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And Both Were Young

3.87  ·  Rating details ·  3,814 ratings  ·  299 reviews
Flip doesn't think she'll ever fit in at the Swiss boarding school. Besides being homesick for her father and Connecticut, she isn't sophisticated like the other girls, and discussions about boys leave her tongue-tied. Her happiest times are spent apart from the others, sketching or wandering in the mountains.

But the day she's out walking alone and meets a French boy,
Paperback, 256 pages
Published February 15th 1983 by Laurel Leaf (first published 1949)
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Stacey No, this book is unrelated to the "Time" books. It is regular YA fiction with no science fiction of fantasy elements at all.

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Nov 27, 2007 rated it it was amazing
Recommends it for: skiers, boarding school castaways, winter lovers
Dammit, I love Flip. I love Madeleine L'Engle, I love the idea of boarding schools, Switzerland, and French boys and girls snowed into a storm of romance, adventure, and heartbreaking loneliness. (I've also only realized that I've always had a strange attraction for the widowed father and only daughter stories. This one absolutely fills that niche.)

I've reread this book countless times now, and each read only makes me happier and sentimental for the gorgeous but grounding tales of Madeleine
Oct 21, 2018 rated it it was amazing
Underrated, underappreciated. I mean, it didn't hit my buttons, and I still loved it. I think because it's original. How many stories with a widowed father *don't* have him getting married off? How many stories of a lonely girl have her favorite teacher *scolding* her for self-absorption?* How many stories of boarding schools are there in which almost all the girls are *nice*? How many stories talk about Lost Children, and the lives of the Germans as they rejoin the international community after ...more
Moonlight Reader
I've been doing a L'Engle read for the last year or so & decided to read this standalone in connection with a genre reading challenge - February is romance month. I previously read this book back when I was in junior high/early high school. It was originally published in 1949, which makes it one of her very early novels (it appears this was 3rd), and I probably read it around 1978.

It is quite dated, but that doesn't mean it isn't also enjoyable. It is set in a Swiss boarding school, which
Lisa Vegan
Jul 14, 2007 rated it really liked it
Recommends it for: L’Engle fans who might have missed this one, if lost mother young/boarding school experience
Not my favorite LEngle but still worth reading. About a teenage girl whose mother has died who gets sent to a Swiss boarding school and her adjustment to her new life: her relationships with a new boy, her teachers & fellow students at the school, her father and his girlfriend. I love LEngles flawed but gifted girl characters. A lot here that rang true, especially how an adolescent girl might feel when a father dates after the mother dies.

Important to read the reissue with Madeleine LEngles
Joy (joyous reads)
Jun 15, 2011 rated it liked it
Shelves: throwbackthurs
My experience with this book is not very pleasant. I mean, it wasnt bad. No, not at all. I suppose it can be compared to when one is reading the back of a Raisin Bran box of cereal while shovelling spoonfuls of them in their mouth: its good for you but in the end, its no choco puffs. The thing is, I feel like Ive been gipped. The blurb at the back of this book advertises FORBIDDEN ROMANCE in big, bold letters. And if you know me, you know thats a huge bait. Besides, its MADELEINE LENGLE! How ...more
This was apparently quite daring when it was originally published in the 1940s, so much that it had to be bowdlerized. But it seems awfully tame to me. I read the original (non-bowdlerized) version and find myself wondering just what they felt they needed to cut out. The whole "mysterious stranger lurking around" subplot seemed pretty truncated to me.

