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message 1: by Whitaker (new)

Whitaker Good review. A number of reviews I've read have focussed on the negatives (they also picked out the themes you mention) so it's especially nice to read yours which also picks up on the positives. I'd like to see more stuff from him (or anyone else for that matter) on childcare in tribal societies (the recent grandmother hypothesis is very interesting for example) and on the role of custom and ritual in enforcing conformity in small tribal communities. On the former, Daniel Everett has some interesting observations on childcare among the Pirahã in his book, Don't Sleep, There Are Snakes.

message 2: by Traveller (new)

Traveller I find Diamond himself a bit WEIRD, heh heh.

message 3: by Jeffrey (new)

Jeffrey Keeten Excellent, balanced review Hadrian.

message 4: by Traveller (last edited Jan 03, 2013 08:10AM) (new)

Traveller Nice review, sorry that i omitted to say that--so many of my friends consistently write good reviews, that i eventually run out of adjectives, and start fearing that my response might sound.... insincere?

Anyway, Hadrian is one of my faves, i'm glad i found him!

message 5: by Hadrian (new)

Hadrian Dohohohoho. Thanks.

message 6: by Cass (new)

Cass Great review, you picked up on many of the issues that I had with the book.

message 7: by Riku (new)

Riku Sayuj Have you read Collapse as well, Hadrian? How much new material is really there this time around (except for the thesis change)? Have been postponing this one for a while now.

message 8: by Rand (new)

Rand nice review, Hadrian. for everyone else: there is currently a giveaway for this title.

message 9: by Hadrian (new)

Hadrian Riku - Yes, a while ago. There was a more substantive change in areas covered, but Diamond sticks very closely to the idea of environmental collapse instead of tribalism there.

Rand, Cass: Thanks!

message 10: by Jane (new)

Jane I've read a few chapters out of this book so far and was curious about the discussions the book would generate, so found your review really interesting.

Willingly confining yourself to one language was common when I was growing up. Many of my schoolfriends were ashamed to speak a language other than English.

There are matrilineal societies; Minangkabau in Indonesia are one.

message 11: by Laura (new)

Laura Willingly confining yourself to one language is anything but dead in the good ol' US of A. Perhaps Hadrian lives in an educated enclave. I also beg to differ with the idea of the Social Contract being a viable substitute for a reparations process in which feelings and needs are addressed. It's not...it just isn't.

message 12: by Dasha (new)

Dasha Nice review, Hadrian. Since you didn't see much in the book on matriarchal and matrilineal societies, here are some recommendations: http://www.mapsofworld.com/around-the...
You can find more on the wikipedia page on that matter and some books here on goodreads, like https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...

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