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Magic Burns

(Kate Daniels #2)

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4.33  ·  Rating details ·  67,470 ratings  ·  3,373 reviews
As a mercenary who cleans up the mess after magic has gone wrong, Kate Daniels has seen her share of hazards. Normally, waves of paranormal energy flow across Atlanta like a tide. But once every seven years, a flare comes, a time when magic runs rampant. Now Kate's going to have to deal with problems on a much bigger scale.
Paperback, 260 pages
Published March 11th 2010 by Gollanz (first published April 1st 2008)
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Anzu The Great Destroyer

Hmmm I wonder what this Magic Burns book will be about


What?? I mean.. What?? This can’t be right


Why isn’t she being stupid?? Wha- How???


She’s going to fuck up


Any second now


Aaaaany second now
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This book is perfect!!

I mean, amIrite? AM-I-RITE???

One thing I love about Ilona Andrews is the fact that she didn’t make Kate a sappy character. Not once did she have a "love" thought about any of the hot dudes in the book. Not once. Sure, she thinks about banging them but that’s the normal thing to do. No unnecessary crap about love at first sight a
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Jessica ❁ ➳ Silverbow ➳ ❁ Rabid Reads-no-more
5/6/18: I hope that when the Andrews write their Julie and Derek spinoff that one of the books takes place during another flare and Red shows up. Then I want for Julie and/or Derek to break several of his bones. Big important ones. Like a femur and his pelvis. Yeah.

4.5 stars

After the trial by fire world-building of MAGIC BITES, any leftover questions are quickly answered in KATE DANIELS #2 by virtue of the shifts from magic to tech and tech to magic occurring with alarming frequency as a result of one of this b
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✘✘ Sarah ✘✘ (former Nefarious Breeder of Murderous Crustaceans)
🐈 The Adventures Of A Brave Little Kitty Buddy Rerererereread (TAOABLKBR™) with the IA Addicts 🐈

And the moral of this particular rererererereread is: “Welcome home. I’m glad you made it. There is coffee in the kitchen for you.” =



And the other moral of this particular rererererereread is: sniffing people to determine their competence, it’s a Teenage Werewolf Sidekick Thing (TWST™). Ha.

👋 Until next time and stuff.

🐈 The Adventures Of A Brave Little Kitty Buddy Rerererereread (TAOABLKBR™) with the IA Addicts 🐈

And the moral of this particular rererererereread is: “Welcome home. I’m glad you made it. There is coffee in the kitchen for you.” =



And the other moral of this particular rererererereread is: sniffing people to determine their competence, it’s a Teenage Werewolf Sidekick Thing (TWST™). Ha.

👋 Until next time and stuff.



[November 2017]

The Grand IAA™ KD Buddy Rerererereread Extravaganza (GIAAKDBRE™), aka the yellow brick road to Magic Triumphs

Presenting Episode 2, or How Kate Daniels Learned Being a Toy Mouse with Raging Hormones isn't as Easy as Chopping People into Tiny Little Pieces.

» And the moral of this particular rererereread is: Psych.

» And the other moral of this particular rererereread is: someone call Desandra ASAP! Bran wants to show her his pork sword!

» And the other, other moral of this particular rererereread is: ain't nuthin' like the moral compass of a teenage werewolf.

» And the other, other, other moral of this particular rererereread is: evil tentacles + undead mermaids + sea demons with ugly as fish fish eyes = my shrimpy children and my little self feel right at home and stuff. It's positively enchanting.

Now let's get groovin'.





[May 2016]

KD is the Cure to All of Life's Problems Buddy Read (KDitCtAoLPBR™) with my dear wife Ange, and the poor IAA souls who have fallen into our deathly KD Surprise Reread Trap (KSRT™).

Original rating: 5 stars
Rating after xxxxxx rereads: there aren't enough stars in the sky. That's the Combined Magical and Miraculous Ilona Andrews-Kate Daniels Effect (CMaMIAKDE™).

» And the moral of this particular rererereread is: I want soup. Bye now.

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[Original review]

☆☆☆ Post-Shift Productions proudly present ☆☆☆
Just Another Day in the Life of Kate Daniels



2.00 a.m.: enjoying a good night's sleep. Phone rings. Jim here! Rise and shine Kate! Time to go kill things! Here we go again.
3.00 a.m.: how to carry a dead, homicidal pyromaniac and a salamander in an enchanted sphere at the same time? Easy. Decapitation will do the trick every time.
4.00 a.m.: Spend hours at the Guild filling in paperwork. State the suspect’s intent as perceived by you: intended to burn down the city due to being a complete crackpot. There, that should do it.
8.00 a.m.: visit from Curran's significant other. She needs a personal favour. This is going to be one of those days is it?
8.30 a.m.: visit from your teenage werewolf sidekick aka Boy Wonder. Get lectured about your would have been boyfriend. Learn about a supernaturally fast sniper who goes poof. The Pack needs your help. His Furry Highness requires your presence. It's definitely one of those days.



