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289 boof and laura, i love trollope and have to warn you that I found The Warden to be one of the less appealing and least typical of his novels! At least it's short. But I hope you'll try another of his juicier more fun novels next. The first I ever read, and the one that made me love Trollope, is Orley Farm. I also love Dr Thorne. I recently interviewed the head of the American Trollope Society (, go to page 4), and he recommends Phineas Finn first. Also, we have a Trollope group here at goodreads. At any rate, good luck with The Warden, I hope you enjoy it, my husband liked it!
Apr 29, 2009 12:32PM

289 OK folks, anyone who is having trouble finding even obscure trollopes (the novels) is invited to email randy williams, president of the American Trollope Society, his email is
Apr 29, 2009 06:43AM

289 also, anyone looking for rare and odd trollopes, i have a friend who is president of the Trollope Society of American and I can ask him. I know they did a printing of 48 Trollope titles, not sure if they included any of the travel books. Also, often has downloadable versions of the books (expensive, but if you can't find a copy any other way...) And of course Abebooks online or Powells in Oregon are always good sources. good luck!
289 Gabriele wrote: "Boof wrote: "Does anyone have any recommendations for a romance? I really fancy reading something Jane Eyrish. I was never big on romances before I read this and Jane and Mr Rochester completely wo..."

I agree with Gabriele! If you like Jane, you'll probably like Rebecca, which is a WONDERFUL novel.
289 Wanda wrote: "Has anyone read The Law and the Lady by Wilkie Collins? How was it? Do you recommend it? Thanks so much in advance. "

I read it, after I finished the Moonstone and Lady in White. Those two novels are SO good that everything else by Collins is kind of a letdown. : ( But of his "minor" books, Law and the Lady is the one I enjoyed most. It's short, anyway, so it's worth reading.

289 Hmm, that was such an interesting comment, why is it from a "deleted member"??? Victorian book police didn't like what was being said?
Oct 16, 2008 07:18AM

289 you know, i've never seen a mod lib hardcover! tells you something about my income bracket... : )
Oct 12, 2008 08:11AM

289 My husband and I both like oxford world's classics the most, they're easy to read, a good size, large-enough type and they have the most authors and titles.
289 This isn't a novel but I'd like to recommend, to anyone who hasn't read it yet, Daniel Pool's WONDERFUl guide to Victorian literature: "What Jane Austen Ate and Charles Dickens Knew: From Fox Hunting to Whist—The Facts of Daily Life in Nineteenth-Century England." It's easy to use and he thoroughly and entertainingly explains subtle stuff like who goes in first to dinner, and why the oldest sister is Miss Bennet and the second oldest is Miss Elizabeth. And it's broken up by topic so you don't have to read the whole thing (although you can), you can just look stuff up as you need it.
289 To get back to the original question, I think one common characteristic of Victorian novels is they're all ultimately about rules and structure. Even if someone is really naughty or evil, they KNOW they're being naughty and evil and will be Damned in some way or other. I guess that's what I like about, especially, Austen and Trollope: people who follow the rules generally come out okay in the end, and evil people are usually punished. It's like reading Agatha Christie, where the bad guys are always caught and punished, even if they're very clever.
Sep 01, 2008 11:30AM

289 All the jane austen movies are so wonderful.
For Trollope fans, I was glad to see Sarah included The Way We Live Now on her list, it's especially good, with the wonderful Cilliam Murphy and the astounding David Suchet.
Have any of you seen the old black and white pride and prejudice with Green Garson and Laurence Olivier? It's not completely true to the plot of the novel but it's wonderful; I alternate between obsessively watching this version and the Colin Firth version.
289 Sorry, I popped that comment in without reading all the posts! Haven't quite got the hang of "groups" yet. : )
People do say Wilkie Collins wrote the first English detective novel, with the moonstone (I think Poe's Rue Morgue was the first European detective novel). I don't remember Eustace Diamond being a detective novel so much it's more like reading Vanity Fair, about a scheming social climber. The diamonds aren't really LOST or stolen, it's more a question really of how to rip them out of her hot little hands.
I always worry when people start with The Warden, just because it's the first in the series; if I'd started with the Warden, I don't think I would have read any other Trollope's.
Can you forgive her (and forgive me for commenting on old posts!) had nice characters and all but I did find her a little annoying; she was a bit TOO much of a repressed honor-bound Victorian.
289 If you haven't read a lot of Trollope, you might want to start with something other than Eustace Diamonds. It seems like it's going to be a fun book, but it seems to turn off from Trollope everyone I know who's read it as their first novel by him. My first Trollope was Orley Farm, which I loved.

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