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Teaching as a Subversive Activity

4.22  ·  Rating details ·  1,160 ratings  ·  89 reviews
A no-holds-barred assault on outdated teaching methods--with dramatic & practical proposals on how education can be made relevant to today's world.
Introduction
Crap detecting
The medium is the message, of course
The inquiry method
Pursuing relevance
What's worth knowing?
Meaning making
Languaging
New teachers
City schools
New languages: the media-
Two alternatives
So what do yo
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Paperback, 240 pages
Published July 15th 1971 by Delta (first published January 1st 1969)
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Trevor
Jun 20, 2015 rated it it was amazing
In a sense this book is getting quite old – you know, late 1960s and all that. And so many of the examples given are from people you may never have heard of or to events like the Vietnam War which are not quite as eternally present now as they were then. For example, at least three times ‘future shock’ is mentioned as having just entered the vernacular, which is used to explain how the concept has become basically a universal concern, but if anything this proved to be a kind of revolving door – ...more
Mark Osborne
Jun 09, 2012 rated it it was amazing
Perhaps one of the most depressing aspects of Postman and Weingartner’s book (written some 45 years ago) is how much of it still applies. Many of the criticisms that he levels at schools of their day are at least as valid now, if not more so.
Some (extremely distilled) points:
- One of a school’s primary functions is to equip students with ‘crap detectors’ so that they may successfully spot time when people are attempting to manipulate them.
- School should be about ‘inquiry’ not about the transmis
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Amy
Oct 19, 2008 rated it it was ok
Shelves: education
I used the beginning of this book to help me write my Masters Thesis. It was extremely helpful and relevant to my topic and my role as a teacher in my own classroom. I felt after a while, Postman turned a bit too extreme for my taste. (Let me interject that I am a big Postman fan and have really enjoyed reading him throughout my grad classes.) Although I appreciated what he had to say, he was so radical he makes it hard not to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

It came to a point where he co
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Julianne
Apr 21, 2009 rated it it was amazing
Shelves: non-fiction
This is one of the very best books on education I’ve ever read. Although published in 1969, I find myself wishing that everyone everywhere would pick it up and read it. Though it’s a bit long on references to Vietnam and rather out of date in some of its neuroscience (see Ch. 7: Languaging), it still has extremely important things to say to both teachers and students. (Sorry, administrators, you don’t even make the list, seeing as how you are unnecessary and in many cases counterproductive to th ...more
Spencer B
Nov 15, 2010 rated it really liked it
This book was written primarily as a manifesto for inquiry based learning. It is reasonably convincing as such, but has a major flaw. While discussing the problems brought about by the educational bureaucracy he fails to even consider the schooling model most suited to an inquiry based learning environment, homeschooling. Not only are parents not included as potential teacher or implementers of his strategies he fails to consider them even as parents or the impact that parents have either as age ...more
Beth
Mar 26, 2008 rated it it was amazing
I pulled this book off my dad's shelves when I had dropped out of architecture school and was trying to figure out what to do with my life.

Twenty years later, let me tell you that this was a major turning point in my decision to become a teacher. It was also a philosophy that kept me bordering on mutiny most of my teaching career...

Every education student should read this book -- agree with it or not.

Thank you, Neil Postman!
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Chrisl
Sep 16, 2012 rated it really liked it
Shelves: 1960s, dew01-499
One of two books that have remained with me conceptually from my days in the 'school of education.'
Liked Postman's perspective.
(The other Illich ...
Deschooling Society
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Rob Baker
Jul 29, 2020 rated it really liked it
Decades ago I went through a glorious phase of reading some works of R. Buckminster Fuller, most memorably "Critical Path" and "Operating Manual for Spaceship Earth". Many of Fuller’s ideas have stuck with me over the years and have profoundly influenced my thinking. One of these was the concept that there is always a time lag between what experts in various fields have developed the ability to do and the integration of their new ideas into general practice. For example, I seem to recall that in ...more
Katy
May 29, 2015 rated it it was amazing
Shelves: education, favorites
A must-read for anyone with interest in a new vision for education. Although written nearly 50 years ago, the vast majority of this text is still vital to our visioning––perhaps even more so. Postman and Weingartner address education both philosophically and practically, with suggestions for how we might immediately change our approach to education as well as long-term questions to consider in the way we imagine learning.

