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Death

Todd May

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The fact that we will die, and that our death can come at any time, pervades the entirety of our living. There are many ways to think about and deal with death. Among those ways, however, a good number of them are attempts to escape its grip. In this book, Todd May seeks to confront death in its power. He considers the possibility that our mortal deaths are the end of us, ...more

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Jun 04, 2015 Ahmad Sharabiani rated it really liked it

Shelves: philosophy, 21th-century, non-fiction, psychology

Death, Todd May

Death (2008). Acumen Publishing.

In this book, Todd May seeks to confront death in its power. He considers the possibility that our mortal deaths are the end of us, and asks what this might mean for our living.

What lessons can we draw from our mortality? And how might we live as creatures who die, and who know we are going to die?

Contents: 1 - Our dealings with death, 2 - Death and immortality, 3 - Living with death.

تاریخ نخستین خوانش: تاریخ نخستین خوانش: روز پانزدهم ماه می سال 2 Death, Todd May

Death (2008). Acumen Publishing.

In this book, Todd May seeks to confront death in its power. He considers the possibility that our mortal deaths are the end of us, and asks what this might mean for our living.

What lessons can we draw from our mortality? And how might we live as creatures who die, and who know we are going to die?

Contents: 1 - Our dealings with death, 2 - Death and immortality, 3 - Living with death.

تاریخ نخستین خوانش: تاریخ نخستین خوانش: روز پانزدهم ماه می سال 2015 میلادی

عنوان: مرگ؛ نویسنده: تاد می؛ مترجم: رضا علیزاده؛ تهران، نشر گمان؛ 1393، در 198ص؛ فروست مجموعه ی تجربه و هنر زندگی، کتاب شش؛ شابک 9786009407224؛ چاپ سوم و چهارم 1394؛ چاپ پنجم 1396؛ موضوع مرگ - از نویسندگان امریکایی - سده 21م

ششمین مجلد از: مجموعه ی «تجربه و هنر زندگی»، به پرسشهایی، درباره ی تاثیر مرگ بر ذهن، و روح بشر، پرداخته است، و سرفصل‌هایش «کنار آمدن با مرگ»، «مرگ و نامیرایی»، «زیستن با مرگ»، و در پایان نیز مطالبی برای بررسی بیشتر را طرح کرده است

ماجرا از آنجا آغاز میشود، هواپیمایی که «تاد می» نیز، از مسافران آن بوده، در آستانه ی فرود، بدون هشدار پیشین، برای دقایقی، و بسیار ناگهانی، مسیرش را دیگر میکند، و اینکار، هراس را در مسافران، از جمله در نویسنده، بیدار میکند، و در پی آن اندیشیدن به مرگ، و اهمیت آن، ذهن «تاد می» را، که باوری به زندگی دیگر نیز ندارد، درگیر خویش میکند و ....؛

نقل نمونه بخشی از شرح کتاب: «ساده‌ ترین و معمولی‌ترین راه رها شدن از کابوس مرگ، فکر نکردن به آن است؛ شبیه آن غژغژ ضعیفی است، که گاهی از ماشین خود می‌شنویم...؛ اما مرگ را، نه می‌توان درمان و نه کنترل کرد؛ خیره‌ شدن به پرده ی نمایش در آن بالا، مانع از افتادنش نمی‌شود؛ فکرکردنِ مدام به مرگ، به امیدِ دفع خطر آن، همچون کار آدم‌های وسواسی است، که مدام دست‌های خویش را می‌شویند؛ آنها هماره احساس می‌کنند، کثیف و ناپاک هستند، و امیدوارند که شستن، و آب‌ کشیدنِ کافی، تهدید آلودگی را، برطرف کند؛ اما میکروب هم، همانند مرگ، همیشه با ما هست؛ هیچ مناسک، و آدابی نیست، که تهدیدِ آنها را ساماندهی، یا چیزیکه به ما این آرامش را بدهد که فاصله‌ ای بین بودن ما، و آنها وجود دارد.»‏‏؛ پایان نقل

تاریخ بهنگام رسانی 06/04/1399هجری خورشیدی؛ ا. شربیانی ...more

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Mar 28, 2018 Goatboy rated it liked it

I'll be honest, I picked up and started reading Todd May's "Death" because it was mentioned on "The Good Place." And when in the first few pages May states that "Death is the most important fact about us" I was intrigued and excited. Thinking about death, and how it affects our lives, has been an ongoing preoccupation of mine. I wanted so much from this short book yet ultimately found myself disappointed by it. And that disappointment occurred even though I agree with most of May's main points.

