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"La gaia scienza: raramente l'espressione nietzschiana è stata così azzeccata per un libro... un libro sui libri! Dal papiro ai supporti elettronici, percorriamo duemila anni di storia del libro attraverso una discussione contemporaneamente erudita e divertente, colta e personale, filosofica e aneddotica, curiosa e gustosa. Passiamo attraverso tempi diversi e diversi luogh ...more
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Published May 2009 by Bompiani
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Fionnuala
I was on a very rare visit to Foyle’s bookshop on Charing Cross Road in London earlier this year when I came across this book. One of the greatest pleasures of a real bookshop for me is finding something I'm not looking for. It's so much more exciting than putting a previously chosen list of titles into an online basket and clicking on checkout. As a faithful reader of paper and ink books in this age of of e-readers (and when I mistyped ‘book’ just now, my computer offered me ‘nook’, ‘iBook’ and ...more
Ahmad Sharabiani
N’espérez pas vous débarrasser des livres = This is Not the End of the Book, Umberto Eco, Jean-Claude Carriere, Jean-Philippe de Tonnac
A book lover today might sometimes feel like the fictional medieval friar William of Baskerville in Eco's The Name of the Rose, watching the written word become lost to time. In This Is Not the End of the Book, that book's author, Umberto Eco, and his fellow raconteur Jean-Claude Carriere sit down for a dazzling dialogue about memory and the pitfalls, blanks, omi
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Amir
بیایید طرح جلد افتضاح کتاب رو فراموش کنیم و بریم سراغ اصل مطلب
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همیشه تاسف میخوردم که استعداد پنج ستاره دادن به کتابها را رو از دست دادم، اما بالاخره چیزی که میخواستم پیدا شد. یک کتاب هیجانانگیز و باور نکردنی. کتابی که غیرممکنه عاشق کتاب باشی و عاشقش نشی. دیگه چی بهتر از اینکه دو تا کتابباز کهنهکار بشینن کنار هم و برای همدیگه از عشقشون حرف بزنن؟ دو نفر که دیوانهن و امبرتو اکو دیوانهتر. عشق امبرتو اکو جمع کردن کتابهای خطیای هست که موضوعشون عقاید باطل و بیخود هست. هر دو تای این دیوانه هم عاشق تاریخ
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Hossein
Dec 24, 2015 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
با خواندن اين كتاب مگر مي توان حسادت نورزيد؟
دو نفر كه به شدت دوستدار كتاب هستند و از طرفي هم مجموعه داراني بزرگ.
تقريبا در اين كتاب از هر دري صحبت به ميان مي آيد و اكو و كرير اطلاعات نامحدودشان را به رخ خواننده مي كشند.
اونجايي كه اكو ميگه پنجاه هزار جلد و كرير هم ميگه چهل هزار جلد كتاب دارم سرگيجه ي خفيفي بهم دست داد.
در كل كتاب بسيار جذابي بود و لذت بردم.
MJ Nicholls
This engaging confab between one famous novelist and one unfamous screenwriter provides much engagement for its number of pages. These two chaps understand the bibliophile’s obsession and the importance of the book as an artefact and piece of art. The confab avoids the usual book v. e-reader debates (“I can highlight passages on my kindle!” the idiots shriek), and focuses on literary and historical arcana. Perfect between-book fodder.
Özlem Güzelharcan
May 19, 2016 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: movies, interview
İki bibliyofilin bir araya gelip 250 sayfa boyunca kitaplardan, kütüphanelerden, belleklerimizden, sinemadan, eski çağlardan ve kültürlerden dem vurmalarını içeren bir kitap. Her bibliyofil edinmeli, okumalı. Eco'nun kütüphanesini, elinde bulunan eserleri kıskanacak, Carriere'in anektotlarına ve felsefesine bayılacaksınız. Her ikisi de basılı kitap kültürünün hiç ölmeyeceğine inanıyorlar. Bu umutlu söyleşi için kendilerine teşekkür ediyorum.