9.00 a.m.: oh look! A sexy man in a kilt! He teleports! He regenarates! He talks zippers! Your hormones are overloading! You need to get laid.
9.30 a.m.: meet Julie. Her mom disappeared. Go look for her. Find an oversized metal hedgehog instead. Oh was that your dog, you scumbag? So sorry about that. Lesson #1: pissing Kate Daniels off may result in permanent damage to your freaky puppy.
10.00 a.m.: take Julie home. Oh look, a friendly visitor: female creature, long hair, claws, toxic goo. Choke on your hair, you piece of crap. Oh look, another one! Get out of my house, you crazy bitch. Oh look, these lovely ladies brought a hooded friend along: eyes of a squid, green tentacles, hovers. Cool. Amehe. Obey you sonofabitch. Oops. Blackout time.
10.30 a.m.: rescued by His Furriness. Oh, the irony. You’re a fucking mess and you look like shit. Thanks Your Majesty, I try.



11.00 a.m.: at the Pack's Southeast office. Trying to recover. The Beast Lord himself pays you a visit. Hands you a bowl of soup. Discusses your underwear choices (no, you do not have barbed wire and a steal chain on your panties). Mayday mayday.
11.30 a.m.: feeling much better. Go outside to get some fresh air. Curran flexing. Your hormones overloading. Again. You really need to get laid.
12.00 p.m.: hey, Bran The Hero is back! Bust his nose again. Love that bow on your panties dove. Hit him with a chair. Get kissed. The Beast Lord is not pleased.
12.30 p.m.: go on a field trip with Boy Wonder and Ghastek The Whole Puncher. End up dancing with a very naked, Roman statue-like Saiman in the snow. Feel something getting hard down there. What did you ever do to anybody?



1.00 p.m.: head off to meet the Oracle. Meet a Medusa impersonator. Sigh. Couldn't you run into a colony of fluffy bunnies for a change?
1.30 p.m.: enter a living, giant tortoise through its mouth. This is getting too weird, even for you.
2.00 p.m.: finally time to sit down and grab a bite to eat. Chicken wings. Mmmm, pure bliss. Wait. What's that? Only a gang of poisonous, maniacal reeves and their freakish shepherd. Oh, good. They brought a friend along, too. Kate, meet Bubba Ugad, the Great Crow's Hammer. You're kidding right? Please tell me you're kidding.
2.30 p.m.: hey Bubba, nice tattoos you have there! Whoa, word of power alert! Osanda. Kneel. Cut, cut, cut. Slice, slice, slice. Buh bye Bubba.
3.00 p.m.: escape the city to pay the hyena pack a visit. Lovely brood of social deviants with a penchant for hysterical laughter and kinky sex. Yay.



3.30 p.m.: have an enlightening conversation with Aunt B about big furry cats and soup. You need a drink.
4.00 p.m.: head to the Keep. Curran + magic flare = Fabio hair and powder keg with a short fuse. Play cat and mouse. Osanda, your Furry Highness. Not working? Wedding, your Furry Highness. Ha! Got you there!
4.30 p.m.: well isn't that Mr Hey Dove again?! Oops, it looks like he just stole the survey maps again. Err, is that thunder you hear? No, just His Furriness roaring.



5.00 p.m.: shifters party time. Claws out. Rip some flesh. Kick some ass. Fun times. Meet a new friend: horse skull, double row of oversized teeth, Neanderthall eyebrows, cartilage breaking through skin. Lovely look you have there.
5.30 p.m.: His Fussiness plans to hog-tie you, gag you and have 3 shifters sit on you. Kinky.
6.00 p.m.: emulate daddy dearest and lead the furry army into battle. No-Code day for the Pack. Yay! Blood and gore await! Kneel, you undead mermaid bitches. Slice, slice, slice. Cut, cut, cut. Kill, kill, kill. Best party ever.
6.30 p.m.: Ouch, that really hurt. Die a little. Oh look, a big cat! Gotta get to Julie. Oh Bran.
7.00 p.m.: home at last. The door is open. Strange. The light is on. Weird. Smells like coffee. What the hell? Curran. The Princess Bride. As you wish. Psych.




