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nice thinking and questions.. I would like to believe that we should be forgiven our follies although i am not sure.. Austen herself thought that she was better alone so never got married..
I think the whole book is a lesson on extremes. Too much duty (Edward) versus too little duty (Willoughby). Too much rational thought (Elinor) versus too much emotion (Marianne.) Too much frivolity (Lord Middleton/Mrs. Jennings) versus too little fun (Colonel Brandon.)
Now I do I my preferences if I had to choose one extreme over the other (Edward is not the cad Willoughby is, for example) but I think Austen's whole point with this novel is to not fall on either end.
I don't think Marianne ruined her reputation. Although Willoughby was careful not to say the magic words, his behavior indicated to everyone around them that, if they weren't actually engaged, that was the intention. Which is why, when it was clear he wasn't going to marry her, everyone involved cut HIM, not her. Marianne's heart was broken, and her reaction impaired her health, but her reputation was still intact.
Don't misunderstand, I agree with your line of questions, but I'm sorry to inform you that the feminine pride of P&P ended the moment Elizabeth set eyes on Pemberley and considered that Darcy couldn't be so wrong if he had such wealth... and then "falling in love" with him on second thought...
Nonsense--it was not his wealth, but the way his servants and tenants spoke of him (added to the effect of his letter) that changed her mind. Elizabeth does SAY that her opinion changed when she saw his estates, but as Jane at once told her (again) to be serious, Lizzie was clearly joking about that.
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nice thinking and questions.. I would like to believe that we should be forgiven our follies although i am not sure.. Austen herself thought that she was better alone so never got married..
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I think the whole book is a lesson on extremes. Too much duty (Edward) versus too little duty (Willoughby). Too much rational thought (Elinor) versus too much emotion (Marianne.) Too much frivolity (Lord Middleton/Mrs. Jennings) versus too little fun (Colonel Brandon.) Now I do I my preferences if I had to choose one extreme over the other (Edward is not the cad Willoughby is, for example) but I think Austen's whole point with this novel is to not fall on either end.
I don't think Marianne ruined her reputation. Although Willoughby was careful not to say the magic words, his behavior indicated to everyone around them that, if they weren't actually engaged, that was the intention. Which is why, when it was clear he wasn't going to marry her, everyone involved cut HIM, not her. Marianne's heart was broken, and her reaction impaired her health, but her reputation was still intact.
Don't misunderstand, I agree with your line of questions, but I'm sorry to inform you that the feminine pride of P&P ended the moment Elizabeth set eyes on Pemberley and considered that Darcy couldn't be so wrong if he had such wealth... and then "falling in love" with him on second thought...
Nonsense--it was not his wealth, but the way his servants and tenants spoke of him (added to the effect of his letter) that changed her mind. Elizabeth does SAY that her opinion changed when she saw his estates, but as Jane at once told her (again) to be serious, Lizzie was clearly joking about that.