Kitaptan:

Carriere: Şu Arjantin fıkrasını duymuşsunuzdur
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Mahdie Bjr
Mar 21, 2015 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
كتاب خيلي عالي! ترجمه هم خيلي خوووب! :-)
Mohamad
Nov 18, 2015 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
اومبرتو اكو و ژان كلود كرير از هر چيز كه به كتاب ربط دارد صحبت مي كنند.با شناختي كه از اكو داشتم فكر مي كردم بيشتر بار گفت و گو بر دوش او است.ولي از همان اول كرير صحبت را در دست مي گيرد و تقريبا تا آخر كتاب اين وضع ادامه مي يابد.
و سوالي كه شايد هر كتابخواني آخر كتاب از خود بپرسد:يعني من هم وقتي مثل اكو و كرير پير شدم، آنقدر ها كتاب خوانده ام كه بتوانم ساعت ها در موردشان صحبت كنم و از هر دري سخني براي گفتن داشته باشم؟

كتابخانه تا حدي مثل يك مصاحب،يا گروهي از دوستان و افراد زنده است.هر گاه خود را ك
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baQer (BFZ)
Apr 12, 2017 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: interview
ژان کلود کریر: در کتابخانه حس میکنید که از اشتباه، دودلی، و همچنین سرمای زمستان در امان ماندهاید. وقتی که همهی اندیشههای جهان، همهی احساسات، همهی آگاهیها و همهی عادات ریشهدار ممکن شما را در میان گرفته باشند، احساسی از امنیت و آسایش بهتان دست میدهد. هرگز در درون کتابخانهتان احساس سرما نخواهید کرد. در هر صورت، از خطر یخبندان نادانی در امان خواهید بود ...more
Bach Tran Quang
Jan 31, 2014 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
:) Một buổi đối thoại tuyệt vời của hai học giả, những người chơi sách có tiếng. Chỉ đọc cuốn sách này thôi mà đã có bao nhiêu điều muốn tìm hiểu thêm. Quả là "tửu phùng tri kỷ thiên bôi thiếu, ý bất tâm đầu bán cú đa". Ngồi nghe 2 ngài này chém gió chắc cả ngày vẫn không thấy chán. Từ việc gặp những cuốn sách tri kỷ, gìn giữ những nét văn hoá, sách trải qua các thời kỳ kiểm duyệt bằng lửa thiêu thế nào, cho đến những cuốn sách chưa bgio đọc, những thư viện gia đình và việc trả lời những câu hỏi ...more
Maryam
Jan 02, 2015 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
کتاب مهم همیشه زنده می ماند با ما بزرگ می شود و با ما پیر می شود و هرگز نمی میرد.زمان بارورش می سازد و تغییرش می دهد در حالیکه که کتابهای بی اهمیت به حاشیه تاریخ می روند و محو می شوند.
Peycho Kanev
May 15, 2012 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
"The book is like the spoon: once invented, it cannot be bettered". (Eco)

Contrary to the title, this is not a book in the conventional sense but a conversation on books between polymath and screenwriter that was "curated" by a third party.
Eco and Carriere exchange insider information about book collecting. You can find the occasional bargain, Eco says. “In America, a book in Latin won’t interest the collectors even if it’s terribly rare, because they don’t read foreign languages, and definitely
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Yaser Aein
Oct 28, 2017 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
مثل هر چیز دیگر، کتابخوانی هم حاشیههای مهمتر از متنی دارد که اگرچه زمان زیادی صرف فکرکردن به آنها میکنیم، هیچوقت گفتگو درباره آنها به شایستگی جریان نمییابد. در این میان، ابتکار یک آدم باهوش و خوشقریحه که دو کتابخوان حرفهای، دو کتابباز کتابخوار، دو مجموعهدار طماع و بهتر از همه این توصیفات، دو دیوانه کتاب را روبروی هم بنشاند و آنها را به گفتگو درباره جنبههای بیشمار کتاب و کتابخوانی وادار سازد، بسی مغتنم خواهد بود. اجازه میخواهم تا دیر نشده موضع پیشینم درباره دو دیوانه خواندن «ژان کلود کریر» و «امب ...more
Tuệ Trần
Việc đầu tiên là hai vị này không bàn về cái Ipad như trên bìa: đây là một thất vọng cực lớn.

Đứng trên danh nghĩa một người sưu tầm sách (hạng bét bèn bẹt), đoạn trường kỳ đối thoại của Eco và Carrière khá thú vị đối với tôi, vì có nhiều đoạn tôi thấy mình lọt trong đó.

