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Beowulf's Children

(Heorot #2)

Larry Niven,

Jerry Pournelle,

Steven Barnes (Goodreads Author)

3.77 · Rating details · 3,533 ratings · 96 reviews

A new generation is growing up on the island paradise of Camelot, ignorant of the Great Grendel Wars fought when their parents and grandparents first arrived from Earth. Setting out for the mainland, this group of young rebels feels ready to fight any grendels that get in their way. On Avalon, however, there are monsters which dwarf the ones their parents fought, and as th ...more

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Published November 15th 1996 by Tor Science Fiction (first published November 1st 1995)

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May 02, 2012 Dirk Grobbelaar rated it it was ok · review of another edition

Shelves: science-fiction, wife-books, sf-road-trip-2012

The Legacy of Heorot is one of a few novels I have read multiple times. It was also my introduction, not only to hard science fiction, but to horror. The Grendels were terrifying.

The Dragons of Heorot (also published as Beowulf's Children) is a very different kettle of fish. It gets off to a slow start. Then it hits a slow middle. Finally there is a bit of an upsurge, but then it dies a slow death. It’s not just that it’s a bad book, but it’s got too big boots to fill. The new generation of char The Legacy of Heorot is one of a few novels I have read multiple times. It was also my introduction, not only to hard science fiction, but to horror. The Grendels were terrifying.

The Dragons of Heorot (also published as Beowulf's Children) is a very different kettle of fish. It gets off to a slow start. Then it hits a slow middle. Finally there is a bit of an upsurge, but then it dies a slow death. It’s not just that it’s a bad book, but it’s got too big boots to fill. The new generation of characters left me cold, and I found myself hoping they would be killed in agonising ways. Hopefully this doesn’t classify me as mentally unstable. The father vs daughter vs brother theme is positively Shakespearian, and I didn’t buy into it.

The novel shows clearly the consequences of ignoring an obvious problem for too long. What it doesn’t do, is give a satisfactory explanation for the lack of any action. Characters discuss the problem throughout the novel but they never act on it until it’s too late. Why?
There was a character in this book that I disliked so much that I would have welcomed chapters and chapters of Grendels inflicting the most horrendous tortures on him. Alas.
I will say this about the book: it did get me emotionally involved.

It’s not all bad news. There are some things to like about the novel. The scribes, for example, are fascinating creatures. The science, of course, is solid (this is Niven after all) and the ecological exploration is interesting. The book is really more akin to a stroll across the surface of the planet, discussing what is observed and squabbling about ownership.

It's hard to recommend reading this if you have read Legacy of Heorot. Dragons of Heorot may succeed as a novel about colonisation, or as a novel about ecological science. It fails as a sequel. Despite all the book’s posturing and build up, the Grendels are nothing more than a footnote, and a sad one at that. Those magnificently terrifying creatures of Legacy have become about as scary as the neighbour’s Labrador… and that’s what ticks me off the most!
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Mar 17, 2018 Craig rated it really liked it

The main thing wrong with this book is that it's not nearly as good as the first volume, The Legacy of Heorot. The exploration and colonization themes take second place to ideas about sociology and politics that the authors want to espouse. There was a rather long period between the two, so it's fitting that this book takes up with the next generation. Their story is well told and the world is shown to have developed in a logical and interesting fashion. Niven & Co., as always, present their sci ...more

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Sep 01, 2014 Claudia rated it liked it · review of another edition

Shelves: sci-fi

Same as previous part: Hollywood movie style. But it's a light reading, full of action (although a bit improbable on occasion and has some unimportant details stretched too much).

What I liked most was the interaction between grendels and humans, idea which could have been developed more.