· Book 1: Magic Bites ★★★★★
· Book 3: Magic Strikes ★★★★★
· Book 4: Magic Bleeds ★★★★★
· Book 5: Magic Slays ★★★★★
· Book 6: Magic Rises ★★★★★
· Book 7: Magic Breaks ★★★★★
· Book 8: Magic Shifts ★★★★★
· Book 9: Magic Binds ★★★★★
· Book 10: Magic Triumphs ★★★★
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Sophia Triad
Sexually frustrated Kate Daniels is being pursued by every interesting male creature in this book:

a) Saiman (With a magic store body, a Polymorph i.e. he changes human forms):
“Can you dance? Dance with me Kate!”,
“Stay with me. It will be fun.”


b) Ghastec (One of the People, a Master of the Dead i.e. he creates vampires)
“A pleasure to see you, as always”,
“You are in an excellent physical shape and you are well proportioned.”


c) Bran (A goddess' hound, a scoundrel, a thief, a brigand, a human pr/>
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Tadiana ✩Night Owl☽
April 2018 update: After holding out for two years, I finally renewed my $70 nonresident library card. I was so stoked when I found that the library now has the entire Kate Daniels series! I brought The. Entire. Series. home with me, and I’m starting with this one and working my way through the series, since there are a few I’ve never read. Cheer me on!

This second book in the Kate Daniels series is a clear improvement over the first one, with a tighter and more memorable plot. A (hot
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Rachel Reads Ravenously
Reread 6/2018

4.5 "I'm really starting to love this series" stars

“You don't cause problems. You cause catastrophes.”

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While investigating a mysterious bowman who killed her mark, mercenary Kate Daniels finds herself in the custody of a pre-teen girl. Turns out the young street girl has some magical powers, the kind of powers that 1 in 10,000 people get and there are creatures coming after her. Kate must go to the last person she wants help from, Curran, and together they fight to help th
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carol.
Jul 07, 2010 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Recommends it for: everyone who likes fantasy and kick-butt women
I've procrastinated forever in writing this review. Magic Burns is one of my frequent re-reads, and I'm not sure I can do it justice.

What keeps drawing me back? An interesting heroine that is confident, skilled in her field, funny, occasionally lonely, caring despite herself and lives according to an ethical code? Action that builds from the somewhat ridiculous (a salamander pyromaniac) to the tragic (spikey dogs) to epic (a battle between shapeshifters and gods)? Relationship building that giv
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Alienor ✘ French Frowner ✘


3.5 stars ← See that .5 stars? It means that I liked Magic Burns more that Magic Bites. WOOT!



RATING CLARIFICATIONS

✘ It does not mean that I wouldn't volunteer as tribute for slapping Curran in his face. I would, because alpha-males have just that little *something* that makes me want to snarl (even if, to be fair, he's not the worst but far from it). To each their owns, okay? Even Barrons never won me. That asshole (I know, I know, *GASP* *But BARRONS!* /SNARL/). Kate's pretty amazing, though. I ship her.

✘ It does not mean that I'
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Jilly
Rereading this with the lovelies at the Ilona Andrews Addicts group.



Here's my original review from a year ago:

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"Rambo called, he wants his bandana back."
"This Rambo, he a friend of yours?"
"Who's Rambo?" Julie asked.
If a cultural reference flies over a man's head, does it make a sound if nobody else gets it?

rambo photo: rambo 1171199-Rambo-Penticton.jpg
(This is Rambo, for all of you youngsters)

I'm still loving Kate. As a matter of fact, I like her better in this book than the first one. She is more human, but still hilarious and kickass at the same time.

In this book, we get all of these strange cago:
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 Danielle The Book Huntress (Back to the Books)
Kate Daniels, could you be more awesome? Nope. This book rocked my world! I loved the first book, but I loved this one even more. Kate Daniels is such a cool heroine. She's not only kickbutt, independent, and snarky, but she's utterly likeable. She's down to earth, and one of those heroines I think a guy or a girl could get along with equally well. I like her quick thinking and her ability to get out of some pretty nasty spots. And her willingness to do the right thing, even at personal cost to ...more
Robin (Bridge Four)
Kate Daniels Buddy Read/Reread on May 11 with the gang at Ilona Andrews Addicts (IAA)

4.5 Stars bumped up a half star from first read

Revisited review after Re-read on Jun 30, 2014


Ilona Andrews is an author I think I can re-read time and time again. I liked this book even more the second time around. The magic and mythology drew me in and the plot and story were even better the second time around.