Ví dụ như đoạn một ông nọ bay từ Mễ Latin qua đến Pháp để đàm phán mua một cuốn sách cổ, tốn hết 3 ngày 3 đêm thì mua được, đoạn trở về thì ông nọ để quên cuốn sách ở trên máy bay, và ông này chả thấy nó quan trọng lắm. Cái thú
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Tieu uyen
Đúng là bị cái tên Eco nó làm cho mờ mắt, mua xong cắm cúi đọc. Đọc xong mới thấy, anh zai Eco già rồi, toàn nói nhăng. Chán ốm. Ngoài chuyện các anh zai có tuổi không còn trẻ khoe với nhau bộ sưu tập sách cổ, rồi sưu tập thế nào, kiếm ở đâu, kiếm dư lào, thì thi thoảng có xen vào chuyện ibook, ebook này nọ nhưng nói chung là nhạt, nhạt toẹt í. À thêm chuyện lâu lâu xách mé anh Dan Brown 1 tí, nói về trung cổ 1 tí, thì chả khác gì nghe các cụ già vỉa hè ngồi hút thuốc lào uống nước chè tán láo. ...more
Ştefan Bolea
Although being a major fan of both Carriere and Eco, I found their tone too nostalgic and reactionary. I expected to hear more about ebook readers & "digital cosmology". Perhaps if the late Baudrillard and Zizek had met and started to talk about books, the rhythm and content of the discussion would have been much more spectacular.
Данило Судин
Це книжка-інтерв’ю трьох чоловіків, один з який задає питання, а двоє - відповідають або говорять між собою. Подекуди складається відчуття, що вони собі добре так випивають і не дуже переймаються тим, що їхні слова прочитає хтось четвертий. Тому деколи розмова відходить дуже далеко від початкової теми, деколи до цього її спонукає ввічливість: "Умберто, ти почав говорити про історію колеса, але я тебе перебив розповіддю про перше видання Мольєра. То розкажи ж нам про колесо, благаю! - Будь ласка, ...more
Arghya Dutta
This book is a collection of conversations about books in general. It discusses the book as a media, the fate of books in this age of internet, the passion of book collecting and many other interesting topics. Though I don't like many erroneous, or more accurately racist(!), comments made by Carriere, not Eco, about Asiatic cultures which are scattered in the book (for example, some ideas are understanable by only some races, an Indian will never grasp the idea of concept!), the book reads very ...more
Mar_yamane
خب به نظرم همهی آدمکتابیها، کتاببازها، کتابخرها، کتابخونها و و و باید این کتابو بخونند.
چرا؟
چون این تو دربارهی هر چیزی که به نحوی به کتاب ربط داشته باشه، حرف هست. از پیدایش کتاب گرفته تا نسل جدید ایبوکها، از کتابخونهداری تا چی بخونیم/چی نخونیم/ چرا بخونیم و و و
به همهی اینها اگه اضافه کنید دیوونهبازیهای اکو رو، اون وقت لازم میشه این کتاب رو آدم قورت بده، نه که فقط بخونه.
چون تا الان هزارتا ریویو براش نوشتم، بهتر از این نمیشد بنویسیم دربارهش.
اصلا عنوان کتاب با آدم حرف میزنه. میشه نخوندش؟
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Arun Divakar
Jul 06, 2012 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
I sometimes rummage through the racks of the New Arrivals section of my library just to get a kick out of books which I have never before heard of. In one such expedition and upon reading Eco's name, I turned this book around to read the back jacket blurb. One single line made me decide that I wanted to read this book The book is the like the spoon, the hammer or a wheel which once invented cannot be bettered. And so I began my sessions with Umberto Eco and Jean Claude Carriere.