Anyway, it is an enjoyable story, perfect for vacation or a relaxing weekend.
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May 30, 2009 Zachary rated it really liked it · review of another edition

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I grabbed this book because I remembered it being mentioned as a highlight of Larry Niven's bibliography in another of his books. That, and the cover was kinda exciting with the gold print and all. That said, I wasn't sure I would enjoy this book too much because one of the aspects of sci-fi that I enjoy so much is the gadgets, gizmos and high tech in general. This was a book about a group of colonists sent out to a planet from Earth who have lost contact with Earth and are struggling to make th I grabbed this book because I remembered it being mentioned as a highlight of Larry Niven's bibliography in another of his books. That, and the cover was kinda exciting with the gold print and all. That said, I wasn't sure I would enjoy this book too much because one of the aspects of sci-fi that I enjoy so much is the gadgets, gizmos and high tech in general. This was a book about a group of colonists sent out to a planet from Earth who have lost contact with Earth and are struggling to make this new planet their own - in spite of some super-charged alien animals who have evolved there! I wasn't sure if that was a recipe for the type of sci-fi I enjoyed.

Well, whether or not the general recipe was to my personal taste, the execution, for the most part, was. The authors kept me intrigued from the first page. The world and the science they created and set the story in was so well-thought out and, in effect, real that I was completely caught up in it. The characters were strong, intriguing and engaging. And the plot never felt forced, all the intrigue, chaos and action unfolded very naturally, though sometimes at breakneck speed.

After I finished reading it, I found out that this was actually a sequel to another book, Legacy of Heorot. That was irritating, I had to read the books out of chronological order. Oh well - they were both good, but, in my mind, this was definitely a step better. It was just a little more complex plot-wise as well as with the characters. But I definitely recommend reading Legacy of Heorot as well - first if you can manage it!

My only hesitation in recommending it is the extremely casual attitude and atmosphere regarding sex in the colonists. All the colonists having been thoroughly screened before being accepted into the colonization program ensured that there was virtually no chance of a sexually transmitted disease in their community. That element, combined with a lack of religious restraint on relationships, created an environment where sexual partnering was done at a whim, though most eventually settled down with more "permanent" partners. But among the youth there is an extremely casual attitude towards sex, and though most specific/explicit details are left out, many encounters are described in varying amounts of detail. But, interestingly enough, there is one conversation between a young lady and her 'father figure' near the end of the book where she expresses some regret that she, as well as all her peers, has been so prolific in her sexual partnering.

So do I recommend the book? For the most part, but be aware of a decently strong permeation of a casual (i.e. unbiblical) attitude towards sex. That reason alone makes me hesitant to suggest it to anyone not yet out of high school. But it is an incredibly well-written book, with very strong science behind everything. If you want to read an excellent, stand-alone novel of science fiction, this is one I might recommend, even if you're not the biggest fan of sci-fi. ...more

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Feb 23, 2020 Sean Smart rated it did not like it · review of another edition

What a slow boring and disappointing read.

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Sep 12, 2010 Nathan Russell rated it liked it

Shelves: sci-fi, novel

Reading Beowulf's Children I found my self equal parts absorbed and frustrated. I enjoyed the setting, no, I loved the setting - a beautifully constructed world that the inhabitants were struggling to understand and live in, with lifeforms that struck the right chord between alien and believable. Where I struggled was with the protagonist's. More specifically the protagonists'ages. Here we have a community where 16 and 17 year-old's have a genuine say in the politics and governance of the commun ...more

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Sep 11, 2009 Dave rated it really liked it

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An excellent follow up to The Legacy of Heorot. I really wouldn't mind if they did another book set on Avalon, maybe one set a few generations in the future, once the colonists have really started to come to terms with Avalon's unique biodiversity.

I also like the snippets, early on, from a speech (made by one of the characters) on Mary Shelley's Frankenstein having a crypto-feminist agenda. I wonder if that speech exists in full somewhere.

All in all, a thoroughly enjoyable return to one of Niven ...more

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Apr 03, 2009 Bryan rated it really liked it

Recommends it for: SF fans

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Aug 24, 2013 Darth rated it it was ok

Shelves: niven

I was at like 2 1/2 on this, and I would usually round up not down, but something about this really rubbed me the wrong way. Maybe just a let down feeling after liking the first one so much.

