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«Le motif secret de nos actes, et j'entends : des plus décisifs, nous échappe ; et non seulement dans le souvenir que nous en gardons, mais bien au moment même. Sur le seuil de ce que l'on appelle : péché, hésitais-je encore ? Non ; j'eusse été trop déçu si l'aventure eût dû se terminer par le triomphe de ma vertu - que déjà j'avais prise en dédain, en horreur. Non ; c'est ...more
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Published (first published 1920)
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Ahmad Sharabiani
Si le Grain ne Meurt = If it Die..., André Gide
تاریخ نخستین خوانش: بیست و سوم ماه آگوست سال 1994 میلادی
عنوان: اگر دانه نمیرد؛ نویسنده: آندره ژید؛ مترجم: همایون نوراحمر؛ تهران، نیلوفر، 1372؛ در 278 ص؛ شابک: 9644480120؛ چاپ دوم 1382؛ چاپ سوم 1386؛ موضوع: نویسندگان فرانسه قرن 20 م
اتوبیوگرافی نویسنده، آندره ژید در این کتاب واقعیات زندگی خود را بی پرده بیان کرده است. ا. شربیانی
Apr 17, 2011 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Gideiana & the Money Shot : 1947 Nobel winner Gide, after recalling childhood, schooldays and aesthetic growth among friends Pierre Louys and Mallarme, delivers. "My joy was unbounded...I cannot imagine it greater, even if love had been added." Never confuse, as do many, desire with love. That little Arab boy left him in a state of "passionate jubilation."

Published in 1920, two decades after "The Immoralist," Gide offers his back-story. Gide, a founder in 1909 of the influential Le Nouvel Revue
Jan 15, 2008 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: read-non_fiction
I find the whole genre of biography and autobiography fairly boring, but this was kinda fun. The first half was pretty dry, but really established Gide's character as a child (dreamer). The second half was a lot more interesting. I knew from checking wikipedia (after infering it from my read of the Immoralist) that Gide was into boys, but it's quite another thing to read about him picking them up with Oscar Wilde.
S. Hm
Jan 26, 2014 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: biography
در واقع کتاب اتوبیوگرافی ست اما نه یک اتوبیوگرافی کامل. ژید مقطعی از زندگی خودش رو به صورت وقایعی که بعضا ترتیب وقوع اونها رعایت نشده نشون داده که این برای من کسل کننده بود انقدر که فکر میکردم اگه در مورد زندگی آنا خدمتکارشون مطلبی میخوندم برام جذاب تر بود.
Jun 29, 2007 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
The events described wouldn't be nearly as interesting if written by a mediocre writer, but gide isn't that. He goes about his story, descibing his life by impression and memories, in no particular order other than how important they were to him at the time. It reads beautifully. It's worth reading steadily through, if you want the full impression. Otherwise, it's easy to lose track of what he's been expanding on. ...more
Rachael Stephen
Aug 20, 2011 rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
Possibly the most boring and self indulgent thing I've ever read. And I read the whole damn thing as well. The bits about botany are cool, and some of the stuff in Africa, but apart from that...bleuch. ...more
Aveugle Vogel
"a wideish moat of some little depth" ...more
Aug 18, 2018 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
Aug 25, 2018 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
This book got extremely interesting towards the end. I only wish it would have been a bit sooner.
Carlos Mock
Apr 29, 2021 rated it did not like it  ·  review of another edition
If it Die... by André Gide Translated from French to English by Dorothy Bussy

"Gide was born in Paris on 22 November 1869, into a middle-class Protestant family. His father was a Paris University professor of law who died in 1880, Jean-Paul Guillaume Gide, and his mother was Juliette Maria Rondeaux. His uncle was the political economist Charles Gide. His paternal family traced its roots back to Italy, with his ancestors, the Guidos, moving to France and other western and northern European countri
Narjes Seghatoleslam
آنها بودند که سبب شدند تا حقیقت این حرف نیچه را حس کنم: " هر هنرمندی نه تنها هوش خود را، بلکه هوش دوستانش را نیز در اختیار دارد."
" پیوسته باید این امکان وجود داشته باشد که کار یک مولف را در یک فرمول ساده خلاصه کرد. هر چه آسانتر این کار انجام گیرد، احتمالا بیشتر باقی خواهد ماند. آنچه را نتوان در یک فرمول جای داد، محکوم به نابودی است".
" خوب، پس فرمول چیست؟ زود باشید! همه چیز بستگی به آن دارد."
با صدایی ناشی از عصبانیت شدید، با لکنت گفتم:
" ما همه باید نقشمان را بازی کنیم."
اگر توضیحی درباره ی فرمولم
Cyrille Honoré
May 01, 2020 rated it did not like it
Je ne dirais pas que j’ai lu tout Gide mais presque une dizaine de ses œuvres. J’ai adoré les Faux-monnayeurs, trouvé du génie dans Paludes, de la clairvoyance dans Retour de l’URSS. Mais d’autres choses me déplaisaient qui se révèlent parfaitement dans ce livre - son autobiographie. Et dans le cas d’une autobiographie, il est naturellement impossible de séparer l’œuvre de l’auteur.
La première partie est une suite d’anecdotes terriblement ennuyeuses. Les problèmes d’un petit bourgeois qui s’inve
Monty Milne
Dec 16, 2018 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
I enjoyed this a great deal, even though a lot of it was already familiar to me from having read both Gide’s Journals and the excellent biography by Alan Sheridan. Gide was, like most of us, morally flawed, and it is hard to understand or forgive what to me is the most troubling of his moral failings – his marriage – which he knew would cause deep unhappiness to himself and his family as well as his wife. But, from a literary point of view, this is not as important as the thought that without hi ...more
Sep 22, 2019 rated it it was amazing  ·  review of another edition
J'ai ADORÉ. Tour d'abord, André Gide est un de mes auteurs préférés donc pas sûr que je sois objective. Mais il a été prix nobel de la littérature donc c'est qu'il écrit vraiment bien.