Nevertheless, this was a good book. It does a good job portraying the claustrophobic, almost incestuous boarding school atmosphere (I would have
Sep 08, 2007 rated it really liked it
What girl doesn't fantasize about going to a Swiss boarding school, having a dashing artist father, a mysterious and beautiful mentor/teacher, and a dark, brooding forest boy to fall in love with?
Apr 30, 2010 rated it really liked it
I think this may have been the last Madeleine L'Engle book I read (for the first time) as a teenager. And for some reason it holds a sort of distinction in my head because of that fact. I, like most other readers I know who love her books, got in on the whole thing with A Wrinkle in Time, moving on to the other Murry and O'Keefe family books and then the Austin family series and so on from there. I must have been somewhere around ten or so when I first read the Time series and by the time I got ...more
This made me want to go to a Swiss boarding school with stick-up-the-ass rules and a bunch of kind of snobby girls.
And Both Were Young is good as boarding school stories go and has a sweet, quiet romance, but I don't think the part of the plot which has to do with Paul's history works very well with the rest of it. I mean, the wartime amnesia thing is fine and interesting, but not the mysterious stranger part. Anyway, I do like the convincing way in which Flip grows from shyness to confidence during the course of the book, and of course I pretty much always like boarding school stories.
Anna Smithberger
Oct 07, 2017 rated it liked it
This was very sweet. Definitely reads like book from early in an author's career, but still worthwhile.
Bryn (Plus Others)
Sep 05, 2019 rated it really liked it
I read this during my teenage years and had the sense that I had liked it, but remembered nothing about it. Originally published in 1949, it is very much a post-war novel; Flip goes to a European boarding school in part because her artist father is travelling the globe to work on a book about the Lost Children (those who were separated from their families during the war), and while as an American she wasn't directly in the conflict, most of the other girls she meets carry the weight of the war ...more
Heidi Anderson
Feb 02, 2019 rated it it was amazing
My goal is to read all Maeleine L'Engle's books this year and this was a great first choice! It's been awhile since Wrinkle in Time!
Deborah Markus
Sep 22, 2014 rated it really liked it
Just a wonderful story, set shortly after World War II.

Philippa Hunter, a timid, artistic teenager, must attend a Swiss boarding school while her father, a professional painter, travels Europe. Philippa ("Flip" to her family) knows this year is going to be horrible. She's never been able to make friends she's awkward both socially and physically, more so than ever thanks to a kneecap shattered in the car accident that killed her mother the year before. She's always clung to her family, and now
Monica Edinger
Sep 02, 2007 rated it it was amazing
Well, I would have given it five stars when I read it over and over and over when I was around twelve. (I even tried to copy out the library copy, but gave up after a few chapters. In those times and place, I didn't think you could buy books. Living in East Lansing, Michigan circa 1964, you couldn't very easily.)
Payal Jain
Apr 16, 2015 rated it it was amazing
This book was absolutely divine!
L'engle did Switzerland justice and there was some amazing character building. I adored the friendship between Paul & Flip. . . It was the stuff legends are made of. :)
This is one book that's gonna stay with me.
And I don't care that it's summer. I wanna get me some hot chocolate and go stargaze!
Dec 27, 2018 rated it really liked it
I have only read A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L'Engle which was one of my favs as a child. I read this for a challenge for my book group, a book set in Switzerland. I really liked this story. Written in 1949 and set in a boring school in Switzerland. We meet Philippa or Flip as she likes to be called. She feels she doesn't fit in with the other girls and ventures out beyond the school grounds. Flip meets Paul and their friendship begins. It is a sweet story very reminiscent of young adult ...more
Aug 05, 2018 rated it really liked it
I rounded up on my star rating because I love the author. But the book is probably more like 3.5 stars. When it came out in 1949, it was probably a delight for young ladies the world over. A boarding school in Switzerland! A young man with a murky past! But by todays standards its pretty tame. It was a lovely little story though, and I enjoyed the innocence of its characters. ...more
Mar 03, 2018 rated it it was amazing
A coming of age story, a boarding school in the Swiss Alps, mystery and romance, Madeleine L'Engle...can it get any better?

