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HI Lara. o.
Please tell me what exactly warrants respect in the comment I was responding to? Did you read it? It's completely bizarre.
And would you also think a belief that 'pixies on flying pigs flew over a loch and created a monster', also warrants respect?
It's less unhinged than the comment I was referring to.
I can tell you that 'belief' in itself does not warrant respect. Any fool can have beliefs, obviously.
But facts do and there were no facts in the comment I replied to. Just bizarre assertions.
I can in fact state will full confidence "Christian fantasy" as that is exactly what it is. A ridiculous fantasy devoid of facts. It is not my "opinion".
"Christians are ridiculed because..." they believe in the ridiculous. There is a duty and a simple solution :)
Let me do a quick summary of Christianity. Of course I can make it as detailed as you like but for now...
Christians believe that an always existed all knowing all powerful being that created reality and everything in it once upon a time had to send itself as a sacrifice to itself so it could allow itself to 'forgive' humanity for how it made it in the first place.
So you reckon that warrants respect?
You appear to give away your respect too easily.
Hey Michael,
The comment itself, I found disrespecting the Chrsitian belief systems as you state with full confidence that it's just a fantasy. I don’t mean to call you disrespectful, no not at all. This is what you believe. But the comment you made declaring that all it is is a myth, I find it not a fact but a mere opinion-I do not tend to be rude when I state this.
Respect is one of the core moral values. The comment does not guarantee full justification of respect and I am not saying this because of what you believe, simply because you have claimed that the Christian belief is nothing but a mere fantasy.
It is not your ‘reality’ (the christian belief) but to others, it is. If they heard that what they believed in was ridiculous they would find it disrespectful and most probably be offended.
I can tell you that 'belief' in itself does not warrant respect- I do agree with this. Some beliefs have different morals and value and others may find it utterly idiotic and would not agree with it. But does that give us the right to ridicule it? Not at all!
And would you also think a belief that 'pixies on flying pigs flew over a loch and created a monster', also warrants respect?- No I would not. But as crazy as it sounds to some others, we still should show some respect. We don't have to agree with it but if a person believes in something such as this, are we to mock what they believe simply because we don't agree with it?
"Christians are ridiculed because..." they believe in the ridiculous. - Christains are ridiculed because they believe in the impossible, in miracles and that all comes from faith. Faith that some don’t have, sometimes I too struggle with it.
‘He had to send itself as a sacrifice to itself so it could allow itself to 'forgive' humanity for how it made it in the first place.’
-You are somewhat accurate.
God has given us a free will, he gave us freedom to do what we want. He did not create people to be sinners, we chose that. How? He gave us a choice to accept or reject Him, in full knowledge that some would reject, out of an abundance of love; choosing Him would be meaningless without that choice.
If there is a salty, then there is a sweet
If there's an up, then theres a down
If there's a right, then there's a wrong
So if God created goodness, how can there be good without evil?
Us as humans, we are not perfect. For every wrong act, there is judgement upon that and the judge would claim them to be guilty. So Christians believe that God sent his son, so we didn't have to pay for our sins(hell).
Some people disagree, some are skeptical however, many believe. People may not find it respectful, but it is a matter of belief. The bible says that people should show respect and show mercy to every human being in this world, which includes members of all religions. Some may not find Christianity respectful, but people believe that this is the truth. We cannot show disrespect because we simply disagree with it. We all have freedom of speech, but we must show respect to one another.
Once again, I do not think you are disrespectful but your comment may offend others as you state this as if it is a fact-not everyone agrees.
Fact is the 'Christian belief system' like many other belief systems, doesn't warrant respect.
I thought I made that pretty clear to you but you still seen confused. Maybe you need to go back and read what I wrote again.
Please let me clarify a few other things for you.
Faith is not a virtue so please don't start pretending it is and nonsense like 'miracles' happen.
And before you go claiming a god says of does anything you need to...
1. Prove a god exists, and then...
2. Prove it happens to be the particular god you imagine exists.
Good news is that you'll never have to worry about the second one.
And yes the whole concept of Christianity is nonsensical and is complete toxic BS that plays off peoples fear of mortal reality.
I can also tell you that bible god is the worst character in the history of fiction or fact, if it existed and Christianity is by far the worst thing to happen to humanity.
Should you need clarification on these issues also I'm happy to provide some book references to enable your education. Thanks
Putting yourself in the place of someone else is one way to develop respect for other religions. Consider how it would feel to have your religion spoken of in a negative way to understand the importance of respecting the beliefs of others the same way you want your beliefs to be respected. Just to be sure, are you saying that ‘belief systems’ don’t warrant respect because people don’t agree with the teaching?