Cette autobiographie m'a permis d'en savoir un peu plus sur lui. Il a pu se livrer avec sincérité, parler de son homosexualité, de choses encore taboues à l'époque. J'avais l'impression de le retrouver ici sans filtre.
J'ai bien aimé retrouver des personnages connus (notamment Oscar Wilde). Et plein d'autres choses
Jul 26, 2020 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Interesting insight into the man, his childhood, his anxieties, and the discovery of his homosexuality. Surprisingly funny, especially on family and friends. Also convoluted and allusive, as is to be expected of a book written around 1919 dealing with fairly taboo subjects.
Jack Lu
Feb 20, 2018 rated it liked it
read the Chinese translation, 如果种子不死,I felt some similar feelings while young.
Apr 08, 2021 rated it did not like it
Lu et vu en cours, mais je n'ai pas fini de le lire (et je ne voyais pas l'intérêt de le lire) ...more
Ruth Forbes
Nov 21, 2017 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: memoirs
Very well written with touches of humour.
Sep 02, 2009 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Rating this book with some number of stars is nonsensical- it is not a matter of stars.

Many of the events and ideas expressed here are essentially the same as those in The Immoralist. But as a memoir, it contains more historically-interesting details. There is a modern trend of writing histories of ordinary people, as opposed to the histories of kings and presidents. I think that's a great idea, and now realize that some of the same information (and also a source for such histories) is to be fo
Aug 25, 2016 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Voor slechts 7,50 euro heb ik dit boek bij de opheffingsuitverkoop bij de Slegte in Utrecht gekocht. Een geslaagde koop, want het lezen heeft zeker het financiële offer gecompenseerd. Gide probeert in het boek openhartig te vertellen over zijn jeugd en zijn seksuele ontwaken. Het is een moeilijke onderneming omdat je de mensen in je omgeving niet wil kwetsen. Dat zijn voor Gide vooral zijn moeder en zijn vrouw. Daarom is hij in de eerste helft van het boek nogal terughoudend. Dat verandert in de ...more
May 18, 2009 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: 2010
Confieso que desde que un alumno de Erasmus robó este libro de la biblioteca de la universidad de Alicante, tenía ganas de estrujarlo entre mis manos. Y aunque no me ha decepcionado, la espera no es que haya valido demasiado la pena. André Gide es un narrador mesurado y a quien no le preocupa caer simpático, cosa que se agradece, pero tiene, a mi parecer, la distorsionada idea de que a sus lectores les interesa tanto su infancia como a él. Pues no, hijo mío. Hay anécdotas casi divertidas, otras ...more
Sep 05, 2014 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
“No busco la complicación; está en mi. Me traiciona todo gesto en el que no reconozco todas mis contradicciones.” Si la semilla no muere es un texto autobiográfico en donde Gide hace una reflexión exhaustiva sobre su infancia, adolescencia y adultez temprana, con un mirada a veces indulgente, a veces severa, el texto se convierte en una ventana a través de la cual es posible echar un vistazo a una vida marcada por una educación puritana sumamente conservadora en el París de finales del siglo XIX ...more
Nov 21, 2010 rated it liked it  ·  review of another edition
Shelves: autobiography
Andre Gide is an author’s author. Winner of the 1947 Nobel Prize in Literature, and a favourite of notable scribes like Yukio Mishima and Donald Richie, Gide is one of the fathers of the modern confessional autobiography, but outside of the academy and academia, this doesn't make him an interesting read.

If It Die is concerned to the point of myopia with the triviality of life. Fleeting thoughts, grasped at impressions, the flotsam and jetsam of waking consciousness, If It Die is akin to reading
Armagan (they-them)
Feb 12, 2015 rated it really liked it
I have a fondness for autobiographies. Gide's autobiography is like very slow motion in the first parts that he recalls his "civilized" family environment. While describing his music tutors, the school system, mother-son-god tension... the book seemed "OK! ...but not a great one".

Later on, after the trip to Africa (still not sure if it was Africa but it was like "OK the author is from the occident, and the rest is from the rest"), as Gide (the character) starts to face with his experiences and
Mike Arrr
this is at the bottom of the pile of what Gide published. If it Die… has subjects and instances already covered in his major works, like Wilde, Immortalist and the journals. it took two attempts but i finished it. read the autobiography if you ran out of Gide material. but Gide does have good books concerning autobiographical instances. his Congo travels and book concerning his wife, i cannot recall the title, are worth reading. not this book though.
Tom Ireland
Dec 14, 2010 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
If It Die is well worth a read. If you happen across it, do not hesitate to pick it up. The prose is flowing and elegant and Gide plays lightly with language.

Full review HERE.
Oskars Kaulēns
Aug 17, 2014 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
lieliska autobiogrāfija.
Sep 09, 2015 rated it really liked it  ·  review of another edition
Andre Gide'i iç dünyasını ortaya saçan bir kitap. Oscar Wilde'la olan ahbaplığı da bonus. ...more
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