I got excited when new characters, which will be around throughout the series, were introduced and the chemistry building and the slow burn(IAA)
4.5
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Julio Genao
Mar 24, 2014 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Recommended to Julio by: MostlyDelores
wheeee!

no poets, these two—sometimes the prose reminded me of chunk from the goonies inquiring about the possibility of some rocky road—but fuck my life can they write a Finerr Batturr or what, amirite?

ladies? can I get an amen?

*icy, shunning silence*

no? too busy drooling over curran?

s'okay.

*gaze darkens lustily*

...me too.
Katerina
Nov 14, 2015 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
“This was hell and I was its fury.”

Celtic mythology,witch covens,lots of ass kicking and HOT shapeshifters?


Kate Daniels is worried.A powerful wave of magic known as the flare is going to strike Atlanta and make possible for malevolent deities to walk among the humans,spreading chaos and death,and somehow in the center of the crisis is the street urchin Kate's looking after.And the world's gone mad.
“I needed to find Julie,find her mom,convincemad.
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Helen 2.0
Jun 28, 2017 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Better than the first book! Curran is man-candy supreme.
Elise ✘ a.k.a Ryder's Pet ✘
Fifth re-read: 16.07.19
I love Curran. The end.
New Rating: 3.5 stars

Fourth re-read: 27.04.17
I really like the slow burn between Kate and Curran, however, damn, I just want to skip all the in between... I really do love Curran.

Third re-read: 16.09.16
I still like it. I don't love it, but it's damn well close. Curran still remains oclass="gr-hostedUserImg">
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Deborah Obida
Its as good as the first one. The only problem I have with this book is that the first 50 pages or so was so damn slow, I had to force myself through it. After that the rest was a piece of cake.

World building✅
Plot✅
Writing ✅
Characters✅
Magic system ✅

This book has it all.
If you don't know before, know now, am a sucker for good magic system and characters.
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Simona Bartolotta
3.5

"Welcome home. I'm glad you made it. There is coffee in the kitchen for you."


I think that a fair number of my neurons just melted.

No time for the review, must jump on book three. And at any rate, what I have to say is exactly what I said in my review of Magic Bites, less the 'introductory book' issue (though the world-building can still get better, in my opinion), plus the 'So Curran will get hotter from book to book, uh? Because my system can sustain just as much oestro
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Melissa (Ever So Mela)
I just realized the last 40% always saves these books for me.


I had the same problem with this one as I did with the previous Kate Daniels.
It's slow
And sadly, sometimes glacially slow, more towards the beginning with a crescendo in the middle. But thank the heavens this ending rocked millions over the last one.


I do have to say that if they had explained the world in the last book like they did here, I would've rated it a lot higher.

Kate, at least for me, just got better by the second. She's still kick ass-
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Karlyflower *The Vampire Ninja, Luminescent Monster & Wendigo Nerd Goddess of Canada (according to The Hulk)*
Buddy-read with the amazetastic Casey to commence July 20th..... because I can't seem to read anything I am supposed to right now!



Review, such as it were....



A Kraft Dinner review of
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Navessa
Mar 29, 2013 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
I knew by page 2 that I would love this book. Here's why:

"Alright Jeremy. Give me the salamander and I won't cut your head off."

When I first started this series I was definitely holding myself back a little from letting myself love it. First of all I'd been traumatized by a past relationship with a series (Anita! Why!?). Secondly this series reminded me of the one that broke my heart. But not anymore!

I was so entertained while reading this book that my earlier annoyance at the whole magic vs tech weiwhy:
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Maria V. Snyder
Jul 18, 2015 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Yes - I'm hooked on the Kate Daniels series. For now. Don't know how many books I'll read before I lose interest if I even do. I stuck with Ilona Andrews Edge series to the end (need more!) and enjoyed the spin-off novel of Gunmetal Magic with Kate's best friend so I'm thinking I'm in for the long haul. Good thing I have six novels left to read :).
Cyndi
Sep 19, 2017 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
I finished this last night just before sleeping, so of course Kate followed me into my dreams.
The last battle was so visual and I kept seeing her running in with both swords flying. I mean, that was awesome!
She is an excellent character! Although she's powerful and brave she is also lonely and frightened. In this book she goes from one problem to the next like a fairy tale. Almost every person she encounters wants her to complete a task before they will help her. All the while she has this h
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Jaela
Jul 11, 2014 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
First read July 2014
Second read May 2016


I liked this more than the first one. We get to see the real Kate, all her aspirations and insecurities. She broke my heart so many times. Everyone around her dies. She's so alone.