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Jan 26, 2019 Florencia marked it as to-read

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Chidi: He's having an existential crisis. It's a sort of anguish people go through when they contemplate the silent indifference of our empty universe. Look, the good news is, if he can work through this, it's the first step towards understanding human ethics.

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Chidi: Well, now that you've become acquainted with existential crises, I thought we could read "Death" by philosopher Todd May.

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Jul 30, 2012 Doreen rated it really liked it

An accessible set of philosophical reflections on the meaning of death and whether or not it would be preferable to be immortal - with all the unforeseen and unthought-through consequences that would attend that state. His contention is that the contingency that in some way undermines the meaning of our lives since there is no right time to die if we remain engaged with projects of any sort also gives these same projects an urgency and vitality they would lack if we were immortal and could alway ...more

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Jan 20, 2018 Megan rated it really liked it

Recommended to Megan by: The Good Place

Shelves: philosophy, existentialism

The first chapter is a lot of stage-setting that mostly recaps background of existential thought. It can be summed up in like one or two really iconic sentences from Camus or Sartre, but I suppose for the layperson who has never read either (and probably never will) it's a good read. It's the best part of the book in my opinion because the arguments that follow mostly rehash statements made and questions posed here but never resolve or answer them.

The second part is a deep dive into a contrapos The first chapter is a lot of stage-setting that mostly recaps background of existential thought. It can be summed up in like one or two really iconic sentences from Camus or Sartre, but I suppose for the layperson who has never read either (and probably never will) it's a good read. It's the best part of the book in my opinion because the arguments that follow mostly rehash statements made and questions posed here but never resolve or answer them.

The second part is a deep dive into a contrapositive argument, considering immortality (or at least, the ways in which we can "not confront death" by eliminating it and what that would mean). There are some real missed opportunities here to discuss popular culture takes on this; in particular, he really glosses over the idea that there could be a "right time to die" by not considering an option where you could be immortal until you chose not to be any longer and that choosing to die when you feel ready, while never fearing any possibility of death before, is at least a philosophical option we could posit. The second part definitely makes you realize that while easy to read for a non-academic, this book is written by an academic philosopher. He really follows each thought to a logical conclusion. May is very good at keeping threads tightly woven throughout the book which I appreciate.

The third part of the book rehashes much of what was in parts one and two. Again, there were moments on page 90 or 100 I thought "This is a concept it's taken 100 pages to get to that's on like page 2 of The Myth of Sisyphus or page 5 of Being and Nothingness" but, again, not everyone is going to read those works. Maybe my expectations were high. This never really moves beyond existentialism or Camus's sort of absurdist existentialism; neither does it totally confront nihilism. We sort of leave things with a "just TRY" idea of living in the present with a certain amount of mindfulness (he doensn't explicity address any concepts of this mindfulness falling into neuroticism or nihilism though) while also holding a hope for the future, even while accepting the absurdity and possibility of loss.

Another thing I wish were addressed more is that all of the concepts of how to look at death are from a very subjective and singular mind-frame. How to consider your OWN death. Very little is said about the connection between self and those others that one affects in life and how those threads are woven together. It could have come up naturally when talking about his concepts of projects or engagements; specifically at one point he mentions something like there are no consequences to choosing the right time to die if you're lucky enough to do so, which really ignores that presumably those left behind would be affected as well by your death.

I enjoyed reading about certain philosophers that I haven't delved into, especially ancient Greeks and Romans. Overall the book was engaging and accessible. It's a great read for anyone (which I think sadly is most people) who have never really considered ANY of these concepts. Unfortunately, it doesn't leave them with much to work with once they do. Even without getting prescriptive I wish maybe concepts like bad faith would have been addressed more; otherwise there's no convincing reason given for anyone to bother addressing concepts like "How should I think about death, and thus my life?" and I feel that encouraging self-examination on this (which leads to self-examination on other important concepts like "How should I treat other people?") should be at least a takeaway from reading this. Otherwise, the audience is largely people (like me) who already have considered these concepts in depth, and from better and more original sources, or people who maybe are being forced to read this and maybe won't get much out of it, and will forget it after they are done. Addressing more the ideas of "what happens when I remain blithely oblivious" could leave more of a mark on readers and make this useful and memorable to more audiences. ...more

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Mar 25, 2018 Scott rated it really liked it

Small, but well-organized, lucid, and concrete. I would read a few pages every evening, then think about what I had read the next day.