Christians believe that an always existed all knowing all powerful being that created reality and everything in it once upon a time had to send itself as a sacrifice to itself so it could allow itself to 'forgive' humanity for how it made it in the first place
- And once again, do you not believe that the Christian belief doesn’t warrant respect because you believe it is something so ridiculous or is it some other reason?
Faith is not a virtue so please don't start pretending it is - No I did not intend to claim it was. Faith itself is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things. Others however find the faith to be of moral goodness. We use faith in our everyday lives, when you sit on a chair, you have faith/confidence it will carry your weight.
And before you go claiming a god says or does anything you need to...
1. Prove a god exists, and then...
2. Prove it happens to be the particular god you imagine exists.
Good news is that you'll never have to worry about the second one
You seem so confident that God or a God does not exist, however, have you yourself proved that the existence of God is fake? There is proof of God believing it or not, but do you choose to believe that? One cannot deny proof or evidence so if a God exists some people may just lack faith to even believe in such whilst others may rely on science.
I can also tell you that the bible god is the worst character in the history of fiction or fact if it existed and Christianity is by far the worst thing to happen to humanity.
-You state that if God existed, then Christianity would be the worst thing to happen to humanity. Then why are people so happy as Christians? Why are they so willing to die for Christ? ( I refer to Christians who are killed for believing in God ) Surely you can answer that for me. They must be brainwashed right? I have seen so many Christians who love the bible God no matter the hardships they face throughout life.
Should you need clarification on these issues also I'm happy to provide some book references to enable your education. Thanks
-I am interested, yes. But I would also like to see from your perspective why you believe there is no God, however, I am quite an obstinate person- I have seen proof of God-evidence as I would like to call it, so I wonder what book references can build my education to prove that there is no God...
Thanks
Yes, I agree than empathy is important but so is not giving away unwarranted respect as you appear to do. The reason you imagine the initial comment warrants respect is not based on facts of its nonsensical nature, but it is because you have affinity with those beliefs. Please try and comprehend that nonsense doesn’t warrant respect, even if you imagine it does.
My first comment was based on the initial comment and its nonsensical nature. Yes, I understand Christianity very well, even if you don’t. And my comment was not so much based on my understanding of Christianity in general but directly addressing the ridiculous claims of the first poster. Maybe you should go back and re read them for understanding of my approach. Read the first poster in the light of reality. Does what they say, warrant respect? Of course not, it warrants, in fact demands ridicule. Does it warrant sympathy? Not so much as the person as made a decision to believe these things so they need to take responsibility for them. We are not talking about race or gender here, even though the religious like to pretend they are in the same boat.
“Faith itself is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things.” No it isn’t. If one had fact it would be called fact, not faith. Faith is pretending to know things one doesn’t know and believing in things without evidence.
“We use faith in our everyday lives, when you sit on a chair, you have faith/confidence it will carry your weight” Nonsense. Faith and confidence are not the same thing. Please note the previous definition of faith.
You seem so confident that God or a God does not exist, however, have you yourself proved that the existence of God is fake?” Like many god imaginers, not surprisingly, you don’t seem to understand that the burden of proof is with the one making the claim that something exists or is true. Mine is not a ‘belief’ that gods are imaginary, but based on the fact that like ‘pixies on flying pigs’ ,the claim is bizarre and without evidence.
“-You state that if God existed, then Christianity would be the worst thing to happen to humanity” No I never said that. I said that bible god is the worst character in the history of fact or fiction and Christianity is the worst thing to happen to humanity, by quite some way.
“Then why are people so happy as Christians?” Broad claim. You know there are also happy people in mental hospitals, blowing themselves up, shooting people etc? I was referring to Christianity’s history and what it’s all about 😊.
“Why are they so willing to die for Christ? … They must be brainwashed right?” Correct. People willing to die for a cause is no pointer to that cause being true or good for that person. Look around!
“I have seen so many Christians who love the bible God no matter the hardships they face throughout life.” Look there is no doubt that believing in a fantasy afterlife eases peoples fear of mortality, and that fear is what Christianity has lived off since its invention. Of course, there is also the attraction of the lazy minded feeling special without having to actually do anything.
Again, mine isn’t a ‘belief’ that there is no god, but a fact based on the complete lack of evidence for one. Yes, I can recommend a hundred books. Do you want to start with ‘god’ belief or Christianitys history or bible mythology? What books on religion have you already read? Thanks
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HI Lara. o.Please tell me what exactly warrants respect in the comment I was responding to? Did you read it? It's completely bizarre.
And would you also think a belief that 'pixies on flying pigs flew over a loch and created a monster', also warrants respect?