"You have the Pack. You're surrounded by people who would fall over themselves for the pleasure of your company. I have no one. My parents are dead, my entire family is gone. I have no friends. Except Jim, and that's more of a working relationship than anything else. I have no lover. I can't even havealone.
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Sh3lly


This was my second time reading this and I am absolutely keeping my original rating. FIVE STARS! I would add 50 stars if I could. It was way better the second time around! (And I can't often say that with books I've read more than once.)

It was kind of like reading it for the first time, I had forgotten so much. Like how much Kate and Curran's tension and chemistry SIZZLED. How did I miss this before. In this book, they are right about here:



LOL But
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Ginger
Mar 02, 2019 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: a-z-challenge, 2019
4 STARS!!

Magic Burns is the 2nd book in the Kate Daniels urban fantasy series. I really liked this much more then the 1st book in the series. It just goes to show that it pays to stick with a series until you have an idea of the world building and characters. Magic Burns was better written and the characters had better dialogue and attitude.
The magic in this is also better understood and I loved all the references to Celt goddesses and gods along with the Druid information. Fun stuff to read!
(view spoiler) I loved it.

By the way, have I said that I LOVE Kate?!! It really pays to love the main character and in this 2nd book, Magic Burns made me fall in love with her. She's tough, a badass, holds her own against the alpha men and is still funny!

I'm definitely continuing with the series because I need to find out who (view spoiler)
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Evgeny
Aug 14, 2014 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: fantasy
Buddy read with Armina, Eilonwy, and Asya.

Kate Daniels' occasional partner and shape-shifter Jim asks her to help him apprehend a mad arsonist. They got him, but a mysterious sniper kills the culprit right in front of their eyes. Kate starts looking for the guy and becomes tangled with a teen girl looking for her missing mom, bad-ass monsters from Celtic mythology coming to life, and magic flares which make shape-shifters struggle to keep their bestial part in check. Non-stop action ensures.

I f
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Toni
Feb 12, 2019 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: fantasy, 2019
In this second book of the series, Kate is still tough, brave, unpretentious, sassy, humane and loyal. Can you tell that she is my current favourite paranormal heroine? :-)
I loved the world building in the first book, where we got introduced to this strange reality where technology and magic alternate. Here we see that magic is gaining ground and sooner or later all vestiges of our world ( e.g. cars) will disappear. Magic flows and pulsates through the book and all the supernatural creatur
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Sarah
1st read - June 2013
2nd read - May 2015
3rd read - May 2016
4th read - November 2017
5th read - July 2018
6th read - June 2019

Original Review

I had forgotten how much I enjoyed Magic Bites until my friends encouraged me to join them on a group read of this series and I re-read it recently. Now I can't for the life of me figure out why I never carried on reading the series! Magic Burns had everything I loved about Magic Bites and then some, you have more of kick ass Kate, more action, more world building, fantastic character development and most i/>Original/>6th/>5th/>4th/>3rd/>2nd
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Bradley
Surprisingly entertaining and it feels like a serious step-up from the first book.

I mean, witchy adventures and seven-year solar-magical catastrophes aside, who doesn't love a battle between gods? Oh, Morrigan! I've seen you in other series, how beautiful to see and you again!

I liked the mystery and the movements through the UF, and now that we're in the middle of character development, rather than just the opening sequences, I'm enjoying the play between Curran and Kate. Nothing is
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✘✘ Sarah ✘✘ (former Nefarious Breeder of Murderous Crustaceans)
First reread November 2014

Kate Daniels, the hummingbird on crack. I rest my case.

Original review





Book 1: Magic Bites ★★★★★
Book 3: Magic Strikes ★★★★★
Book 4: Magic Bleeds ★★★★★
Book 5: Magic Slays ★★★★★
Book 6: Magic Rises ★★★★★
Book 7: Magic Breaks ★★★★★
Book 8: Magic Shifts ★★★★★
Book 9: Magic Binds ★★★★★
Book 10: Magic Triumphs ★★★★
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"What are you doing?" Ghastek asked.
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“Not only will you sleep with me, but you will say 'please.'"
I stared at him, shocked.
The smile widened. "You will say 'please' before and 'thank you' after."
Nervous laughter bubbled up. "You've gone insane. All that peroxide in your hair finally did your brain in, Goldilocks.”
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