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The Hell You Say

(The Adrien English Mysteries #3)

4.20  ·  Rating details ·  5,831 ratings  ·  520 reviews
After bookstore clerk Angus flees following terrifying death threats, owner Adrien must contend with a mysterious Satanic cult, a hot and handsome university professor, and his on-again/off-again relationship with closeted LAPD Homicide Detective Jake Riordan.
Paperback, 232 pages
Published March 6th 2006 by iUniverse
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Heather K (dentist in my spare time)

Dear Jake Riordan,

You are a diiiiiiickkkkk with a capital "D"

Adrien= doormat who accepts Jake's $hit and doesn't make a stink about it
Jake= selfish asshole
Me= livid that I give a crap, livid that I'm addicted to this infuriating series!

I'm sorry but this is not a romance series. This is a glimpse inside an abusive, dissatisfying relationship that serves as the evil background for the fascinating mystery writing.

I'm most concerned about (view spoiler)
Jan 12, 2013 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: josh-lanyon, m-m
Review completed January 23, 2013

"This symbol is a seal. A personal signature representing a demon. A high-ranking demon."
I certainly didn't want any low-ranked demons loitering about the place. "So…what does that mean? I've been cursed?"

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I assured him all was cool, although I couldn't help wondering: If God works in mysterious ways, why shouldn't the Devil seek temporary employment in a mystery bookstore?

The Hell You Say is the third book in the Adrien English series. Our hero, Adrien Eng
My life will never be the same
'Cause deeply closeted cop, you came and changed
The way I walk, the way I talk
I cannot explain the things I feel for you
But homophobic Jake, you know it's true

At least that was how it was SUPPOSED to go. The Hell You Say? What The Hell, you mean. Seriously, what the hell Detective Jake Riordan?!

I thought I would just lie down on the sofa this Sunday - since Holland is completely snowed in anyway - with a gigantic mug of hot chocolate and indulge in Adrien and Jake,
Rosa, really
Sep 22, 2013 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: Everybody
Recommended to Rosa, really by: Everybody

Jake Riordan: Total heartbreaker;
Source of considerable grief & distress;
But a more complex person than the douchebag I thought he’d be;
i.e. I might not have to punch him in the larynx after all.

(Uh, please do not mistake the above for my awkward attempt at poetry.)

(view spoiler)
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Re-read 8/8/17 and many other times :P

Chances are if you are reading this review, you have already read book 1 and 2. If you haven't go back !! You need to start with the first book and believe me....these books are worth the read, don't let this review scare you off :P

That said....this book pissed me off so freaking bad ..

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I hate Jake so very very much !!!

I have known that Jake is deep deep into the closet since book 1. I also know that he is a coward and a cheat. I hated him for all of this, bu
Still a 5 star for me

Chris Patton was born to narrate this series. Love!Love! his Voice.


"I realized that he wanted me to get angry, that anger would make it easier, and I didn't want to make it easier. He didn't deserve to have it made easy." Tell him Adrien.

Adrien is the best amateur sleuth, with an amazing sense of humor.

JL's writing is great, i enjoyed the flow as usual and the mystery.

Jake! Jake! damn this guy gets on my last nerve but i still like him because he is Adrien's 'not official
My thoughts on Jake:

My thoughts on Adrien:

And yet I'm hooked. It's like a train wreck. I just can't look away. Yes, they're highly dysfunctional and should probably run as far away from each other as possible (especially Adrian, because fuck Jake). But I want to see exactly how messed up they can get.

Am I delighting in a fictional character's misery? Probably.

Also, their adventures are entertaining. While I thought that there were a few too many characters and potential suspects in 'The Hell Yo
Aug 25, 2011 rated it liked it
Jake is a self serving, closeted bastard who treats Adrian like shit and then has the nerve to put his hands on him and threaten him? This guy has absolutely no redeeming qualities. None. Who told me to read this series again? to read book four...I am such a sucker for punishment.

New name for this book titled: Lanyon wants to set you on a murderous, rampaging path in life.

What is this book? What is this? How do I rate this? I was torn between 1 (because of rage) and 5 (because of emotions) but I gave myself some time to cool my jets and here I am... at a comfortable 4.
I almost threw my iPad, and since my iPad is like a child to me, I'll admit I had some anger issues reading this book.