I have two problems with his arguments, one minor, one major.

The minor disagreement I have is the same one others have expressed: there's no reason to think that being immortal would make you care less for the suffering and well-being of others, regardless of whether they were also immortal or not. Prometheus is condemned to have his liver eaten by an eagle every Small, but well-organized, lucid, and concrete. I would read a few pages every evening, then think about what I had read the next day.

I have two problems with his arguments, one minor, one major.

The minor disagreement I have is the same one others have expressed: there's no reason to think that being immortal would make you care less for the suffering and well-being of others, regardless of whether they were also immortal or not. Prometheus is condemned to have his liver eaten by an eagle every day for the rest of eternity, Sisyphus is condemned to push a big rock up a hill, but never make it to the top, for the rest of eternity. I feel bad for both of them, and would do something to alleviate their suffering if I could (the fact that they are immortal only makes their suffering worse, not better). But that's a small matter, one that does not affect the overall point of his arguments.

The major disagreement I have is with his characterization of meaning, upon which his whole argument rests. His core thesis is that death both gives meaning to life, insofar as it put limits on our experience, making it, like anything else that is scarce and evanescent, more valuable; and that it also takes meaning away, insofar as all our projects, plans, activities come to naught, are not given time or opportunity to become whole and fulfilled: they simply stop when we die (his argument is more nuanced than that, but that's the essential gist of it). He concludes that our attitude towards death needs to hold these two contradictions in tension, living as if we are going to die tomorrow (carpe diem, being in the present moment), but also as if we won't die tomorrow (engaged and invested in our ongoing projects), aware of both possibilities and at peace with them.

His conclusion is fine, as far as it goes, but the foundation he rests his conclusion on is flawed: he assumes meaning is something that is constrained by time, that eternity renders all experience meaningless (everything is repeated into eternity, eventually wears itself out into mere noise), but that evanescence also renders life meaningless (since everything created, experienced during a life is interrupted mid-stream then eventually disappears without a trace).

But if you see meaningfulness as something that is immanent in an experience or object, meaningful at the moment it is experienced, what more do you need? Whether it lasts forever or disappears tomorrow is irrelevant, it's the experience of meaning that counts (and, in fact, may be all that meaning is). Here's a passage I read recently that expresses that line of thought:

On a recent retreat, I was beside a river early one morning and a rower passed. I watched the boat slip by and enjoyed the beauty in a radically new way. The moment was sufficient; there was nothing I wanted to add or take away—no thought of how I wanted to do this every day, or how I wanted to learn to row, or how I wished I was in the boat. Nothing but the pleasure of witnessing it.

Dying in the middle of that moment, dying tomorrow, or never dying, does nothing to change the meaningfulness of that experienced moment. Camus makes this argument in The Myth of Sisyphus: that meaningfulness in life is nothing more or less than meaning you invest in a moment as you experience it, and that is enough. Sisyphus cheats his punishment, and like Borges's immortals, can contentedly pass the time for eternity in contemplation of the meaning of the moments that make it up.

If May had paid more attention to Camus, his argument might have been stronger, and may have led him to the same conclusion by a more direct, convincing route.

It's a good book, one that is deceptively simple and thought-provoking. ...more

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Jun 16, 2020 Kyle van Oosterum rated it really liked it

An interesting look at perhaps the most important fact about ourselves, i.e.: our death. Drawing on various sources - Heidegger, Aurelius, Lucretius, Borges and some forms of religious thought - May arrives at the familiar conclusion that while death is some form of evil, immortality would likely not be a good either (this all assumes that you don’t survive your death).

For my part, what I learnt was that the source of my worries about death are inevitably influenced by the way I perceive death, An interesting look at perhaps the most important fact about ourselves, i.e.: our death. Drawing on various sources - Heidegger, Aurelius, Lucretius, Borges and some forms of religious thought - May arrives at the familiar conclusion that while death is some form of evil, immortality would likely not be a good either (this all assumes that you don’t survive your death).

For my part, what I learnt was that the source of my worries about death are inevitably influenced by the way I perceive death, especially as my worldview suggests that I will likely not survive my own death. With that in mind, I drew two crucial conclusions from this book that serve as my consolations for my worries about death. First, I cannot rationalize, ignore, outmaneuver my death and any attempt to do so will hurt in me some way. What I learnt was that the only reason I try to do these things is because I’m so attached to my own life, and part of being attached to any aspect of your life (including your life itself) is that you will suffer if you remain so stubbornly attached. While this is a human, all too human tendency, that is not to say we can’t critically examine it and try to learn how to think about this unchangeable situation.