It started out with lots of my LEAST favorite things in sci-fi: POLITICS.
It is a tiny group of people, light years from Earth, most of the people are under-aged, and the leadership cannot keep things in order...

A bunch of teens and barely 20-somethings run amok and cause problems, but in a very boring and pro ...more

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Aug 21, 2015 Bekibunny rated it it was ok

Suffered from the same cliched social interactions as the first one.
Not enough Grendels and world exploring, too much in-fighting and superman Aaron.
I'm a speed reader and I found myself flipping past all the human social boring stuff to get to the parts about Old Grendel.
Someone should do a fanfic edit of this and have it just be Old Grendel; she was the most interesting part of the book, and honestly, the only character I had any emotional interest in.

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Dec 03, 2010 Rusty rated it really liked it · review of another edition

Shelves: fantasy

This is an exciting read about a group of bright and highly intelligent earth explorers who settle a world they call Avalon which has creatures beyond what they ever experienced on earth. The most feared is the grendel and the survivors finally settle on an island they name Camelot where they manage to kill all the grendels. As the colony expands, the population divides into two groups - The Star Born and the original colonists. As the intergenerational conflict escalates, Cadmann finds his lead ...more

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Nov 09, 2014 Andrew rated it liked it

The first book (Legacy of Herot) I really enjoyed, for many reasons which I won't go in to here so you can imagine my eagerness to get my hands on this the sequel to it.

I will have to admit I didnt enjoy the book as much as I did the first. Yes the book did carry on chronologically from the first book in that it dealt with the colony and the generation that followed on. It also dealt with the characters some more favourably than others - which I think is why i didnt take to the book as much as I ...more

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Feb 01, 2008 Paul rated it really liked it

Beowulf's Children is the Sequel to The Legacy of Heorot, the settlers think they have figured out the planet and the next generation is ready to take over, they think, and the planet has some deadly surprises for them..... ...more

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Jul 06, 2011 A.R. Davis rated it really liked it

The sci-fi emphasizes exobiology and the attempt at a utopian human colony on the planet Avalon. The planet comes alive in the description and the characters are interesting. But, how did three separate authors blend this all together? Very good.

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Jul 28, 2012 Neil rated it really liked it · review of another edition

Shelves: action, adventure, sci-fi, finished-in-2014, horror, fiction

This is a sequel to The Legacy of Heorot and takes place about twenty years later. It moves at a good pace; it is still interesting to read and still held my attention. The character development is also well done in this book. I hated a portion of the ending, but it definitely added to the story despite being so heart-breaking. I also liked how one of the 'major characters' had some pretty impressive character development [despite coming from such an unlikely source]. There is a lot of free sex This is a sequel to The Legacy of Heorot and takes place about twenty years later. It moves at a good pace; it is still interesting to read and still held my attention. The character development is also well done in this book. I hated a portion of the ending, but it definitely added to the story despite being so heart-breaking. I also liked how one of the 'major characters' had some pretty impressive character development [despite coming from such an unlikely source]. There is a lot of free sex and sexual situations throughout the book; part of the justification is that as STDs have been 'abolished' there are no longer any sexual taboos [or any need for sexual taboos] and anything goes. It kind of reminded me of an updated 'Brave New World' scenario set on another planet. It is also a book about young people coming of age in trying to define who they are on an alien planet, of parents having to come to terms with their children growing up and supplanting them, of parents having to let go, of exploration and growth, and relationships between people.

The book has very little, if any, religion in it [other than a 'home grown' religion created by some of the second- and third-generation colonists]. It does reference religion in passing; it is done so in a very negative fashion, especially in reference to the colony's 'modern, open' view toward sexual promiscuity. I definitely do not agree with this view toward sex outside of marriage; despite their views [and occasional sprinkling of Bible verses in the chapter headings] they still discuss how these open sexual relationships have, for better or for worse, affected the colonists and their progeny. It seems to me that despite their espousing sexual freedom amongst consenting adults the authors actually make a case for monogamy and sexual abstinence.