It's less unhinged than the comment I was referring to.
I can tell you that 'belief' in itself does not warrant respect. Any fool can have beliefs, obviously.
But facts do and there were no facts in the comment I replied to. Just bizarre assertions.
I can in fact state will full confidence "Christian fantasy" as that is exactly what it is. A ridiculous fantasy devoid of facts. It is not my "opinion".
"Christians are ridiculed because..." they believe in the ridiculous. There is a duty and a simple solution :)
Let me do a quick summary of Christianity. Of course I can make it as detailed as you like but for now...
Christians believe that an always existed all knowing all powerful being that created reality and everything in it once upon a time had to send itself as a sacrifice to itself so it could allow itself to 'forgive' humanity for how it made it in the first place.
So you reckon that warrants respect?
You appear to give away your respect too easily.
Hey Michael, The comment itself, I found disrespecting the Chrsitian belief systems as you state with full confidence that it's just a fantasy. I don’t mean to call you disrespectful, no not at all. This is what you believe. But the comment you made declaring that all it is is a myth, I find it not a fact but a mere opinion-I do not tend to be rude when I state this.
Respect is one of the core moral values. The comment does not guarantee full justification of respect and I am not saying this because of what you believe, simply because you have claimed that the Christian belief is nothing but a mere fantasy.
It is not your ‘reality’ (the christian belief) but to others, it is. If they heard that what they believed in was ridiculous they would find it disrespectful and most probably be offended.
I can tell you that 'belief' in itself does not warrant respect- I do agree with this. Some beliefs have different morals and value and others may find it utterly idiotic and would not agree with it. But does that give us the right to ridicule it? Not at all!
And would you also think a belief that 'pixies on flying pigs flew over a loch and created a monster', also warrants respect?- No I would not. But as crazy as it sounds to some others, we still should show some respect. We don't have to agree with it but if a person believes in something such as this, are we to mock what they believe simply because we don't agree with it?
"Christians are ridiculed because..." they believe in the ridiculous. - Christains are ridiculed because they believe in the impossible, in miracles and that all comes from faith. Faith that some don’t have, sometimes I too struggle with it.
‘He had to send itself as a sacrifice to itself so it could allow itself to 'forgive' humanity for how it made it in the first place.’
-You are somewhat accurate.
God has given us a free will, he gave us freedom to do what we want. He did not create people to be sinners, we chose that. How? He gave us a choice to accept or reject Him, in full knowledge that some would reject, out of an abundance of love; choosing Him would be meaningless without that choice.
If there is a salty, then there is a sweet
If there's an up, then theres a down
If there's a right, then there's a wrong
So if God created goodness, how can there be good without evil?
Us as humans, we are not perfect. For every wrong act, there is judgement upon that and the judge would claim them to be guilty. So Christians believe that God sent his son, so we didn't have to pay for our sins(hell).
Some people disagree, some are skeptical however, many believe. People may not find it respectful, but it is a matter of belief. The bible says that people should show respect and show mercy to every human being in this world, which includes members of all religions. Some may not find Christianity respectful, but people believe that this is the truth. We cannot show disrespect because we simply disagree with it. We all have freedom of speech, but we must show respect to one another.
Once again, I do not think you are disrespectful but your comment may offend others as you state this as if it is a fact-not everyone agrees.
Fact is the 'Christian belief system' like many other belief systems, doesn't warrant respect.I thought I made that pretty clear to you but you still seen confused. Maybe you need to go back and read what I wrote again.
Please let me clarify a few other things for you.
Faith is not a virtue so please don't start pretending it is and nonsense like 'miracles' happen.
And before you go claiming a god says of does anything you need to...
1. Prove a god exists, and then...
2. Prove it happens to be the particular god you imagine exists.
Good news is that you'll never have to worry about the second one.
And yes the whole concept of Christianity is nonsensical and is complete toxic BS that plays off peoples fear of mortal reality.
I can also tell you that bible god is the worst character in the history of fiction or fact, if it existed and Christianity is by far the worst thing to happen to humanity.
Should you need clarification on these issues also I'm happy to provide some book references to enable your education. Thanks
Putting yourself in the place of someone else is one way to develop respect for other religions. Consider how it would feel to have your religion spoken of in a negative way to understand the importance of respecting the beliefs of others the same way you want your beliefs to be respected. Just to be sure, are you saying that ‘belief systems’ don’t warrant respect because people don’t agree with the teaching?Christians believe that an always existed all knowing all powerful being that created reality and everything in it once upon a time had to send itself as a sacrifice to itself so it could allow itself to 'forgive' humanity for how it made it in the first place
- And once again, do you not believe that the Christian belief doesn’t warrant respect because you believe it is something so ridiculous or is it some other reason?