So, there's lots of spoilers and swearing below this point. Danger, danger.

First off, I
Written May 28, 2014

4 Stars - Another interesting nicely solved mystery but also some heartbreaking sad moments

Book #3

I'm an impatient reader these days and just couldn't wait to continue to read (listening to) the further adventures for our dear hero, Adrien English. ~ I really liked the second part
A Dangerous Thing (4.3 stars), and at last started Adrien & Jack's love story in tiny small small steps.

Will it be more steamy nice moments and a lovely nice development on their way (hopefully)
Aug 18, 2018 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: lgbtq
Well, no wonder at the emotional outcry this book caused!

I am happily joining the club who wants to see Jake hanged, drawn and quartered alive. What the heck is going on with him? To hurt Adrien again and again to then tell him in the end that he knew what to expect just made me fume.

And Adrien? Whatever Jake’s throwing at him, he simply continues as if nothing happened. Or he says ‘okay’. That hurt even more. I wanted Adrien to call Jake out on his bullshit and get to the bottom of their feel8n
May 27, 2011 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: suspense, glbt-gay
Jake can try... Try and try... Something will always betray his "I'm not gay" fake life

I love the book, hate Jake, and pity Adrien... I don't thing I should say more. Why? I must write a quick review. I can't wait to read more! Already starting Death of a Pirate King (Adrien English Mystery, #4) by Josh Lanyon


5 stars
This is the best installment in the series so far. The writing was, as always, excellent, the mystery was solid, the story paced, the characterisation strong. Just the fact that I didn't end up hating Jake's guts even though he behaved like a dbag almost throughout this book speaks volumes about the author's skill. He managed to make me understand Jake's side, his (re)actions, his hang-ups. He made Jake's douchebaggery bearable. And for that alone he deserves my five stars.
Jul 10, 2015 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Could it be Satan...

Christmastime in LA with Adrien playing his own Cloak and Dagger. When dead bodies start appearing bearing the markings of ritual sacrifice and everyone starts acting squirrelly, Adrien is thrust into the case.

There's a slew of personal upheaval as every segment of Adrien's life gets put through the ringer simultaneously, from work to family to love. This is pretty angsty and readers get another ride on the Adrien/Jake rollercoaster, which really isn't fun. You can't tell so
Jake Riordan is a stinking bastard.

Yep. That's my review.
Sep 29, 2016 rated it it was amazing
Shelves: favorites
That's how I feel after reading Adrien's third adventure.

The story is just the right mix of suspenseful and creepy. A Satanic cult is out to kill people as human sacrifices and Adrien (no surprise there) manages to draw the cult's attention to himself and the people around him.

'Extremely closeted' asshole cop Jake is in charge of the case and does his best to hide any connection Adrien has to the case - and more importantly to him.

Despite the awesome plot and many quirky characters, I was l
Re-read in October 2018.

Oh yeah! This goes directly into my favorites shelf.
I'm so terribly sorry for Adrien. I hope in the next part of this series it will improve for him. At least he kept his dry humor. And Jake ... I'd like to shoot him on the moon. Damn idiot.

Audio Re-Read

So yeah. Well. Hmmm...It seems that sometimes time changes how we feel or perceive a book. Not in this case. I feel the same in 2018 as I did in 2014. Actually no, I may be more angry now. I definitely am.

I know I need to rate this high but part of me really, really doesn't want to because I kind of hate it.

I am so fucking pissed off. I hate Jake. I don't like Guy and as much as I truly love Adrien I just can't with him right now. I just can't. Worse, I know what is going to happen
Jenni Lea
Sep 08, 2013 rated it really liked it

So... freaking... PISSED!!!!!!!

Off to read the next one. Lets just see how he plans to get back in my good graces. Hah! Like THAT will ever happen! Stupid freaking closeted assholes are stupid! *angry face*
Lanyon’s put a curse on me! It would seem I like this sleuthing thing.

These murder mystery stories are NOT my thing. Sure, I like all the intrigue and deducing as a side plot but this series is way too heavy on the whodunit element, and yet I find myself trapped and spellbound devouring every word. Yep, totally cursed I tell you!