On a side note, the edition I read was a 'first edition' and I could not believe the number of typos and mispelled words throughout the entire book. It was really bad in the first couple of chapters, but it did get better by the end of the book. Whoever the editor was should have given back their fee, considering the number of typos.

The authors did a great job expanding upon the environment introduced in the first novel. They created a fascinating planet that was interesting and dangerous at the same time. The colonists definitely had to be on their guard at all times and respect the unknown dangers the planet presented [which was easy for them to do on a regular basis]. The Grendels which featured so prominently in the first novel still have a part to play in this story; they have not yet been relegated to the dust heaps of forgotten story lines.

The colony has rapidly expanded is population to around 500 people. They identify themselves as two groups - the Earth Born and the Star Born [those born on the planet]. We learn that the Earth Born suffer from Hibernation Instability, which is caused by water in the blood freezing into crystals [especially in the brain] each time the travelers were thawed out and refrozen during their two-hundred year journey to Tau Ceti. The Star Born alternate between despising their parents and feeling sympathy for them due to HI as the two groups attempt to co-exist on Camelot [their island home conquered by the Star Born in a vicious battle with the island's original inhabitants in the first novel]. They also train up the younger generations, instilling within them the dream of living in harmony on Avalon [the name of their planet orbiting Tau Ceti].

The Star Born wish to form a colony on the mainland, exploring what they see as their birthright. The Star Born suffer from living in perpetual fear - fears of the past, fears for their children, fears that they can no longer be trusted to make decisions individually or collectively, and fears they will no longer be needed by the Star Born. Inbetween the novels, the colonists attempted to accelerate the colony's population via bottle babies, but natural childbirth soon proved to be enough to create a viable population. The Bottle Babies eventually formed their own clique in the midst of the larger clique consisting of the Star Born. In addition, the leader of the Star Born, Aaron Tragon, has instituted a cult of his own which appears to 'worship' the Grendels [the very same beasts that nearly wiped out the original colonists in the first novel]. The environment on the island is changing - the lack of Grendels is allowing species to return to the island that have been missing for years. The changes spur the Star Born's desire to explore while making the Earth Born leery of embracing the various changes in a positive light.

A mine exists on the mainland through which the colony is able to acquire much of what it needs in terms of minerals and fabricated materials; something damages the mine. Sabotage is ruled out; a team is sent over to investigate in conjunction with a camping party. The team investigating the damaged mining equipment dies a horrible death. The camping party returns to the mainland, unable to explain what happened to their family and friends. Discussions ensue and the Star Born want to return to the mainland. Some want revenge, some want to better understand their planet, some want to repair the damaged mine and find out what happened to cause the equipment to become damaged in the first place. The Earth Born do not want to move as fast as the Star Born and decide to wait. The Star Born do not find this to be amenable, so they attempt to create a fake hurricane to hide their stealing various equipment to journey to the mainland and set up the colony they had dreamed about. Two of the colony's de facto military leaders make it to the stolen dirigible and regain control of the craft. Unfortunately, one of the Star Born bottle-babies dies in the process.

Because of the death of Toshiro Tanaka and the accompanying guilt, the Star Born get what they want. They are able to form a colony on the mainland and explore as they have desired for quite some time. Everything goes great, setting the group up for the mother of all Avalon Surprises [which is a term the colonists use for whenever the planet throws something their way that causes problems and surprises them at the same time]. The Star Born expand across a large portion of the continent, exploring and taking samples and capturing specimens as they attempt to learn more about their birthright. They also face off against a coordinated attack by a group of Grendels in a fashion that is very impressive. Their defense is so coordinated and so overwhelming that it helps the Earth Born to begin to see their children in a new light - as adults and worthy of the heritage that has been unwillingly passed on to them. They did not ask to come to this planet, they did not ask to be born on this planet, but they have accepted the dream of their parents and have modified it to become their own dream.