Having never h
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Per Gunnar
Dec 26, 2012 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
This book is so far from my normal reading that it could just as well be some alien scribblings from another galaxy … and I loved every minute of reading it. It is also something as exotic as a old-fashioned paper book. You know, the kind that uses sheets made out of vegetable material with something called ink on each sheet. It is a lot thicker than a tablet and there is no built in light thus you cannot read it in front of the telly or in a otherwise dark room. My father tells me that this is ...more
Hakan
Feb 25, 2016 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
ellişer bin kitaba ve binlerce nadir esere sahip iki bilge adamın kitaplar üzerine sohbeti: kitabın beş bin yıllık tarihinden şaşırtıcı notlar, kitapların bugününe ve geleceğine dair görüşler ve yazarların birer bibliyofil ve koleksiyoncu olarak maceraları...kitapseverlerin keyif almaması ve yazarlara imrenmemesi imkansız. bir not olarak, sohbetin/kitabın genelinde sinemacı olarak tanıdığımız jean claude carriere'in bilgisi ve birikimi ile ön plana çıktığını, umberto eco'nun da eğlenceli hikayel ...more
Shahrzad
Oct 15, 2016 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
ساکت نشستی یه گوشه و صحبتهای دو نفر رو در مورد «کتاب» گوش میکنی، قسمت خوبش اینه که نمیتونی توی این مکالمه شرکت کنی و فقط از لذت شنیدن در مورد کتاب بهره میبری. ...more
Shaghayegh.l3
Jul 28, 2017 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: favorits
اگه از اون دست آدمايى هستيد كه با وجود داشتن چندتا كتاب نخونده بازم كتاب جديد ميخريد و به معناى واقعى خوره ى كتاب هستيد اين كتاب واسه شماست . البته نميگم به درد بقيه نميخوره اما اون همه بحثاى پر جزئيات حول و حوش كتاب و كتابخونه و خاطره هاى دو نفر كه نشناختنشون اصلن اهميتى نداره چون به محض خوندن حرفاشون عاشقشون ميشين فقط روح كتابخوارها رو تمام و كمال ارضا ميكنه . بخاطر همين انقد خوندنشو كش دادم ، دلم نميخواس زود تموم شه ..
Steffi
Kürzlich war in den Zeitungen zu lesen, dass Amazon erstmals mehr E-Books als „richtige“ Bücher verkauft habe. Da graut einem vor der Zukunft. Werden bald E-Books in so hoher und die eigentlichen Bücher in so niedriger Stückzahl verkauft, dass nur noch E-Books erschwinglich sind und andere Ausgaben nur noch etwas für den altmodischen, nach Möglichkeit gut betuchten, Buchliebhaber? Gelten Menschen, die in Wohnungen mit langen Bücherregalen leben bald als etwas sonderlich, wenn nicht ungesund? Sch ...more
Aasem Bakhshi
If culture is an extended process of selection and filtering, then are the books which can be thought of cultural vehicles - the one in our hands so to speak - the best or worst representation of times gone by? Are the ancient classics we indulge in are truly the best cultural products of their times? Are books the best possible means of expression since antiquity? What about the prehistoric times? Can all the modern wonders of technology, the ever evolving digital media formats, can surpass the ...more
Bastet
Nov 24, 2013 rated it it was ok  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: books-on-books
Este libro es un poco tramposo, se vende como lo que no es, porque el escritor y periodista francés Jean-Philippe de Tonnac no entrevista a Jean-Claude Carrière y a Umberto Eco, sino que se limita a moderar un debate entre dos bibliófilos; debate donde cada uno de los oradores intenta arrimar el ascua a su sardina: Umberto se explaya hablando básicamente de sus libros y Carrière remite una y otra vez a sus películas (por cierto, el francés "chupa más cámara" que el italiano). Ambos demuestran un ...more
mohsen pourramezani
{امبرتو اکو} احترام به نوشته و بعدها کتاب، قدمتی برابر قدمت خط دارد. (ص 33)
ژان فیلیپ دوتوناک (نویسندهی کتاب) یک روز با امبرتو اکو (نویسنده) و ژان کلود کریر (فیلمنامهنویس) دورهمی نشستهاند و دربارهی کتاب گپ زدهاند و حاصلش شده این کتاب
به نظرم کتاب خوبی و جذابی است به خصوص اگر یک خورهی کتاب باشید.
برایم جالب بود که ژان کلود کریر اطلاعات خوبی در مورد تاریخ ایران داشت البته بعدا فهمیدم پدرزنش ایرانی است.

ترجمه کتاب خوب و روان است اما به نظرم یکی دو جا در زیرنویس توضیحاتِ مترجم اضافه و حتی گمراه کننده
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Daniela
Sep 29, 2014 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
"El libro es como la cuchara, el martillo, la rueda, las tijeras. Una vez se han inventado, no se puede hacer nada mejor"...
Me resultó refrescante, fue como sentarse en un cafe y escuchar muy cerca a dos amantes de los libros conversar y conversar, en temas inagotables, con coincidencias y divergencias pero siempre refrescante.

Un libro para compartir con todos los que quieren y se interesan por el libro.
Sve
Feb 28, 2016 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: irecommend
Тази книга носи огромен интелектуален кеф.
На страниците й има толкова много препратки към други книги, автори и любопитни истории, свързани с книгите, че повечето любители на четенето със сигурност има какво да открият за себе си.
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