)

Angela Um i dont think i have rated any books high where the heroes rape the heroines. Not all dark erotica have rape scenes by the hero. Wtf r u talking about?Nice try though. Lol thanks for stalking me though


message 24: by Paganalexandria (last edited Feb 10, 2018 12:28AM) (new)

Paganalexandria Angela wrote: "Um i dont think i have rated any books high where the heroes rape the heroines. Not all dark erotica have rape scenes by the hero. Wtf r u talking about?Nice try though. Lol thanks for stalking me ..."


Nine Minutes (Nine Minutes, #1) by Beth Flynn

And I didn't have to stalk, just used the compare books feature.


message 25: by Angela (last edited Feb 10, 2018 01:06AM) (new)

Angela And if you would read my reviews for the following books of this series my dear you would know i despised grizz. I dnf the last book bcz they made grizz the hero and killed off grunt. I rated this one high bcz the whole feel of the book was epic and i shipped ginny and grunt. I continued the series only with hope they would end up together. Dont talk and judge when you dunno shit

My review of a gift of time:

https://www.goodreads.com/review/show...


message 26: by Paganalexandria (last edited Feb 10, 2018 07:50AM) (new)

Paganalexandria Angela wrote: "And if you would read my reviews for the following books of this series my dear you would know i despised grizz. I dnf the last book bcz they made grizz the hero and killed off grunt. I rated this ..."

Your offense was that someone created a list that dared to put all the books that this stuff happens in. You said anyone reading and enjoying books that this stuff happens in are "disgusting". You have no context of why this list was created. For all you know someone is doing a thesis on rape culture in media. If you yourself have read and enjoyed things that contain the content, then add yourself to the category. It doesn't matter your reasoning, since you assigned judgement to women without the same courtesy.

I have had conversations with abuse survivors that read books like this as therapy to examine their own experiences. Facing their fears in a controlled setting. But to you, that makes them horrible people.

This reminds me of when Jason Momoa made that bad joke about him enjoying playing Khal Drogo raping and pillaging. The same people paying premium cable prices, tuning in weekly watching, and shipping the relationship between the mother of Dragons that began obviously as rape got all outraged. But not enough not to enjoy the storyline in the first place. It's all a problem, not just being aware, and being baldly honest about what the thing actually is.

I mean even on this thread people saying "Oh Fifty Shades of Grey (Fifty Shades, #1) by E.L. James doesn't belong on this list!" When many people feel that scene when Christian shows up at her house after Anna tells him no, qualifies as forced seduction, and kinda belongs on this list. Turning your own body against itself to enjoy after the initial "no" is the exact definition of forced seduction. That happens in so many mainstream romance, and erotica. Why is putting them all on a central list a bad thing?

And I just compared your star ratings to my own, going into your reviews would have actually been way more stalk-y. lol


message 27: by Angela (new)

Angela If this list was made for a thesis then i will shut up and leave this thread. But was it? Lol. Doesnt seem so. Its just disrespectful and so insensitive to make that list if its just for people who romanticize or get off on rape! I cannot believe that i am being fought for this!! Oh well thats the fucked up world i guess.


Paganalexandria Angela wrote: "If this list was made for a thesis then i will shut up and leave this thread. But was it? Lol. Doesnt seem so. Its just disrespectful and so insensitive to make that list if its just for people who..."

It doesn't say what it is for. It's just a list. The creator just clarified not wanting older books. You don't know what it is for, neither do I.


message 29: by Angela (last edited Feb 10, 2018 08:16AM) (new)

Angela Hmm anyway as far as i know anyone is free to voice their opinion on this website. Just like for any book , there are good and bad reviews. Same for any list there can be positive and negative opinions. I dont need to sugarcoat my opinion to please others.


message 30: by Paganalexandria (last edited Feb 10, 2018 09:07AM) (new)

Paganalexandria Angela wrote: "Hmm anyway as far as i know anyone is free to voice their opinion on this website. Just like for any book , there are good and bad reviews. Same for any list there can be positive and negative opin..."

I like books featuring various criminals (mafia, bikers, mercenaries, assassins, villains etc) . A lot of that falls under dark romance/erotica, quite a few feature forms of forced seduction or rape. I expect bad guys to do bad guy things like killing, selling drugs, human trafficking, hostage taking, etc. Get a little irked when the worlds are too sugarcoated. To be honest I expected to not have any books in common with you, let alone some of the same ratings. I only looked because it was mentioned in someone else's comment.

You don't have to sugarcoat your opinion, but when you're insulting people for doing the same exact thing you are doing it warrants a side-eye. I have the same right to state that opinion too. If your original comments weren't personal attacks against readers who read "those type of books", versus a rant about rape in books, or rape culture wouldn't have said anything at all.


message 31: by Angela (last edited Feb 10, 2018 09:31AM) (new)

Angela Lol i am not doing same thing. Making a list specific on heroes raping heroines and reading a book in that list bcz of the storyline and it happens to have rape scenes i didnt even know of is not the same thing at all. And yeah feel free to look on my book shelves lmao


message 32: by Paganalexandria (last edited Feb 10, 2018 09:47AM) (new)

Paganalexandria Angela wrote: "Lol i am not doing same thing. Making a list specific on heroes raping heroines and reading a book in that list bcz of the storyline and it happens to have rape scenes i didnt even know of is not t..."

I have category shelves for the most random things I run across. When conversations in various groups start, it makes it so easy to remember specific book titles for examples. I also has a friend who constantly creates lists the same way I shelve. Maybe it makes it easier to not think to hard about lists I see here. I had no more of a reaction for this than I would for a "Romance Featuring Childhood Abuse" list. On the surface none of those things go together, but quite of few romance novels feature that theme. Just as triggering for other readers, and a good source to know what to read or avoid.


message 33: by Angela (new)

Angela Again making a category on your personal shelf while reading book by book and making this listopia thing asking for specific books where heroes rape heroines where people can comment is also not the same thing in my opinion. Thats what triggered me and i wasnt the only one .


message 34: by Paganalexandria (last edited Feb 10, 2018 10:15AM) (new)

Paganalexandria Angela wrote: "Again making a category on your personal shelf while reading book by book and making this listopia thing asking for specific books where heroes rape heroines where people can comment is also not th..."

That I will give you. I guess what triggered me was flashbacks of all the heat anyone who liked Fifty Shades, and book-a-likes being flogged up and down these Goodreads streets. It made me hyper sensitive to reader shaming.


message 35: by Angela (last edited Feb 10, 2018 11:02AM) (new)

Angela How can i despise a book and know that the heros are rapists before reading it? Huh. That does not make any sense lol. And i havent read any books in this listopia fyi.


message 36: by Booklovinglady (last edited Jul 03, 2018 02:11PM) (new)

Booklovinglady I've removed Fifty Shades of Grey, as it was consensual sex they were having.

I've also removed Shades of Gray (see earlier comments by the creator of this list).


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