There is some crazy character development in the book. There are various alpha members vying for control [some intentional, some not so intentional] of the Star Born. There are various couplings that continue to change as the young adults learn more about themselves and what it is that they want in life having reached adulthood. One of the leaders turns out to be evil to the core. There is also an interesting discussion about the pros and cons of bottle babies versus natural child birth. It was an interesting discussion because of how it talked about the natural cycles a woman goes through in terms of child birth and how it affects the baby in the womb and how a machine can never mimic or imitate the relationship between a woman and her unborn child. There was also another interesting discussion between a father and her daughter - they discuss the pros and cons of free sex with no entanglements and how the daughter has realizes that she wants something more than just whatever sexual experience she can have with any Tom, Dick, or Harry.

The Avalon bees were the craziest, best part of the book, and the worst, most horrific part of the book. I will leave it to the reader to discover them and how they affect the colonists.

Old One was amazing. I loved the character development Old One went through, especially considering I never saw it coming the first time I read the book. I have enjoyed it each time I have read the book; I felt, in retrospect, that it only makes sense.

The Scribes were incredible. I enjoyed reading about them.

The environment was amazing, the planet was amazing, the creatures and their interactions were amazing. The relationships between the Star Born and Earth Born as well as amongst the two groups were well-thought out and well-described. The amount of sexual promiscuity in the book was somewhat laughable, regardless of how hard the authors tried to justify it. I think the Earth Born had some of the best lines in the book, especially when they were ripping on the Star Born [especially the kaffeeklautsch from Surf's Up] in regard to their actions and their attitude[s]. Overall, I greatly enjoyed the book. ...more

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Jan 08, 2019 Neil rated it really liked it · review of another edition

Shelves: fiction, horror, sci-fi, action, adventure, end-of-the-world, mystery, finished-in-2019, thriller

I think this might be one of those books I will continue to enjoy no matter how many times I read it. It still moves at a decent pace; I still find myself wishing some events had turned out differently; the planet is still a crazy, exciting place for the colonists, and the authors have managed to instill some ‘real’ horror into the mix as well. I thought it had good character development, too, for that matter. It held my interesting until the very last page. I do wish the authors had written a t ...more

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Aug 09, 2017 Colleen rated it it was amazing

Shelves: science-fiction

The monsters in The Legacy of Heorot were bad enough. Now the colonists are on the mainland where there's a whole ecosystem adapted around grendels and the grown kids want to explore it. And there's a power struggle going on in the colony to see who leads the exploration. The first generation is too cautious and probably brain damaged from hibernation on the ship so who can really trust them. The second generation doesn't have the power, but they've got the curiosity and energy. And there are a ...more

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May 08, 2017 Charles Harrison rated it liked it · review of another edition

For a book which gripped me as much as this one did I finished it feeling somewhat underwhelmed. I think it is because it peaks too early. After the climactic confrontation around halfway through the rest of the book seems to be waiting for the social stuff to run its course and for a half decent biology explanation.
The ecosystem is amazing but it felt more like an essay than a novel in places. The interspersed Grendel bits seem a little fanciful and slow things down a lot. A wonderful bit of w ...more

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Apr 10, 2016 Todd rated it liked it

This is a vastly different book from its predecessor - not that there's anything wrong with that! But while the first book had everyone pretty much acting in believable ways, there are a number of times in this book where someone either acts wildly out of character or in a completely ridiculous manner and this seems to increase as the end nears. The main thrust of the plot and the ecology of Avalon detailed in this book is fascinating, but it wasn't enough to overcome my issues with characteriza ...more

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Jun 16, 2017 Tim Meechan rated it really liked it · review of another edition

Shelves: library, sci-fi-speculative

Somehow the first group of settlers forgot to tell the next group that they were all going to die horribly....okay that’s not completely accurate, but I am using a little sarcasm here as I felt that a second expedition would have been better prepared for the dangers than they seemed to be in this follow up to “The Legacy of Heorot”, where all hell broke loose when the colonists discovered the true nature of their local habitat.