Second, I would do better to see my life not so much as my own but as part of a cosmic process that has unfolded before me and will continue to do so after I die. The Taoist idea that May draws from urges you to see your own life as a wave in the sea of being. This type of view necessarily presupposes that there is no such thing as a “distinct self; only a temporary fold of the cosmos that one calls oneself.” However starkly that contrasts with most people’s view of themselves, I find something very illuminating in this perception of death, noting that my worries about it are rooted in my wanting to stubbornly cling to it as much as possible.

I recommend reading this book if you’re curious about one of the most important facts about your life and how you might think about it. ...more

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Feb 07, 2014 Brett Welch rated it it was amazing

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Finding Meaning in Life by pondering Death

This book is a deep and careful meditation on how the fragility of life affects us. What makes this book unique, is that it takes ideas from philosophy (such as Martin Heidegger, Thomas Nagel, and Lucretius) and from religion (such as Christianity, Buddhism, and Taoism), and interweaves them in meaningful ways that anyone can understand and pull meaning from. What May does in this book is present a wonderful - and sometimes personal - journey through som ...more

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Dec 23, 2009 Bradley rated it really liked it

Taoism - we are waves cresting out upon the ocean. When we die we return back to the water. Our self is an illusion, only to return back to the source of all life upon death. No judgments, only the differential movements of already existing energies.... yes. I agree.

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Apr 14, 2020 Dhivya rated it it was amazing

Shelves: non-fiction, philosophy

Death is inevitable, uncertain, arbitrary, and its occurrence lends no special meaning to the life that precedes it. Can we then say that death is meaningless? What of the life that precedes it? Does death add to or take away from the meaning of life? Would immortality or the cure to death solve the problems that death presents? These are some of questions the book ponders on.

Todd May has drawn on works from many religions and philosophers to present a compelling and thought-provoking account o ...more

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Jul 08, 2020 Justus rated it did not like it

I was not super impressed with May's A Significant Life: Human Meaning in a Silent Universe and I was even more disappointed with this one. He largely rehashes the same exact arguments. This is disappointing for two reasons. One, why bother with two books that cover such similar ground? Two, the arguments are so weak with so many (to me) obvious holes...how was there no improvement in the argument or defense of those holes in the several years between the two books?

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Aug 04, 2020 Raehoon rated it really liked it

This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers. To view it, click here. I picked up this book after I learned that Todd May was one of the philosophers that contributed to The Good Place. When I finished both the book and the show, I could spot his influence here and there.

This essay reads like a speculative journey with the author to answer questions about what death means to our lives. I was not used to reading philosophy books, so it felt dry and repetitive at times in emphasizing and defining nuanced distinctions. However, I got used to it by the end.

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Jan 12, 2019 Ryan Mishap rated it liked it

Shelves: philosophy, harbinger-of-doom

The first book I've read that was recommended by a television sitcom (The Good Place), I didn't get much out of it. Part 1 explores the inevitability of death as the most important fact about our lives. Part 2 discusses the limits of immortality and Part 3 examines how to live within the fragility of life with an awareness of death. ...more

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Aug 18, 2018 Paul rated it liked it

The discussion of immortality in chapter two is definitely worthwhile, the rest not so much.

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Dec 14, 2018 Karen marked it as to-read

From The Good Place youtube video

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Sep 18, 2018 Sarah marked it as to-read

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S2:E4

The author is a philosophy advisor for the show, and this book was a big influence on creator Mike Schur.

https://www.nbc.com/the-good-place/ex... ...more

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Oct 31, 2018 Kevin rated it really liked it

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It is refreshing to hear death described in such a matter of fact way:

- Death is the end
- Death is not a part of life or a fulfilment or a goal. It's simply a stoppage.
- Death is inevitable (everyone dies)
- Death is uncertain (we don't know when we are going to die).

Chapter 1 delves into each of these ideas at length (at great length). They should teach this in schools. It's remarkable that they don't.

On the first idea (that death is the end), the author surveys the many ways that religions try ...more

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Jun 23, 2020 Enzo rated it really liked it

I had, up until this book, regarded death as a topic to be largely avoided. That is, I acknowledged that it was an immutable part of life but didn't see many benefits to thinking about it. The exception to this was the odd quote about 'having only so many days left to live' and 'seizing every day as if it were your last' or some such.

This book has provided me with not only a reason to think about my death, but also a framework within which to do it.

