The Darker Side
Stories from the darker side of desire.
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list created February 24th, 2012
by Diana • Book of Secrets.
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I think because of the other books within the series put JR Ward in this grouping.

For that matter, IMO, wrong to include the following:
"Lover Reborn" (as someone already noted)
"Under Mr. Nolan's Bed" by Selena Kitt (taboo, yes, but that's not a theme listed here)
"Comfort Object" by Annabel Joseph (BDSM, yes but NOT dark)
"Surrender" by Lora Leigh (you're kidding, right? it's tamer than "Comfort Object")
"A Good Student" by Elliot Mabeuse (BDSM, yes but NOT dark)
"Heidi and the Kaiser" by Selena Kitt (hell, this is BDSM-lite, especially for SK)
"Sinful" by Charlotte Featherstone (oh c'mon! it's HQN Spice)
"Wicked Burn" by Beth Kery (sex was hot but relationship didn't involve BDSM)
+ 2 Gena Showalter books
I hope someone can clean up the list. Great to have handy and updated as new books come out.

I think the creator of this list has the ability to clean it up. I often refer to these lists when looking to read a book in that particular category. It really sucks when people can't follow simple directions and completely screw up the list. Other books that shouldn't be here include.
"Fifty Shades" Nothing dark or dubious, just a control freak
"The Darkest Seduction" that's just a joke
"Exit to Eden" No where near dark, It was all consensual
"Nobody's Hero" BDSM in the confines of a club, totally safe

"Club Shadowlands" completely consensual inside the club
"Mercy" completely consensual - although there is a disturbing scene that damages their relationship for quite a while
"Dark Citadel" pretty much completely consensual club environment
"Comfort Object" there is some coercion to get her to take the job but she could have refused
"Safeword Matte" like all of Candace Blevins's books the level of BDSM can make some uncomfortable but everything is utterly consensual (in this book for instance, she wants to play without a safeword and he refuses)
I am never sure whether to laugh or cry at this particular list.

Yeah, I figured but I only read the first 2 in MOS series so didn't want to assume mind of whoever posted it.
Michael wrote: "..."Mercy" completely consensual - although there is a disturbing scene that damages their relationship for quite a while..."
Yep, exactly why I left it alone. That one part was controversial but I thought things iffy for a stretch of their relationship.
Michael wrote: "..."Comfort Object" there is some coercion to get her to take the job but she could have refused
Ha! I thought exact thing! But then I considered it was outside the realm of sex.
As for crying or laughing, I'd say both. Definitely not scientific but a tiny clue into the how and why of the Fifty Shades of Fiasco.
Huh, re-reading my original post, I can tell I pooped out at the end after typing all those quotes and parentheses. Need more coffee...

3 of the Shadowlands books could qualify as Dark Erotica
- the third, because of her past relationship
- the fifth, the actions of the slavery ring
- the sixth, because of her attempt to recovery from the slavery
Of course, both "To Command and Collar" and "Slave" are actually consensual relationships for most of the books - although a big part of both stories is her coming to terms with that fact.

I thought the first 2 were the least interesting. The next 2 were much improved and the last 2 even better - the 6th book is on my favorites list.

Hi, Samantha! Good to know. Figured there had to be some way for whoever created this to monitor activity. As for FSOG, I didn't even want to bother with it ;-)
OMG, I just realised that there's a second page...OK, coffee re-fill.
ADDED: I can't take it... Kate Douglas's Wolf Tales, along with a Laurann Dohner and Sunny book...seriously??? And none of Annabel Joseph's books fit here. *sign* Someone else can pick up the reigns.
ALSO, just because I laughed at the title, never read it but not so sure about "Caught In A Werewolf Gangbang" *lol*

Ah...probably why I stopped :) I know I got 2 or 3 more so maybe I'll take another shot at it. Thanks!
And thanks to you too, Diane. Hat tip for this list!

Diana,
Thank you for all your efforts. We really appreciate all your time and effort. And if I see that pesky Ana Steele and her friend make an appearance again, I will be sure and let her know.

The Megan Hart books for instance, those are not BDSM - nor do they contain any of the elements listed, but they are dark reads.

Dirty is on here because it deals with incestuous rape that took course over a few years. I voted for it too, should I remove the vote? Here I am complaining about this list and I may be causing some of the problems. LoL..I voted for a Laurann Dohner book too. Yikes ;o)


Dirty is on here because it deals with incestuous..."
Samantha,I would say that Dirty should not be on here b/c it's not BDSM and noncon. That's just my opinion.
I do agree that it is a dark read, just not a dark BDSM read.

It gets tricky even if you do read a lot. Personally, I would never ever vote for Comfort Food based on the criteria and yet it ranks 3rd on the list.
Some books are easy to remove. Others are more open to interpretation.

Quoting from above, "I do agree that it is a dark read, just not a dark BDSM read." I think it is a great example of Stockholm Syndrome, but I don't think that makes it BDSM or even Dark BDSM. But again, I realize I hold the minority opinion on that.