"She began to feel the sense of wonderful elation that always came to her when beauty took hold of her and made her forget her fears."
Katie Avagliano
Sep 25, 2017 rated it really liked it
I wish I'd thought to explore more of L'Engle's books when I was younger. I always loved a Wrinkle in Time but after his I suspect I would have gobbled them all up. A lovely book for 8-11 year olds (though be prepared to explain a little about the Holocaust to them, there will be questions)
Julie S.
May 17, 2018 rated it liked it
(3.5) A sweet coming of age novel. Middle grade level, I think? The characters were charming, the dialogue a little unrealistic for teenagers, but I still liked it. Just because I didnt give it four+ stars doesnt mean it wasnt good. (Yes, Mom, Im talking to you. 😘) ...more
Apr 28, 2019 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Cute, though the cover was misleading and made it look far more modern than it is. This book is set further back than it looks, which is part of what make it an interesting thing to read.
Sep 29, 2017 rated it it was ok
2.5 stars - I love me some Madeleine L'Engle, but apparently all L'Engle are not created equal. But this is one of her very first. Wrote this for me to remember, s/o to anyone else who may read this
Nov 14, 2011 rated it really liked it

Madeleine L'Engle's career did not take off until the publication in 1962 of A Wrinkle in Time, which went on to win the Newbery Medal and remains her most well known book to this day. But she began writing adult novels in 1945, novels that were published but did not sell very well and quickly fell out of print. She almost gave up writing in 1958.

Had these early novels been around when I was in my teens, I would have read and loved them I am sure. Reading them now, I like them better than A
Feb 20, 2010 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Originally posted here.

I'm so glad they decided to re-issue this one with a new cover and that I didn't have to hunt down an out of print copy. I love the new cover too, I like how the pink stands out against all that snow and how it portrays Flip and Paul taking a walk. And Both Were Young is similar to Camilla in the sense that it's a quiet sort of novel. However, there's more to look forward to in the former and I enjoyed reading it more than the latter. Even though I'm an outgoing person, I
Feb 05, 2009 rated it really liked it
And Both Were Young is a story about growth, understanding and love. Three themes that Madeleine L'Engle handles with both strength and humility.

Philippa Hunter recently lost her mother whom she loved dearly. Her father, Phillip Hunter, is grieving and involved with a woman Philippa loves to hate, Eunice. Despite Philippa's pleas her father follows Eunice's advise and sends Philippa to attend an international boarding school in Switzerland. At the school she struggles with fitting in and making
Jul 14, 2010 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: ya, fiction
Written and set right after WWII, this book is a period piece by Madeleine L'Engle long before she became the best-selling children's novelist in the 1960s. Having been assured this book gives you glimpses of the nascent character traits that reappeared with Meg Murry years later I couldn't resist reading it.

Set in Switzerland, an American girl is sent to a boarding school because of her father's job. Philippa has to deal with being away from home, separated from her father, and still adjust to
Kiirsi Hellewell
Mar 01, 2011 rated it really liked it
It's a rare book that leaves me closing the cover on the last page, feeling totally content, at peace with the world, and full of a warm "perfect book" glow.

This book did that for me.

At first it was hard to get into Flip's story...the first half kind of dragged. She had a hard life, and at times I was angry with the boarding-school teachers for being so hard on her. But to her credit, she took their corrections and criticism and tried her best to become the best she could be.

I loved how she
Mar 13, 2011 rated it really liked it
Shelves: 2011, young-adult, romance
The last time I saw an edition of "And Both Were Young" was when I handed my copy over to a friend in high school. She liked romance novels, and I thought she should read it because it has the sentimentality of romance combined with a need for self-discovery. I never saw the book again, so thankfully it has just been released as a re-print.

I bought it and revisited this tale growing up, at first with some trepidation. What if I didn't like it as much as I did at thirteen? Would it tarnish my
Rachel Bergman
Mar 08, 2015 rated it really liked it
And Both Were Young by Madeleine L'Engle is a fabulous book that has easily deserved its four-star rating. The story begins with a young Philippa, Flip, who is being sent to a Swiss, all-girl boarding school. Here, she finds herself an outcast, being made fun of and having no friends. Flip is only at her happiest when hiding from the other girls in the chapel or wandering in the mountains. However, when wondering, Philippa sees a boy, Paul, who she has meet before leaving for boarding school. ...more
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