Book review begins here:
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May 01, 2020 Abdullah Shams rated it really liked it

Nicely put.

Three sections, beautifully arranged.

My fear of death is something not yet concrable by my imagination, even though it is put forward by my imagination. I fear of not able to imagine and not able to see the last thing and the last thought(more so about the last thought) that would exist for sure of which I will be certain about beyond any doubt. I fear of an incomprehensible last thought that is unfinished and not reflected upon. I fear of not locking the door on curtanity before I c ...more

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Apr 25, 2020 Brian rated it liked it

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Feel like this book could have half of its content cut down and it will still be the decent read it is, perhaps even better. A lot of it's just repeating previously discussed points, which one can argue is for ensuring clarity and retention and is such the nature of philosophizing, but it ends up feeling a lot like meandering and unnecessary content. However, for what it attempts to do--to wax poetic about death and how we can better live our lives--it's a good conversation starter. You'll find ...more

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Aug 13, 2018 Martin rated it it was amazing · review of another edition

The first book I've actually read about death and I found it truly amazing. Through this book you are presented with the sadness but also with the beauty and necessity of death. This books is split in a few parts with a focus on a specific point, whereas my favourite parts were about how everything would be if we were to be immortal and the last part where he talks about living with death despite it's constant presence in our life. As I said, it is sad and yet it is beautiful. I highly suggest t ...more

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Dec 01, 2019 Kryštof Selucký rated it it was amazing

Shelves: non-fiction, non-fiction-favorite, philosophy, death

“Death is the ultimate source of both the tragedy and the beauty of a human life. Moreover, death’s tragedy is the source of life’s beauty and vice versa.”

What is death? Is it good or bad? How does it relate to life? And should we want to be immortal? May offers a philosophical discussion of death that is thought-provoking, thorough, non-preachy, gentle and uncompromising. And what's more, it reads like a Stephen King's novel.

As far as 100-page-long philosophy books go, this is one of the best o ...more

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Dec 29, 2019 Will E rated it really liked it

As someone who has thought a lot about death (who hasn't?), I found some of this not particularly revalatory. I think we know it as humans somewhat intuitively. But the book articulates its point in such an organized, straightforward way that I certainly feel I left it having learned something. If nothing else, a certain clarity of thought that will help face these issues with slightly less despair (hopefully!!!). Maybe I'll read more philosophy???

On a side note, it makes a lot of sense Chidi w ...more

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Jan 12, 2019 Cary Trusty rated it it was amazing

One of my biggest anxieties in life has the emptiness that comes with death. Not knowing what it's like to feel absolute blankness. I heard the book mentioned in an episode of The Good Place and once I looked it up, I was thrilled. The book gave me a lot to think about and will likely go over it a few more times. Thanks for the great read! ...more

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Jan 05, 2019 Samantha Evans rated it really liked it

An interesting discussion on how death shapes (or doesn’t shape) life and how to live within the knowledge that our lives will come to an end (usually in an unexpected way). May addresses death both with and without religious influence and ideas of afterlife.

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Aug 18, 2019 Jm rated it really liked it

Read it because of The Good Place.

It was OK, maybe a bit repetitive. Concept is death gives life meaning. Anything in an immortal life would have no meaning because you have forever to change what you've done. Basically a simple idea explained from a view different angles.

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May 11, 2020 Red rated it really liked it

This book is amazing, it portrays the philosophical insights of Heidegger and other philosphers while the author is recollecting a near death experience. It combines everyday experience and confrontations with death with scientific discourses and makes it thus a really great read!

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Jun 06, 2020 Kathryn rated it really liked it

"the task for us, for each of us in the face of each of our deaths, is to live towards our end and with our end in a way, or in several ways, that casts a light within that darkness that ultimately engulfs us" ...more

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Dec 29, 2017 Georgina Lara rated it really liked it · review of another edition

This was a very important book for me to read. There are no conclusions here that you haven't heard before but it's more about the process of finding (and internalizing) those conclusions. ...more

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Oct 27, 2018 Wenshuai Hou rated it it was ok

The first chapter is good and promising, because it’s mostly recounts of Heidegger.
Goes downhill when he starts to argue immortality is an evil.
Ends with repetitive chicken soup.

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Todd has been teaching at Clemson for nearly thirty years. For many of those years his area of specialization in philosophy was recent French thought, especially that of Michel Foucault and Gilles Deleuze. More recently he has turned his attention to broader life concerns: meaning in life, coping with suffering, acting with moral decency, and so on. He is the author of sixteen books of philosophy. ...more

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