Faith is not a virtue so please don't start pretending it is - No I did not intend to claim it was. Faith itself is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things. Others however find the faith to be of moral goodness. We use faith in our everyday lives, when you sit on a chair, you have faith/confidence it will carry your weight.
And before you go claiming a god says or does anything you need to...
1. Prove a god exists, and then...
2. Prove it happens to be the particular god you imagine exists.
Good news is that you'll never have to worry about the second one
You seem so confident that God or a God does not exist, however, have you yourself proved that the existence of God is fake? There is proof of God believing it or not, but do you choose to believe that? One cannot deny proof or evidence so if a God exists some people may just lack faith to even believe in such whilst others may rely on science.
I can also tell you that the bible god is the worst character in the history of fiction or fact if it existed and Christianity is by far the worst thing to happen to humanity.
-You state that if God existed, then Christianity would be the worst thing to happen to humanity. Then why are people so happy as Christians? Why are they so willing to die for Christ? ( I refer to Christians who are killed for believing in God ) Surely you can answer that for me. They must be brainwashed right? I have seen so many Christians who love the bible God no matter the hardships they face throughout life.
Should you need clarification on these issues also I'm happy to provide some book references to enable your education. Thanks
-I am interested, yes. But I would also like to see from your perspective why you believe there is no God, however, I am quite an obstinate person- I have seen proof of God-evidence as I would like to call it, so I wonder what book references can build my education to prove that there is no God...
Thanks
Yes, I agree than empathy is important but so is not giving away unwarranted respect as you appear to do. The reason you imagine the initial comment warrants respect is not based on facts of its nonsensical nature, but it is because you have affinity with those beliefs. Please try and comprehend that nonsense doesn’t warrant respect, even if you imagine it does.My first comment was based on the initial comment and its nonsensical nature. Yes, I understand Christianity very well, even if you don’t. And my comment was not so much based on my understanding of Christianity in general but directly addressing the ridiculous claims of the first poster. Maybe you should go back and re read them for understanding of my approach. Read the first poster in the light of reality. Does what they say, warrant respect? Of course not, it warrants, in fact demands ridicule. Does it warrant sympathy? Not so much as the person as made a decision to believe these things so they need to take responsibility for them. We are not talking about race or gender here, even though the religious like to pretend they are in the same boat.
“Faith itself is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things.” No it isn’t. If one had fact it would be called fact, not faith. Faith is pretending to know things one doesn’t know and believing in things without evidence.
“We use faith in our everyday lives, when you sit on a chair, you have faith/confidence it will carry your weight” Nonsense. Faith and confidence are not the same thing. Please note the previous definition of faith.
You seem so confident that God or a God does not exist, however, have you yourself proved that the existence of God is fake?” Like many god imaginers, not surprisingly, you don’t seem to understand that the burden of proof is with the one making the claim that something exists or is true. Mine is not a ‘belief’ that gods are imaginary, but based on the fact that like ‘pixies on flying pigs’ ,the claim is bizarre and without evidence.
“-You state that if God existed, then Christianity would be the worst thing to happen to humanity” No I never said that. I said that bible god is the worst character in the history of fact or fiction and Christianity is the worst thing to happen to humanity, by quite some way.
“Then why are people so happy as Christians?” Broad claim. You know there are also happy people in mental hospitals, blowing themselves up, shooting people etc? I was referring to Christianity’s history and what it’s all about 😊.
“Why are they so willing to die for Christ? … They must be brainwashed right?” Correct. People willing to die for a cause is no pointer to that cause being true or good for that person. Look around!
“I have seen so many Christians who love the bible God no matter the hardships they face throughout life.” Look there is no doubt that believing in a fantasy afterlife eases peoples fear of mortality, and that fear is what Christianity has lived off since its invention. Of course, there is also the attraction of the lazy minded feeling special without having to actually do anything.
Again, mine isn’t a ‘belief’ that there is no god, but a fact based on the complete lack of evidence for one. Yes, I can recommend a hundred books. Do you want to start with ‘god’ belief or Christianitys history or bible mythology? What books on religion have you already read? Thanks
Christians are ridiculed because of people like you claiming that what they believe in is ridiculous and it's shameful. Who are you or are they to say that? Yes, you have the right to speak your mind but with respect and do not act as if you KNOW that in reality there is no God. You may believe that there's no God or believe in something else, that's your own belief/opinion. Why must others be ridiculed for believing something other than you, is it hard to respect others for their beliefs?
That's not simple?