Sadly, unlike anything I had to read in my teacher education program, but w
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N
May 27, 2018 rated it it was amazing
It's utterly distressing how relevant this book remains 49 years after it was published. Learning isn't about preparing for trivial standardized tests or trying to win your teacher's approval - it's about learning to question and learn from the world around you. My dad always gave me one piece of advice when going to school - "Ask hard questions." We're still in a place where students aren't always encouraged to do that. ...more
Emma
Nov 30, 2011 rated it really liked it
Probably the only useful thing that's come out of the university based portion of my teaching course so far. Postman advocates for large-scale change to the school system which would move the child back to the centre instead of the focus being on teaching. I can't say anything about anywhere else but I can see how elements of his ideas have been incorperated in the UK, with the idea of student-focused lessons and moving away from transmission-learning, but at the end of the day it's all the same ...more
Jolene
Feb 02, 2021 rated it really liked it
What am I going to have my students do today?
What's it good for?
How do I know? (193)
It's insane that this book, literally written in the 60s, still holds so much relevance to today's education system slash world. I mean, this: "[Censorship] is easy to do ... when the loudspeakers are owned and operated by mammoth corporations with enormous investments in their proprietorship. What we get is an entirely new politics, including the possibility that a major requirement for the holding of polit
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Masha
Some things I disagree with, but in many other ways it's incisive and illuminating, real shit ...more
Joel Sanford
May 21, 2018 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Overall, I found Teaching as a Subversive Activity to be engaging, insightful, and entertaining. The central arguments are clearly stated within the first three chapters, and the authors provide numerous examples and illustrations to reinforce them throughout the rest of the book. These arguments are certainly bold, and the writing style matches this boldness, to the point of being deliberately provocative at times – especially, I imagine, for readers with a strong commitment to traditional form ...more
Paul
May 15, 2019 rated it it was amazing
Soooooo gooood. All educators should read this.
Sophie
Oct 31, 2019 rated it really liked it
Shelves: 4-stars
Read this for one of my classes but was surprised by how much I enjoyed it. It’s a super dense read, jam-packed with information but it’s all interesting.
Chrisanne
Sep 11, 2020 rated it it was amazing
Postman takes aim at education, proving that education has been terrible since the 60s and, from my experience, has possibly gotten worse. I wish I was still teaching so that I could implement his theories. Though the administrative authorities and boards would dislike it because it might make their jobs irrelevant.
Linda DeYounge
Jun 28, 2015 rated it it was amazing
Recommended to Linda by: Katy
Shelves: pedagogy
A must-read for every pre-service and current teacher! I cannot sing the praises of this book long and loud enough. Not only does it focus education back on the student asking questions, creating curriculum, demanding relevance in their education, it also forces teachers to ask the same tough questions of the current systems.

This book will not ask you to think within the system. It will push you to question everything you know about education and what its purpose is. It will force you to confron
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Erik Graff
Jan 06, 2015 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: teachers
Recommended to Erik by: a teacher
This was my favorite book for the Educational Psychology course taken at Grinnell College in Iowa during a brief flirtation with the idea of becoming a high school teacher (I had so loved so many of mine) should the Revolution be accomplished or delayed.