Great concept and a fun read. The worlds, beings, and ideas of Niven ...more

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Feb 02, 2008 Erinn rated it liked it · review of another edition

Shelves: science-fiction

I found this to be an interesting read, so much so that I started trying to find the book that comes before it. However it didn't take me long to realize that the first book is out of print.

What I think is the most interesting thing about this book is that years later I still find myself thinking about some of the things that happened in this book and the color blue. ...more

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Nov 24, 2008 Nick rated it it was amazing

Shelves: science-fiction, authors_larry_niven, authors_jerry_pournelle, authors_steven_barnes

The premier, the best of the many collaborations between Niven and Pournelle with Barnes. A followup to _The Legacy of Herot_, this charts the aftermath of the first interstellar colonization as they expand. The rugged individualist, the types of protagonists that Heinlein created so well, are expanded by these authors. Strongly recommended.

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Feb 27, 2011 Tera Marie rated it really liked it

Shelves: science-fiction

Aside from some editing errors that I found distracting (misspelled words, improper word usage), this book was fantastic. A continuatiion of the story of a group who have come from Earth to settle a new planet. We now here the story of the Star Borns and how they cope with being the first generation of children in this new world and the new challenges and dangers they face.

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May 07, 2013 Israel rated it liked it

Not a terrible story by any means, but the gratuitous sex was a bit overdone. Also it is hard to believe that such educated and intelligent folk as the First would allow such actions as committed by the Second. If the Second were older the story would make more sense, but I do have a hard time seeing teenagers being able to plan such complex actions.

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Nov 15, 2013 Ben rated it liked it

Shelves: science-fiction-fantasy, c20-american-novels

A novel about the process of colonization of another planet rather than the Aliens-like sci-fi horror story the first book was. Natural threats to the colony form a background, but most of the words deal with politics, the division between the first and second generation and soap opera-type teenage sexual drama. Readable and interesting, but not the frightening thrill-ride the first book was.

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Aug 27, 2016 Pat Beard rated it really liked it

Excellent read but I just can't be enthusiastic because I didn't like the way it ended. Don't let this keep you from reading the book. The ending would likely be fine with others because it isn't a let down, or just a tie up of loose ends abruptly without logic, or any other tragic flaws that plague books. It is strictly an idiosyncratic dislike of my own. Sigh. ...more

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May 21, 2011 Wetdryvac Wetdryvac rated it liked it

Not nearly as solid as the first book in the series, reads rather as a contractual obligations book. Main flaws I found were in paired description sets timelining between, "What we arrived to see," And, "What we saw happening later," With minor inconsistencies. ...more

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Sep 06, 2011 Andreas rated it really liked it

A peaceful offworld colony is attacked by beasts. Very exciting stuff. The second book is not quite as good, but still a great read. I thoroughly enjoyed these.

Note: Beowulf’s Children was published in the UK as “The Dragons of Heorot”.

http://www.books.rosboch.net/?p=1106 ...more

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Jul 31, 2012 Brett Anningson rated it liked it

Shelves: science-fiction

This book started slow for me; and by that I mean about 2/3 of the way in it started to get interesting... then it seemed that the ending was rushed and not satisfactory... but it was still worth a read.

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May 26, 2014 Bo rated it really liked it · review of another edition

Recommends it for: Anyone who likes hard SF and characters with an agenda

It's just so hard to keep on trucking (read: establishing a foothold on an alien planet) when everything keeps on throwing rocks at you (read: most events foil even the best well laid plans).

And as always:
Tom Weiner performs sublimely. ...more

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Laurence van Cott Niven's best known work is Ringworld (Ringworld, #1) (1970), which received the Hugo, Locus, Ditmar, and Nebula awards. His work is primarily hard science fiction, using big science concepts and theoretical physics. The creation of thoroughly worked-out alien species, which are very different from humans both physically and mentally, is recognized as one of Niven's main strengths ...more