There is so much going on here: kidnapping, satanic cults, multiple murder investigation, a lesson in the occult, Wiccan craft, sex magic, candle magic and demonology on
Jul 09, 2012 rated it it was amazing
”It was harder to avoid demons in dreams—especially when they were your own.”

It is official Adrien has driven me to drink! The Hell You Say, book three in the Adrien English Mystery series filled my heart and soul with such longing, sadness, and hollowed out hope. Not sure I’ll be able to convey the power of this ache in my chest, but I have never wanted to hug a fictional character more in my life.

It’s Christmas time, which for Adrien English means garland, twinkling lights, and of course—dead
3rd Reread (audio) - 10/23/16

4.5 stars

***Audio edition re-read!***

I'm bumping this another half star for the perfection that is the narration by Chris Patton. Perfection I tell you!


The Hell You Say is the third -- and possibly my favorite -- installment of the Adrien English Mysteries. I adore Adrien’s voice in these books but if he doesn’t stop sticking his nose where it doesn’t belong the phrase "curiosity killed the cat" is g
Lilia Ford
Nov 04, 2012 rated it it was amazing
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Dec 17, 2013 rated it really liked it
Shelves: favourites
4.5 stars

Might be spoilerish.

Josh Lanyon is the master of the unsaid word. The Italians have a thing called 'Vedo Non Vedo' which translates in something like Seeing, Not Seeing, and it conveys the message that a partial nude with strategically placed clothing engages more the mind and imagination. If the imagination needs to work more, there is more engagement on behalf of the participant. Lanyon is the master of this in book writing. The achy desperation conveyed so subtly and quietly in this
3,5 stars

The good news:

There are two great things in The Hell You Say- the writing and Adrien English. (view spoiler)

And the fact that I'm not able to put this series aside and pick something different for a change speaks for itself.

Though I didn't like it as much as I like the first two books.

And there are some simple explanations for it:

There was more mystery than I can tolerate, and there was not enough romance here for my taste. The healthy balance between mystery and l
Sep 28, 2011 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
The Hell you Say is the third book in the Adrien English Mysteries and I can say I now fully understand the obsession some people seem to have with this series.
Not that I didn't like the first two books, I did. But this one I LOVED!

I love Josh Lanyon's writing. It's witty and engaging. It evokes emotion without being overly dramatic. Adrien doesn't spell out his feelings or his heart ache for the reader. The angst, the pain, the loneliness... it's there, but it isn't overdrawn. And yet it's st
Jan 30, 2008 added it  ·  (Review from the author)  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: my-own-work
Third in the Adrien English series. Demons, death threats and Christmas shopping, oh my!
Jan 22, 2013 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
The series just gets better as it progresses, I have a real fondness for these two and get deeply pulled into their highly dysfunctional relationship! Jake and Adrien hit rocky ground and their future is shaky but you just know that there's a lot more to come between them. Another complex plot, quirky characters, Adriens unique snark and Jakes brooding! Hubble , bubble , toil and trouble... Love these books. Even better a second time around.
Rating 4.5 stars

This series hurts me. It hurts me and I love it for that fact. See, I am a self-proclaimed angst whore and I live for stories like this. A few months back, I wasn’t sure I was going to read this series even though I wanted to. The reaction it gets from readers is intense but I had to see for myself and well…

So this takes place a few months after book two ends. Adrien and Jake are doing okay in their one foot – meaning Jake – in the closet relationship. I know, I KNOW I should hat
Aug 22, 2015 rated it it was amazing
I cannot believe I'm rating this five stars. But I am. I got pissed off, sad, then enjoyed some witty, snarky Adrien remarks. And then got pissed off again.

And yes. Ended the book royally pissed off.

I hate what Jake did to Adrien, but I know there is way more to him that what meets the eye. So I am trying very hard to understand him, even if I know I don't have all the cards to read him right, yet. I hate that Adrien just... Lets Jake do his Jake thing... But when you really think about it, doe
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“A pause followed my greeting. Then “We’re watching you ” whispered the voice on the other end.
“Yeah? Did you see what I did with my keys? ”
Silence. Then dial tone.
These younger demons. So easily discouraged.”
“I know that asshole you were with in college --”
“Can we leave that asshole out of it?”
Please, gentlemen, one asshole at a time.”
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