While I remember many of the readings for this course, I don't recall the name of its instructor. This is dismaying as he was, like the readings, memorable in many respects. While he looked straight and wasn't one of the younger instructors, the
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Catherine
Apr 18, 2010 rated it liked it
Shelves: lit-crit, nonfiction
It was disappointing to read that the ideas my teachers' college has been presenting as "new" teaching "reform" have been around since before I was born. Will new ideas in education always take 40 years to percolate? ...more
Boreal Elizabeth
Aug 14, 2008 rated it it was amazing
Neil Postman is responsible for me dropping out of high school, pursuing teaching in college and dropping out of teaching after my student teaching.
J
Dec 09, 2012 rated it liked it
The material is dated, but it is still forward thinking. I would say its pretty much the blue print for contemporary cutting edge thinking in 2012 - not bad considering Postman wrote this in 1968.
Kenneth
Jan 04, 2015 rated it really liked it
I liked this book so much when I read it in high school that, when I was finished with it, I stuck my copy in the teachers' lounge. ...more
Barry Kenna
Jun 28, 2018 rated it it was amazing
I read Postman's account of TVs affect on American culture, politics and education 'Amusing Ourselves to Death' and was impressed with how clear and incisive his writing is. As result of that, I decided to buy this book and I wasn't disappointed. Most of Postman's work 'posts' (cause he's a postman after all) more questions than it answers but this book can be seen as a call to arms for teachers. It promotes a disregard for old stale teaching methods and calls for a focus on how people learn; in ...more
Thom Gething
Feb 08, 2018 rated it liked it
"This book was written because we are serious, dedicated, professional educators, which means we are simple, romantic men who risk contributing to the mental-health problem by maintaining a belief in the improvability of the human condition through education."

Postman and Weingartner set out their stall with this opening statement, which illustrates both the strengths of the book, including a constant thread of humour. Written nearly 50 years ago, this book burns brightly in the first half as the
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Jeff Wong
Oct 21, 2019 rated it it was amazing
As I am fully immersed in attempting to deliver an Inquiry-based education for my students, I went back to read this seminal tome on this topic. It certainly delivers! Published in 1969, the authors write in what must have been a sacrilegious fashion to the educators of the day as so very much of those points attack the present dogma in the educational field in which I am in. The pithy challenge to teachers comes in the "So What Do You Do Now" chapter XII ---- What am I going to have my students ...more
Craig
Jan 29, 2021 rated it it was amazing
Wow, there are a lot of wonderful ideas to consider in this book that are just as relevant today as they were back in 1969. I'm not sure I'm ready (or capable) of being that "subversive", but I sure found myself nodding along with many of their critiques of our traditional education curricula and school structures. I would love to see what a classroom looks like that implements their model of education. I've been trained for so long in what "should" be taught in schools and what a "good" classro ...more
Ietrio
Apr 14, 2021 rated it it was ok
Reading the blurb, it sounds like two older simpletons are weaving the same old smart discourse: the good old times. To be more precise, the good old days of clearly defined propaganda spewed by a few national outlets controlled by government bureaucrats are gone. And apparently Postman and his buddy have a hard time dealing with the multiple unruly outlets that seem to simply ignore the party directives and go ahead and write about anything.

I hope I am wrong. I'll be back when I'm done with the
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Justin Martin
Mar 07, 2019 rated it it was amazing
Astounding, no-bullshit argument about the dynamic wonderment of the student compared to the capitalist, abusive lurch of a dying school system. It dares to ask what - and who - we say school is for, and whether we back that up with an environment that feeds them rather than crushing them as we teach them to be rote mimics. I sorely wish Postman was still alive. The whole book is the obvious, stated with the force of the strange and divine.
Nicholas
Actual rating 3.5 out of 5. It's not a full 4 simply as a matter of personal enjoyability--most of this stuff I already knew from my first teaching course. Thankfully a lot has changed in education since this was published and constructivist methods are more the norm, where I live anyway. Still, this is a good read with some powerful radical ideas. ...more
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Neil Postman, an important American educator, media theorist and cultural critic was probably best known for his popular 1985 book, Amusing Ourselves to Death. For more than four decades he was associated with New York University, where he created and led the Media Ecology program.

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