But I will revise try and loosen my definition a bit and vote for Consequences. :)

Michael wrote: "but I don't think that makes it BDSM or even Dark BDSM. But again, I realize I hold the minority opinion on that. "
These is not a dark BDSM only list. Forced consent, and dubious consent are also qualifiers so that opens up a lot more books to the list that have no BDSM in them.

I think I am going to have to dip out on this list b/c it is getting a little too muddled with books that don't really belong. :-)


You're right, It's a memory but she tells the story in detail to Dan so I felt like I experienced it with her.
Start a new List Bookie Nookie and help us out, cause I like dark erotica and would hate to read something from this list and find I was mislead. I haven't read enough dark erotica to create a list.


So you are looking for a non-BDSM Dark Erotica list? I will have to think about what I would add to that.

OMG!!! DO NOT get me started on that!
I have a Fem-Dom list and It drives me nuts when all those Cherise Sinclair books show up! Ok, just b/c there is BDSM does not mean it belongs on the list!
http://www.goodreads.com/list/show/87...

Any book containing abduction, rape, dubious consent, forced seduction would qualify. There are plenty Dark erotica books that are not based on the BDSM lifestyle. That's what I was hoping to find with this list but as you can see...
I ♥ Bookie Nookie wrote: "I have a Fem-Dom list and It drives me nuts when all those Cherise Sinclair books show up."
I haven't read any of her books. I take it they all male dominant ;o)

LOL.. yes :-) They are also sugar kink/glitter kink. I like them, but they are not dark - especially the ones early on in the series. They have gotten progressively darker though.


I am partial to all of the above!

LMAO! So true :-)
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This is taboo, but not dark:

This is not dark:


Okay, thanks! Those have been removed. I'm still not sure about the Joey Hill books, because I haven't read them either. May..."
Sure! It is frustrating when the wrong books get added to the list, but this is definitely not the only one affected by this, I see it all the time!

I've only read the 4th one and that one can definitely stay on.

I made a list for
"Best Fantasy, Steampunk & Science Fiction BDSM
Sexually explicit fiction with kinks & fetishes that ventures into created worlds. (Not PNR - see Paranormal BDSM list)"
and yet someone kept adding a book called Bloodlust with a vampire on the front!
Amazing how people don't read the list description.

HAHAHAHAHA! Oh! I just LOVE it when a great list gets watered down with the WRONG BOOKS! NOT!
I would definitely agree - not Dark Erotica

WTF? Who is adding all these books?
There are a bunch of books on there that I am not sure about, so if you notice any more let me know and I will delete them.


I would have thought all the Club Mephisto books were simply hard core BDSM TPE relationships too but Joellen tagged them dub con so I'm not sure now.
All Candace Blevins are consensual BDSM. I think she'd be horrified to be classed in dark erotica where consent is really iffy if not downright gone.
But ...I just reread the requirement of the list and 'heavy' S/m is allowed so that leaves the gate wide open for adding many BDSM books. It would've made more sense to not have those included, I think. According to this definition, I have friends who engage in darkly erotic acts and that's plain odd, and incorrect.
Maybe dark erotica isn't clearly defined as yet?

If you look in the back of one of Annabel's book, she classifies her books as "Erotic Romance" with the exception of the first two CM novels - they get classified as "Erotica." Personally, I think where they lie on the Con/Dub Con line is part of what the reader has to decide. Burn For You - definitely a Romance.
Cari wrote: "All Candace Blevins are consensual BDSM. I think she'd be horrified to be classed in dark erotica where consent is really iffy if not downright gone."
I am not sure what actually horrifies Candace and I am not sure that I want to find out. Because her novels tend to test my limits as a reader.

If you look in the back of one..."
LOL I know what you mean. I beta read Safeword Quinacridone. It was terribly kinky but, to me, if it's consensual it isn't 'dark erotica'.
This is wikimedia's definition:
Erotic horror, alternately noted as Dark Erotica, is a term applied to works of horror fiction in which sensual or sexual imagery (or even descriptions of the physical act of sexual intercourse) are blended with horrific overtones or story elements.
I don't think I quite agree with that definition.
But I do agree that the Con/Dub Con line is sometimes best decided by readers.

I know my idea of "dark" has changed significantly over the years :-)
That's the trouble with these lists...

And so a book about a loving sadist who listens to safe words may be dark to one reader while to another dark is a book about a man dragging away someone and doing unspeakable things to their body even though they are screaming no.
I also saw that consent isn't always the issue. A story where a woman allows a vampire to drain her of her blood and slowly kill her while she experiences extreme ecstasy is both consensual and horror and dark erotica because the reader can see she is dying.
That fascinates me. Depending on whose eyes we see through - the woman, vampire, or if we just be aware of ourselves as the reader watching a woman die, the story changes. Dark erotica has so much more potential than pure romance.
Anyway, back to the list, I guess most of the books on here might be dark to someone.