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message 1: by Janice (new)

Janice are you trying to be discovered?

message 2: by Jason (new)

Jason I was bored. :)

message 3: by Sue (new)

Sue Wow! Are you in a book club?

message 4: by Janice (new)

Janice :)

message 5: by Jason (new)

Jason Both of you be quiet. I am a nerd having some fun. :D
Sue, at least you can see there is plenty to talk about!
My book club is still reading Let the Right One In... sooo s-l-o-w...

message 6: by Sue (new)

Sue Funny. I think you should join a few different book clubs to keep yourself busy!!!

message 7: by Sandy (new)

Sandy Hi all, not sure if I will be too late for anyone to read this. Jason, I liked your comments. I had some thoughts about some of these.
A. I wondered if the Mr. Black who lived upstairs, could have been the father of the man who sold Oskar's dad the vase? I dont have the timing straight in my head, but the vase was sold as part of an estate sale. It would be convoluted if that is the case, but would make a good story, IMO. Maybe he was a ghost? Oskar and the Mr. Black in 6A did refer to ghost in their discussions. The man who sold the vase said his Dad's name was Edmond Black, and Oskar was close to the E's in the alphabet when he went up to 6A. It really bugged me, too, that I didnt learn anymore about that connection. Maybe I just made it all up to satisfy myself?
B. I am not so sure that Thomas Schell Sr. ever actually left that apartment. The thought occurred to me that he could have been there hiding out for 40 years. I kinda got the idea his emotional dissolution was more severe than just his attachment to Anna, and hinged on his experience of the carnage during the Dresden bombings. Didnt it say every square inch of his room was covered in writing? So, I guess I thought is was possible he just "emotionally" left his family. Maybe I made all that up for myself too!
Anyway..... I enjoyed your post.

message 8: by s.penkevich (new)

s.penkevich ah yes, I do remember reading this review now. The typographical gimmicks did seem unnessesary, and seem to be becoming overused in modern books. 3 stars still, not bad. His earlier book Tree of Codes seems super gimmicky as well, but at least it is re-using Streets of Crocodiles, which I loved.

message 9: by Jason (new)

Jason Yeah, this book isn't bad, it's just that it has a lot of eye roller moments for me, mostly do to the gimmickry, which loses it a few stars in my opinion. For example, in one case, to reflect the fact that the protagonist is writing a letter in which he tries to squeeze his last thought onto a page, the actual writing in the book gets squeezed together until one line merges into the next. Stuff like that.

MJ loves it, though, so I think you should make up your own mind.

message 10: by Jason (new)

Jason There's another chapter that is covered in red correction ink as if someone went in and edited it before publishing.

message 11: by s.penkevich (new)

s.penkevich It's one I've been meaning to read, just so many books. Yeah, stuff like that one some days I find really cool and creative, and on others (most) I scoff at.

message 12: by Carey (new)

Carey Shea I really liked your review. I didn't really like the book. Just too wierd for me and just didn't get it. Hey, not everyone likes certain books that don't make sense.

message 13: by Jason (new)

Jason Yeah, I agree; this was not the best book evarrr.

message 14: by Carey (new)

Carey Shea I can't understand why people give it high praises. I don't get it!

message 15: by Jason (new)

Jason Saied Hey, I just wanted to clear up your confusion about the stuff with Mr. Black and digging up the grave. But I have a question: does it actually say anywhere that he wore the card when he met with William Black? Because I've been searching and I can't find that.
But anyway, the meeting with William was NOT the same day as the day he went into Mr. Black's apartment. It just seems that way because of how Oskar talks; in the beginning of the chapter he's in the apartment and finds the card, and this is after he hasn't talked to Mr. Black in months. Then suddenly he says "I kept looking for the lock after he told me he was finished, but it wasnt the same. I went to Far Rockaway... etc" He transitions to the past and starts talking about the different Blacks he visited, and how after that last Black, he found out about the message from Abby and ended up seeing William. William was the same day as PETER Black (287), which happened way before he went into Mr. Black's apartment.
I hope this helps, and I'm sorry if he really does mention wearing the card when he sees William, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't.

message 16: by Jason (new)

Jason Jason wrote: "But I have a question: does it actually say anywhere that he wore the card when he met with William Black? Because I've been searching and I can't find that."

Thanks for trying to help me clear up the confusion, Jason, but here's the paragraph from when Oskar meets with William Black and it does reference the biograph card he got from the 'other' Mr. Black:
He said, "So what's so special about the envelope?" "Nothing, exactly. It's what was in the envelope." "Which was?" "Which was this." I pulled the string around my neck, and made it so the key to our apartment was on my back and Dad's key rested on the pouch of my overalls, over Mr. Black's biography, over the Band-Aid, over my heart. "Can I see that?" he asked. I took it off of my neck and handed it to him. He examined it and asked, "Did it say something on the envelope?" "It said 'Black.'" He looked up at me. "Did you find it in a blue vase?" "Jose!"
So this meeting had to have occurred after he went to Mr. Black's apartment, would you not agree?

message 17: by Nancy (new)

Nancy Your review expressed my mixed feelings about this book. I especially agree with your comments about Oskar's grandfather.

message 18: by Susana (new)

Susana Pereira I liked your review because I'm a bit like you: when I'm reading a book, I'm always making mental calculations and connections between what is being said and what has been told so far... I hate when there are discrepancies and I was also puzzled by that "Mr. Black's biography"...
On the other hand I really enjoyed the book with all its gimmicks and just wanted to share what I think to be the meaning of one of those: the letter covered in red correction ink must be the only letter that Thomas Schell senior ever sent to his son, because he was always carrying a red pen to mark the mistakes he found in the newspaper. I think it was a clever way of letting us know that that was the letter sent by the grandfather... :)

message 19: by Jason (new)

Jason I think in the end I liked it, too, though not as much as I had hoped to.

I do plan on reading other JSF books, as well. I've heard good things about Everything Is Illuminated.

Thanks for your comment, Susana!

message 20: by Mary (new)

Mary D. I agree with your review - I skipped a lot of this book - I found it too hard to follow, for me it didn't consistently carry a comprehensible narrative thread.

message 21: by Jason (new)

Jason I'm about to start another book of his, actually. We'll see if I like it better.

message 22: by Jason (new)

Jason Nope.

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